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Post by gashead1981 on May 11, 2021 17:29:42 GMT
If true that will upset a lot of fans . Agree. I wouldn’t be pleased about it. But then I don’t see him at work everyday and my memories of Mans are of a player, not a coach.
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Post by Topper Gas on May 11, 2021 17:30:33 GMT
Looked a very average player. Get rid if possible. Totally disagree. Had exceptional movement and positional awareness and started looking like he could finish too. Only reason whatsoever to consider releasing him IMO is his fitness. Certainly not his ability for me. Until he was injured yet again and he has never seemed the same since. It seems pointless keeping a player on the basis you hope he remains fit and finds the form he showed in one short spell in 18 months. Barton's making some positive decisions with regards to releasing players/coaches, let's just hope he's equally positive when it comes to recruiting their replacements.
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Post by rememberhalifax on May 11, 2021 17:44:01 GMT
Hartlepool gas who appeared yesterday now posting as deleted. I've got a feeling it's a prominent poster from the other forum, who departed there in a bit of a tis, then reappeared a few days later under a new name. Seems to adopt various personae. What ever he calls himself he is still an idiot posting such utter nonsense1
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Post by miltongas on May 11, 2021 17:49:17 GMT
I bloody hope Harries does. Only CB I want to see in August is our Alfie. I'm not sure one at the back is going to improve us tbh Not sure it would be much worse either after some of the displays we’ve seen.
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Post by eastgas on May 11, 2021 18:41:18 GMT
Did I miss a post on this thread? What about Lee mansel?
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Post by Hugh Jarsole on May 11, 2021 18:46:27 GMT
Martyn Starnes
you heard it here first
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Post by pucklegas on May 11, 2021 18:50:44 GMT
Martyn Starnes you heard it here first This is like guess who, what were the clues supports plymouth, ineffective and on a fair wedge! 😂
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Post by daniel300380 on May 11, 2021 18:51:11 GMT
So far Upson Andre Harries told he can leave James Daly told he can leave Tutonda told he can leave GK coach dispensed JVS told he can leave a large swathe of the medical / physio staff dispensed with the grim reaper walks the streets of N Bristol and looks remarkably like Joey Barton ..... Surprised if this is true. Daly is still 20 and still won’t count towards squad numbers next season, if the limit still applies. I know some others reported, the squad limit will still apply. So not sure why wouldn’t keep him for another year. Even if he’s kept as a squad player. As he will be on a low wage and won’t count anyway. We want to try and move on the other 2 that will count and don’t score.
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Post by yattongas on May 11, 2021 18:51:11 GMT
If true that will upset a lot of fans . Agree. I wouldn’t be pleased about it. But then I don’t see him at work everyday and my memories of Mans are of a player, not a coach. Agreed , no idea how good or bad he is as a youth coach but I would feel sorry for him on a personal level. That said , it’s a professional game and you’ve gotta deliver at all times . I’m NOT singling him out but feel the whole coaching team has had too many coasters who have not delivered.
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Post by warehamgas on May 11, 2021 19:04:45 GMT
Are Daly/Harries going? People acting like they are, but the reality is none of us will know until the retained list is published and even then Harries, Daly and others will be retained as they have more time left on their contracts unless they have a release clause. I agree. We have JB saying some pretty strange things about the players, raising expectations about who may /may not go yet other clubs have already set out their retained lists and clarified their lists. I guess it doesn’t really matter, being sure it will be sorted fairly soon but from what he was saying I was expecting it to be clearer, sooner. If players are on contract for another year then I suppose they just stay and pick up their wages hoping for a chance. Becomes a bit of a war of wills then between the manager and players. UTG!
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Post by playtowin on May 11, 2021 19:09:07 GMT
Are Daly/Harries going? People acting like they are, but the reality is none of us will know until the retained list is published and even then Harries, Daly and others will be retained as they have more time left on their contracts unless they have a release clause. I agree. We have JB saying some pretty strange things about the players, raising expectations about who may /may not go yet other clubs have already set out their retained lists and clarified their lists. I guess it doesn’t really matter, being sure it will be sorted fairly soon but from what he was saying I was expecting it to be clearer, sooner. If players are on contract for another year then I suppose they just stay and pick up their wages hoping for a chance. Becomes a bit of a war of wills then between the manager and players. UTG! The club should adopt Peterboroughs model and transfer list all players that have one year left on their contract.
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Post by gasandelectricity on May 11, 2021 19:12:39 GMT
I agree. We have JB saying some pretty strange things about the players, raising expectations about who may /may not go yet other clubs have already set out their retained lists and clarified their lists. I guess it doesn’t really matter, being sure it will be sorted fairly soon but from what he was saying I was expecting it to be clearer, sooner. If players are on contract for another year then I suppose they just stay and pick up their wages hoping for a chance. Becomes a bit of a war of wills then between the manager and players. UTG! The club should adopt Peterboroughs model and transfer list all players that have one year left on their contract. Or just transfer list anyone with a contract. That'll do.
