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Post by stuart1974 on Aug 4, 2021 7:57:31 GMT
Out of curiosity, how many cases a day would be acceptable for you to be happy to attend? As others have pointed out, I don't see how having an option for a select group would be workable. People can argue it's lost income but it's inevitable it would negatively impact gate receipts and matchday takings in the longer term. There's clearly a big correlation between atmosphere, attendances and the attraction to attend games so it feels common sense to me that clubs would protect their long term interests. I do sympathise with those with underlying health conditions who feel unable to attend. Yeah, I think the problem is that we all feel sympathetic to those who either can't or don't feel confident to attend games. But how would it be possible to implement an Ifollow arrangement..... I'd bet my bottom dollar that it wouldn't work on trust, so then where? Getting your doctor to give you a prescription certificate for ifollow. I just can't see a work around on this.... If someone is clinically vulnerable then it's likely they will already have lots of evidence such as medical correspondence or DLA at the higher rate. It would be up to the 'powers that be' to decide on the level if evidence, but it's doable given the will. It's also income that would not be forthcoming otherwise. Even a delayed recording would be better than non attendance.
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Post by curlywurly on Aug 4, 2021 8:10:57 GMT
Out of curiosity, how many cases a day would be acceptable for you to be happy to attend? As others have pointed out, I don't see how having an option for a select group would be workable. People can argue it's lost income but it's inevitable it would negatively impact gate receipts and matchday takings in the longer term. There's clearly a big correlation between atmosphere, attendances and the attraction to attend games so it feels common sense to me that clubs would protect their long term interests. I do sympathise with those with underlying health conditions who feel unable to attend. Yeah, I think the problem is that we all feel sympathetic to those who either can't or don't feel confident to attend games. But how would it be possible to implement an Ifollow arrangement..... I'd bet my bottom dollar that it wouldn't work on trust, so then where? Getting your doctor to give you a prescription certificate for ifollow. I just can't see a work around on this.... Although it might have read differently, I wasn't advocating any separate ifollow arrangement. I agree that that isn't workable, but I'm disappointed that the general option for ifollow video has been removed for Saturday games.
I'm just flagging up that there are plenty of people that will not be going to games because they feel at risk by attending. Personally I'm likely to attend several home games, but I know of many cases of the most loyal of supporters with 50 or 60 years of regularly attending, that have chosen to wait until the Covid numbers are well down.
As others have posted above, pricing ifollow appropriately means the clubs wouldn't lose out financially, but gives the option until we really are back to normal.
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Post by clampdown on Aug 4, 2021 8:18:07 GMT
Never had a problem masking my browser or location in the past Its what the dark web is al about But it takes more than just using a VPN as the other poster suggested? Just a vpn has always worked for me. Has something changed?
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Post by bluebiro on Aug 4, 2021 8:26:25 GMT
Ifollow Available for every match will signal the end of lower league football. I get it is fine for those at the moment that cant get to games but where will the future fan base come from if they have the option of just watching matches at home?there is just about a link at the moment from family ties and that should be built on not cut. It's hard enough already getting youngsters through the door and gaining their support.
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Post by GasAttacK on Aug 4, 2021 8:37:36 GMT
But it takes more than just using a VPN as the other poster suggested? Just a vpn has always worked for me. Has something changed? Also, do all VPN's work?
If not, which are the best for use with iFollow?
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Post by LJG on Aug 4, 2021 8:45:28 GMT
Ifollow Available for every match will signal the end of lower league football. I get it is fine for those at the moment that cant get to games but where will the future fan base come from if they have the option of just watching matches at home?there is just about a link at the moment from family ties and that should be built on not cut. It's hard enough already getting youngsters through the door and gaining their support. Exactly. To have it for the Saturday games is so obviously a bad commercial decision that could jeopardise the club's future I'm surprised anyone could suggest it in all sincerity.
