|
|
Post by gascoach on Apr 20, 2021 15:48:22 GMT
I have some experience working within a pro club and my understanding of the role that Tommy does on the transfer front would be as follows.
- Suggest a list of targets based on a criteria set by the manager.
- Work with the manager to then land their chosen targets.
My understanding would be the manager decides on the players and TW main role would be around the complexities of contract negotiation to bring said chosen player in.
I'm not saying he is blameless, he is certainly "part" of the process but some of the comments from a wide spectrum of people on social media and this forum solely blame him. Just feel he is being made a bit of target for blame without a second thought that all he does is bring the chosen players in.
To try and add some evidence. Most of signings under BG were younger players, which would lean towards a BG style recruitment. Yet the two under PT were both senior players and very much a PT type signing.
Added to that, I feel there is a lot of captain hindsight's that blame the recruitment (whoever it was), yet I remember and was one of them that felt it was one of the best squads assembled, we were lauding the speed of signings and getting our business done early.
|
|
|
|
Post by LJG on Apr 20, 2021 15:50:07 GMT
Because everything is everyone else's fault apart from r Joey?
|
|
|
|
Post by alanrg on Apr 20, 2021 15:53:19 GMT
You r having a laugh the man who came out with the one liner after the Portsmouth win saying we have enough in the building the quicker he goes the better
|
|
|
|
Post by LJG on Apr 20, 2021 15:55:26 GMT
Mods lets delete this embarrassing thread please. The Widdrington haters are just going to come on here moaning about Widdrington because they have a personal grudge against him.
|
|
|
|
Post by alanrg on Apr 20, 2021 15:57:12 GMT
The truth always hurts
|
|
|
|
Post by bridgwatergas on Apr 20, 2021 15:58:01 GMT
Mods lets delete this embarrassing thread please. The Widdrington haters are just going to come on here moaning about Widdrington because they have a personal grudge against him. A bit like the Barton haters jumping on threads. |
|
|
|
Post by bovrilsorters on Apr 20, 2021 15:58:54 GMT
I have some experience working within a pro club and my understanding of the role that Tommy does on the transfer front would be as follows. - Suggest a list of targets based on a criteria set by the manager. - Work with the manager to then land their chosen targets. My understanding would be the manager decides on the players and TW main role would be around the complexities of contract negotiation to bring said chosen player in. I'm not saying he is blameless, he is certainly "part" of the process but some of the comments from a wide spectrum of people on social media and this forum solely blame him. Just feel he is being made a bit of target for blame without a second thought that all he does is bring the chosen players in. To try and add some evidence. Most of signings under BG were younger players, which would lean towards a BG style recruitment. Yet the two under PT were both senior players and very much a PT type signing. Added to that, I feel there is a lot of captain hindsight's that blame the recruitment (whoever it was), yet I remember and was one of them that felt it was one of the best squads assembled, we were lauding the speed of signings and getting our business done early. I think that whereas people were excited about the signings assembled over the summer, this was from a very different perspective, looking in from the outside. The average fan looks at the success of teams players have featured in, transfer fees incurred in the past and maybe performances against rovers or the odd game on TV they have seen. They probably have a good idea of the players greatest strengths, but don't have the full view of them as a player. It is ultimately a very limited view of the player and not particularly well informed. My criticism of Tommy (and the recruitment process in general, so including those who assisted him) is that there is a professional duty of care within role to do due diligence on players. Player recruitment is a sophisticated process and clearly the players recruited have not been up to scratch. In hindsight, having watched the team this year (putting aside the clear lack of strikers in the squad) the players recruited don't appear to have the right mentality or character. We have built a squad with no leaders. I believe that Tommy and the recruitment team should have had the foresight to identify these issues before recruiting based on the resources available within a professional club. The expectation on someone in his role is to really do his homework on players to understand about the player and the person. Either this hasn't happened or he has done a poor job of it, either way it's not a great endorsement of his abilities in role.... |
|
|
|
Post by warehamgas on Apr 20, 2021 16:34:57 GMT
You r having a laugh the man who came out with the one liner after the Portsmouth win saying we have enough in the building the quicker he goes the better Well, tbf, after the Pompey match I guess Ayunga looked like he had plenty. He just hasn’t shown it since. Istr lots of us were pleased at that moment. UTG! |
|
|
|
Post by gregsy on Apr 20, 2021 16:50:56 GMT
I reckon Tommy could cook a better bolognaise than joey and he wouldn't even need Gordon Ramsey there to check on the kitchen....
