Does TW deserve the stick?

I’m by no means defending him, I want to also make clear that he should be moved on.
Just raising the point that perhaps he hasn’t always been the sole reason for our failure. That actually he was scouting players and he was just being ignored

I would have thought Frost's definition of TW's role to be correct - to find the available players meeting the manager's requirements. As such responsibility must lie with the manager for signing the wrong /poor players,or signing no-one. If Frost (and I) are wrong, and TW signed players as he saw fit, I'm surprised any manager at our level accepted it.

But then again it's easy to make Paul Tisdale the fall guy when the bloke is no longer here.

It be interested to hear who TW presented to Tis in the Jan window as Willo played under Tis before and obvs the obsession with Stockley too makes me think that Tis wasn't that interested in TW's offerings. Joe Day (on paper) looked like a good signing but turned out to be about 50/50 imo.

Not sure how I feel about TW or his position. I did a bit of a recon on the signings the club made for 3 years before and 3 years while he was here and I guess it comes down to the manager at the time but a hell of a lot of the more recent ones have been injury prone... just a quick observation.

TW will always have the signing of JCH on his CV mind and that seems like it could well have generated the club around 2.5million (if sold in the summer) which will count for a hell of a lot. We haven't seen that amount of money for any players for well over 10 years.

Part of me thinks that JB using TW and his resources could be quite a decent partnership - both come from places where passion about their beloved football teams is rife so should understand what the fans need or come to expect.

I'm sure we'll get some more open letters soon and all will be revealed

It's a collective f*ck up of which TW is partly responsible. He will always get blame when he is the one scouting and providing the shortlists, but on paper they were ok and certainly not rock bottom of the table signings. It was a gamble recruiting mostly younger players under a young inexperienced manager that has ultimately failed spectacularly.

Everyone else on the board is partly responsible, as well as every manager for one reason or another. The hierarchy should have intervened in the summer when the 500th left back was identified and also in January when tbh any experienced striker of any age would have given us a better chance of survival.

We went down with a whimper and not one person can say it wasn't partly their fault.

I just hope lessons are learnt and they can sort the mess out before it gets any worse. Personally, I think they will.

True... forgot about that part

End of the day there’s only 2/3 people know what did or didn’t happen?
All we know as fans it was bleeding obvious we needed a striker in January.
And the club need to learn from this mistake quickly and not make same mistake again

Perhaps that was all included in TW's notes but BG decided they were the players he wanted as they fitted the wage structure?

At the end of the day it doesn't really matter if posters want TW sacked or not, Wael will can only make that decision, like with Barton I sense he'll give him the first half of next season to redeem himself.

So you believe Garner had zero input in signing any of his own players he just relied upon the players on TW's shortlist? If so, that begs the question why bother with a manager, just get the DoF to sign the players and appoint a Head Coach to coach them.