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Post by curlywurly on Aug 4, 2021 9:17:18 GMT
Yeah, I think the problem is that we all feel sympathetic to those who either can't or don't feel confident to attend games. But how would it be possible to implement an Ifollow arrangement..... I'd bet my bottom dollar that it wouldn't work on trust, so then where? Getting your doctor to give you a prescription certificate for ifollow. I just can't see a work around on this.... Although it might have read differently, I wasn't advocating any separate ifollow arrangement. I agree that that isn't workable, but I'm disappointed that the general option for ifollow video has been removed for Saturday games.
I'm just flagging up that there are plenty of people that will not be going to games because they feel at risk by attending. Personally I'm likely to attend several home games, but I know of many cases of the most loyal of supporters with 50 or 60 years of regularly attending, that have chosen to wait until the Covid numbers are well down.
As others have posted above, pricing ifollow appropriately means the clubs wouldn't lose out financially, but gives the option until we really are back to normal.
Just to point out that the people I mention have renewed their season tickets, just as they did last season as a measure of support for the club. However, they won't be attending until they have more confidence.
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Post by curlywurly on Aug 4, 2021 9:19:08 GMT
Ifollow Available for every match will signal the end of lower league football. I get it is fine for those at the moment that cant get to games but where will the future fan base come from if they have the option of just watching matches at home?there is just about a link at the moment from family ties and that should be built on not cut. It's hard enough already getting youngsters through the door and gaining their support. Exactly. To have it for the Saturday games is so obviously a bad commercial decision that could jeopardise the club's future I'm surprised anyone could suggest it in all sincerity. Not if it is priced correctly. Not if it is for a limited period while we still have a pandemic. I suggest this in all sincerity.
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Post by SleepyGas on Aug 4, 2021 9:22:00 GMT
A VPN is the answer for anyone living elsewhere in the UK and wants to carry on getting involved. Pretty sure you need more than a VPN as iFollow, like Sky, also checks your browser's actual location. Nope. Just a VPN pointing to a foreign server to tunnel all your traffic via. Then all your internet traffic will come via the foreign server IP. The same way as when you work from home and connect to your work VPN you have an IP address allocated to you from your work's IP range and can access all the stuff you can only access from a work PC in the office usually.
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Post by falsenumber9 on Aug 4, 2021 9:25:35 GMT
Exactly. To have it for the Saturday games is so obviously a bad commercial decision that could jeopardise the club's future I'm surprised anyone could suggest it in all sincerity. Not if it is priced correctly. Not if it is for a limited period while we still have a pandemic. I suggest this in all sincerity. What's your suggested price CW?
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Post by LJG on Aug 4, 2021 9:42:20 GMT
Exactly. To have it for the Saturday games is so obviously a bad commercial decision that could jeopardise the club's future I'm surprised anyone could suggest it in all sincerity. Not if it is priced correctly. Not if it is for a limited period while we still have a pandemic. I suggest this in all sincerity. What do you mean by priced correctly? At what point do you suggest the limited period ends? How do you prevent misuse i.e. people using grandma who has never seen Rovers in her life to purchase a pass then streaming it at home with 4 or 5 people who otherwise would have gone to the game?
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Post by buktaboy on Aug 4, 2021 10:05:32 GMT
Anyone used a VPN to sign up for a season pass yet?
Asking for a friend.
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Post by GasAttacK on Aug 4, 2021 10:33:46 GMT
Anyone used a VPN to sign up for a season pass yet? Asking for a friend. No, but I'd like to do so for one of the elderly and vulnerable supporters I previously mentioned.
Saw his first Rovers game in 1942 and has only missed 14 games (home and away) in the past 26 years.
Spent £370.00 on a disabled season ticket and another £70.00 on the car park but is too worried about his health to return to crowded stadiums at this time.
He's clinically extremely vulnerbale, takes immunosuppressant drugs and has been shielding since March 2020.
