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Post by warehamgas on May 14, 2021 13:48:01 GMT
I don’t agree with what JB has done calling out the previous management in the public domain as he has. However, part of me also says that I’d rather Tisdale come out and tell he wasn’t negligent and fought back in some way. He’s coming across as a bit of a wet wipe just like he was when he was a manager here. We often looked out fought and out thought and lacked gumption. Whatever you think, the fact we were so tamely relegated must mean that something was grossly wrong somewhere which went on under the watch of Garner and Tisdale. It’s an absolute mess. You’re right 1981, it is an absolute mess. But Tis won’t come out and do that. I suspect him and JB think pretty much the same about the squad, they just approached it in different ways. But, where I disagree, is where you say “something was grossly wrong somewhere......under Garner and Tisdale”. It was just as wrong under JB and got worse. The last 6/7 matches under JB were woeful and embarrassing with no fight and no pride and that’s down to the players and JB, not the previous two managers. After 55 years I can honestly say I don’t think I’ve ever seen a run of games as these last ones where we showed so little fight. In the end are just arguing about who was less sh**. No one comes out of this season with any credit, except perhaps the Community Trust for what they did in these times. UTG!
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Post by wilmslowgas on May 14, 2021 13:48:08 GMT
Barton's criticism of previous managers is classic deflection tactics. Every manager of struggling teams use such tactics to deflect from the poor results on the pitch. I remember Garner blaming the referee for every defeat. Another deflection tactic.
The major difference with Barton is that he uses more colourful language to blame others.
Let's face basic facts. He inherited a bunch of useless players with no opportunity to refresh the squad. He was unable to motivate the bunch of dead donkeys and we went down. Personally, I doubt anybody could have saved us. Not even DC or GC!
The real test will begin soon. Barton will have the opportunity to remodel the squad and acquire players that will respond to him. Then we will all see how good he really is....
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Post by oldie on May 14, 2021 14:04:11 GMT
Barton called this spot on challenges Tisdales lawyers and challenged again last week. Tisdale is right nda is with the club not Barton so Wael will have to cough up and Barton is laughing. Time to get behind him it’s his club and their dancing to his tune Thats laughable. Any employee that brings his/her employer into disrepute would normally be sacked for gross misconduct. Perhaps misconduct is the norm on the Wirral? Is Barton from there?
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Post by RD on May 14, 2021 14:17:22 GMT
Barton called this spot on challenges Tisdales lawyers and challenged again last week. Tisdale is right nda is with the club not Barton so Wael will have to cough up and Barton is laughing. Time to get behind him it’s his club and their dancing to his tune Thats laughable. Any employee that brings his/her employer into disrepute would normally be sacked for gross misconduct. Perhaps misconduct is the norm on the Wirral? Is Barton from there? I have a feeling this is our new goalkeeper coach (genuinely)...
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Post by oldie on May 14, 2021 14:28:54 GMT
Thats laughable. Any employee that brings his/her employer into disrepute would normally be sacked for gross misconduct. Perhaps misconduct is the norm on the Wirral? Is Barton from there? I have a feeling this is our new goalkeeper coach (genuinely)... Christ...Lets hope not🤮
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Post by wirralgas on May 14, 2021 14:31:48 GMT
Thats laughable. Any employee that brings his/her employer into disrepute would normally be sacked for gross misconduct. Perhaps misconduct is the norm on the Wirral? Is Barton from there? I have a feeling this is our new goalkeeper coach (genuinely)... Ha ha not me I’m a tough guy but never thrown a bottle or been charged with abh
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Post by kruger on May 14, 2021 14:39:03 GMT
Joey Barton's job as manager of this football club (or any other for that matter) is pretty much two-fold: 1) Pick up points 2) Act professionally and represent the club in the best possible light Contrary to popular belief it seems, there is nothing in the job spec to "say it as it is". Now, so far, he has failed spectacularly in both areas of his remit. Frankly, I'm amazed more (in fact the majority for that matter) aren't as utterly terrified as I am but the future with this man in charge. It may work out, don't get me wrong. But I'm astounded there are so many so confident it will work out successfully. Replace Barton with any other bog standard L1/L2 manager and I have no doubt the reaction would be completely different. He's getting an easy ride so far. BORING
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Post by RD on May 14, 2021 14:40:01 GMT
I have a feeling this is our new goalkeeper coach (genuinely)... Ha ha not me I’m a tough guy but never thrown a bottle or been charged with abh Ah okay - it was only because your first ever post was to pull up a thread over a year old on Warner
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Post by wirralgas on May 14, 2021 15:05:14 GMT