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Post by warehamgas on May 11, 2021 19:14:32 GMT
Its strange that with 4 centre backs there are 9 possible combinations of a pairing, and for whatever reason none of them worked well, and you can't get to game number 46 not even knowing what the strongest pairing is! Very true. Not one of our managers has really known which 2 CHs were his best in a back 4 or which 3 in a back 3. Tis went for a back 4 early on but tbh I can’t remember which 2 he went for. The point is no one could decide on the best CHs all season and in the end all 4 had poor seasons. UTG!
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Post by Hugo the Elder on May 11, 2021 19:20:05 GMT
Agree. I wouldn’t be pleased about it. But then I don’t see him at work everyday and my memories of Mans are of a player, not a coach. Agreed , no idea how good or bad he is as a youth coach but I would feel sorry for him on a personal level. That said , it’s a professional game and you’ve gotta deliver at all times . I’m NOT singling him out but feel the whole coaching team has had too many coasters who have not delivered. At least they wont leave rings on the coffee table.
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Post by gulfofaden on May 11, 2021 19:26:22 GMT
I don’t think we’ve learned the lesson.
This lot got us relegated with probably the most abject performances I’ve seen since the Graydon era.
None of us know these players. JB has essentially said most of them aren’t good enough, aren’t professional, weren’t even fit and had an attitude problem.
We don’t what any of them train like.
I don’t think anyone is safe and I would be happy to see the back of all of them.
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Post by richard on May 11, 2021 19:31:15 GMT
I don’t think we’ve learned the lesson. This lot got us relegated with probably the most abject performances I’ve seen since the Graydon era. None of us know these players. JB has essentially said most of them aren’t good enough, aren’t professional, weren’t even fit and had an attitude problem. We don’t what any of them train like. I don’t think anyone is safe and I would be happy to see the back of all of them. Have we learned the lesson of allowing a rookie manager to completely clear out the club though? I have no axe to grind with Barton, and would probably have chosen to appoint him from the realistic options at the time, but this seems a huge amount of free reign to give to someone who is very inexperienced.
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Post by pirate on May 11, 2021 19:39:01 GMT
I don’t think we’ve learned the lesson. This lot got us relegated with probably the most abject performances I’ve seen since the Graydon era. None of us know these players. JB has essentially said most of them aren’t good enough, aren’t professional, weren’t even fit and had an attitude problem. We don’t what any of them train like. I don’t think anyone is safe and I would be happy to see the back of all of them. Have we learned the lesson of allowing a rookie manager to completely clear out the club though? I have no axe to grind with Barton, and would probably have chosen to appoint him from the realistic options at the time, but this seems a huge amount of free reign to give to someone who is very inexperienced. The manager took over a team at Fleetwood that finished 14th the previous season and improved on that in his first season having brought in 12 new players and getting rid of 14. The season after that they achieved a playoff place.
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Post by Topper Gas on May 11, 2021 19:46:45 GMT
I agree. We have JB saying some pretty strange things about the players, raising expectations about who may /may not go yet other clubs have already set out their retained lists and clarified their lists. I guess it doesn’t really matter, being sure it will be sorted fairly soon but from what he was saying I was expecting it to be clearer, sooner. If players are on contract for another year then I suppose they just stay and pick up their wages hoping for a chance. Becomes a bit of a war of wills then between the manager and players. UTG! The club should adopt Peterboroughs model and transfer list all players that have one year left on their contract. Isn't the difference Peterborough transfer list players who won't sign a new extended contract not players they want to move on? Probably only Nicholson, when he regains his fitness, falls under that category for us, I'd imagine transferring listing him will go down well this summer!
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Post by Deleted on May 11, 2021 19:48:45 GMT
I don’t think we’ve learned the lesson. This lot got us relegated with probably the most abject performances I’ve seen since the Graydon era. None of us know these players. JB has essentially said most of them aren’t good enough, aren’t professional, weren’t even fit and had an attitude problem. We don’t what any of them train like. I don’t think anyone is safe and I would be happy to see the back of all of them. Have we learned the lesson of allowing a rookie manager to completely clear out the club though? I have no axe to grind with Barton, and would probably have chosen to appoint him from the realistic options at the time, but this seems a huge amount of free reign to give to someone who is very inexperienced. DC did it when were relegated to the Conference. Hardly an experienced manager then.
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Post by richard on May 11, 2021 19:50:32 GMT
Have we learned the lesson of allowing a rookie manager to completely clear out the club though? I have no axe to grind with Barton, and would probably have chosen to appoint him from the realistic options at the time, but this seems a huge amount of free reign to give to someone who is very inexperienced. DC did it when were relegated to the Conference. Hardly an experienced manager then. DC didn't, to my recollection, get rid of several coaches including youth level coaches. Nor did DC try and revamp the medical department at the same time. It just feels a lot to do in one go.
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