|
|
|
|
Post by Topper Gas on Apr 20, 2021 16:56:12 GMT
You r having a laugh the man who came out with the one liner after the Portsmouth win saying we have enough in the building the quicker he goes the better Possibly we did at that time but since then we've lost Ehmer, Grant, Rodman and Nicholson plus Hanlan has been carrying an injury. I agree with the OP when as a HoR ever been blamed for our relegation in the past? If posters want to blame anyone surely if Wael for appointing Garner and then not sacking him last summer? |
|
|
|
Post by Jomo on Apr 20, 2021 17:25:48 GMT
Mods lets delete this embarrassing thread please. The Widdrington haters are just going to come on here moaning about Widdrington because they have a personal grudge against him. A bit like the Barton haters jumping on threads. Woosh? |
|
|
|
Post by Big Jock on Apr 20, 2021 17:33:38 GMT
I reckon Tommy could cook a better bolognaise than joey and he wouldn't even need Gordon Ramsey there to check on the kitchen....  |
|
|
|
Post by gasandelectricity on Apr 20, 2021 17:38:49 GMT
Widdrington is complicit in the imbalance of the squad which will inevitably lead to relegation.
Why didn’t he say to Ben no more left backs, no more midfielders, without outgoings?
By the time PT was here he was DOF. As a director why didn’t he intervene and demand we sign a striker?
A lot of the criticism of him comes from his belief that we had enough firepower to compete? If that’s true then that’s incompetence and he should GO
|
|
|
|
Post by CrispPusher on Apr 20, 2021 17:52:15 GMT
How many professional goals had Hanlan, Daly and Ayunga scored between them? 2 transfer windows and they were the best he could come up with.
That is why.
|
|
|
|
Post by carlts2020 on Apr 20, 2021 19:11:18 GMT
How many professional goals had Hanlan, Daly and Ayunga scored between them? 2 transfer windows and they were the best he could come up with. That is why. More excuses. John Akinde had 27 league goals prior to this season at Gillingham and Vadaine had 11! They have 25 goals this season for Gillingham! |
|
|
|
Post by carlts2020 on Apr 20, 2021 19:13:17 GMT
Before joining us JCH had 29 career league goals!
|
|
|
|
Post by Hugo the Elder on Apr 20, 2021 19:28:49 GMT
Mods lets delete this embarrassing thread please. The Widdrington haters are just going to come on here moaning about Widdrington because they have a personal grudge against him. Is it better to delete stuff and have people think someone is stupid or leave it here and let everyone know for sure? |
|
|
|
Post by Gassy on Apr 20, 2021 19:35:46 GMT
Mods lets delete this embarrassing thread please. The Widdrington haters are just going to come on here moaning about Widdrington because they have a personal grudge against him. Is it better to delete stuff and have people think someone is stupid or leave it here and let everyone know for sure? Should we just start deleting threads any time someone disagrees with the OP? 2nd time in a week the suggestion has been made... |
|
|
|
Post by glengas on Apr 20, 2021 19:42:49 GMT
I hope he leaves, preferably tonight. Maybe forgiven for a unbalanced summer transfer window, but January was unforgivable. Good riddance.
|
|
|
|
Post by Hugo the Elder on Apr 20, 2021 19:45:43 GMT
Is it better to delete stuff and have people think someone is stupid or leave it here and let everyone know for sure? Should we just start deleting threads any time someone disagrees with the OP? 2nd time in a week the suggestion has been made... If I delete it the other one then this will be the first time. Then you will need to delete your post saying its the second. It will be like Inception on here in no time. |
|