Ha ha not me I’m a tough guy but never thrown a bottle or been charged with abh Ah okay - it was only because your first ever post was to pull up a thread over a year old on Warner No worries I’m just a fan but I do think Warner will be very good Joey Barton needs people around him to change culture
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Post by wirralgas on May 14, 2021 15:21:45 GMT
Barton called this spot on challenges Tisdales lawyers and challenged again last week. Tisdale is right nda is with the club not Barton so Wael will have to cough up and Barton is laughing. Time to get behind him it’s his club and their dancing to his tune Thats laughable. Any employee that brings his/her employer into disrepute would normally be sacked for gross misconduct. Perhaps misconduct is the norm on the Wirral? Is Barton from there? No Wirral’s posh end I just mean he’s smart good pr calling out the lawyers when they can’t sue him. If Wael backing him then his choice he knows what he’s dealing with back him and he’ll deliver
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Post by Topper Gas on May 14, 2021 15:55:41 GMT
I hope we do well but it's embarrassing having Barton as boss at the moment. Let's hope he can prove a lot of people wrong and make a success of his managerial career and grow as a man. For me, fail here or make another big mistake and its over for him. Not sure any manager's career would be over just because they failed at Rovers, it's become a bit of an elephants graveyard as far as managers go. If PT was so annoyed by the comments why didn't he seek an apology, just getting removed is hardly a major move.
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Post by Colyton Gas on May 14, 2021 16:12:51 GMT
Absolute mess is right.Have little faith in our leaders they will sort the awful stadium out or even provide a single modern stand. Bottom of the league tells us where we are at on the field and if we don't do something to the Mem soon think we will be told to. Embarrassing state we are in.
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Post by aghast on May 14, 2021 16:22:55 GMT
I hope we do well but it's embarrassing having Barton as boss at the moment. Let's hope he can prove a lot of people wrong and make a success of his managerial career and grow as a man. For me, fail here or make another big mistake and its over for him. Not sure any manager's career would be over just because they failed at Rovers, it's become a bit of an elephants graveyard as far as managers go. If PT was so annoyed by the comments why didn't he seek an apology, just getting removed is hardly a major move. Well getting it removed has made the national press and humiliated Barton and our club, so it seems to have had the effect PT desired, and Barton's judgement is yet again in question.
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Post by aghast on May 14, 2021 16:24:20 GMT
Thats laughable. Any employee that brings his/her employer into disrepute would normally be sacked for gross misconduct. Perhaps misconduct is the norm on the Wirral? Is Barton from there? No Wirral’s posh end I just mean he’s smart good pr calling out the lawyers when they can’t sue him. If Wael backing him then his choice he knows what he’s dealing with back him and he’ll deliver Wael has backed so many managers in the last two years I'd be surprised if he can remember all their names.
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Post by Topper Gas on May 14, 2021 16:38:00 GMT
Not sure any manager's career would be over just because they failed at Rovers, it's become a bit of an elephants graveyard as far as managers go. If PT was so annoyed by the comments why didn't he seek an apology, just getting removed is hardly a major move. Well getting it removed has made the national press and humiliated Barton and our club, so it seems to have had the effect PT desired, and Barton's judgement is yet again in question. We've just finished bottom of L1 that's far more humiliating than the club simply removing an old video from our website.
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Post by Topper Gas on May 14, 2021 16:42:45 GMT
Barton called this spot on challenges Tisdales lawyers and challenged again last week. Tisdale is right nda is with the club not Barton so Wael will have to cough up and Barton is laughing. Time to get behind him it’s his club and their dancing to his tune Any chance you could use Google translate - Scouse to English - before you post anything so we can understand what you are trying to say?
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Post by wirralgas on May 14, 2021 17:01:54 GMT
Barton called this spot on challenges Tisdales lawyers and challenged again last week. Tisdale is right nda is with the club not Barton so Wael will have to cough up and Barton is laughing. Time to get behind him it’s his club and their dancing to his tune Any chance you could use Google translate - Scouse to English - before you post anything so we can understand what you are trying to say? Ha ha sorry mate I’ll type slower
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on May 14, 2021 18:43:35 GMT
Speak for yourself please. He is also speaking for me And me !utg 💙
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Post by falsenumber9 on May 14, 2021 18:48:09 GMT
He is also speaking for me And me !utg 💙 Cool story bro. Certainly not for me..
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on May 14, 2021 22:19:05 GMT
The word bang certainly came to mind when I saw that picture, regardless of the letters.
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