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Post by poorblue on Aug 4, 2021 11:31:52 GMT
Out of curiosity, how many cases a day would be acceptable for you to be happy to attend? As others have pointed out, I don't see how having an option for a select group would be workable. People can argue it's lost income but it's inevitable it would negatively impact gate receipts and matchday takings in the longer term. There's clearly a big correlation between atmosphere, attendances and the attraction to attend games so it feels common sense to me that clubs would protect their long term interests. I do sympathise with those with underlying health conditions who feel unable to attend. Yeah, I think the problem is that we all feel sympathetic to those who either can't or don't feel confident to attend games. But how would it be possible to implement an Ifollow arrangement..... I'd bet my bottom dollar that it wouldn't work on trust, so then where? Getting your doctor to give you a prescription certificate for ifollow. I just can't see a work around on this.... Thank you for being sympathetic to those of us who are vulnerable. As a season ticket holder for generations including last season and this coming season I for one will not be attending in the short term until I can see covid rates seriously falling. I would attend if mandatory masks were required, but the Club has failed to assist in that matter even in selected areas that would accommodate both thoughts on this issue. The solution regarding IFollow is quite simple. As the Government did with the vaccine rollout they prioritised the elderly with those aged 70+ then worked down to 65+. The club could easily as last season allow season ticket holders in this age bracket to watch all home games free at least for an agree period until things get clearer on the covid rate. SIMPLES. No lost revenue as vulnerable season ticket holders have already paid but most probably wont attend
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Post by herbertblake on Aug 4, 2021 11:44:33 GMT
Anyone used a VPN to sign up for a season pass yet? Asking for a friend. No, but I'd like to do so for one of the elderly and vulnerable supporters I previously mentioned.
Saw his first Rovers game in 1942 and has only missed 14 games (home and away) in the past 26 years.
Spent £370.00 on a disabled season ticket and another £70.00 on the car park but is too worried about his health to return to crowded stadiums at this time.
He's clinically extremely vulnerbale, takes immunosuppressant drugs and has been shielding since March 2020. He could not have watched Rovers for first time in 1942 as club did not play from Oct 1939 to 1945 closed club down due to the War and financial situation.
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Post by Midsomer Murderer on Aug 4, 2021 11:45:26 GMT
Pretty sure you need more than a VPN as iFollow, like Sky, also checks your browser's actual location. Nope. Just a VPN pointing to a foreign server to tunnel all your traffic via. Then all your internet traffic will come via the foreign server IP. The same way as when you work from home and connect to your work VPN you have an IP address allocated to you from your work's IP range and can access all the stuff you can only access from a work PC in the office usually. I'm lucky in that I work in IT for a German company so have a local desktop and a virtual desktop hosted in Germany - Will try this out on Saturday
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Post by LJG on Aug 4, 2021 11:48:05 GMT
Yeah, I think the problem is that we all feel sympathetic to those who either can't or don't feel confident to attend games. But how would it be possible to implement an Ifollow arrangement..... I'd bet my bottom dollar that it wouldn't work on trust, so then where? Getting your doctor to give you a prescription certificate for ifollow. I just can't see a work around on this.... Thank you for being sympathetic to those of us who are vulnerable. As a season ticket holder for generations including last season and this coming season I for one will not be attending in the short term until I can see covid rates seriously falling. I would attend if mandatory masks were required, but the Club has failed to assist in that matter even in selected areas that would accommodate both thoughts on this issue. The solution regarding IFollow is quite simple. As the Government did with the vaccine rollout they prioritised the elderly with those aged 70+ then worked down to 65+. The club could easily as last season allow season ticket holders in this age bracket to watch all home games free at least for an agree period until things get clearer on the covid rate. SIMPLES. No lost revenue as vulnerable season ticket holders have already paid but most probably wont attend I sympathise with your predicament, I'm sorry to hear you aren't able to attend games for the time being. But in relation to your specific proposal - my mum is 75 she never goes to Rovers. If I buy her the cheapest OAP season ticket available the club gets £170 and my whole family who normally do go - me, my wife, my sister and two of her sons - can watch from the comfort of home. Why wouldn't we do that rather than spend the £1,750 we do (5 adult STs for the West enclosure)? There's the potential for the club to lose ten times the money it makes. Plus 2 teas, 3 coffees and 5 pasties every home game - call that what? £30? Per home match (x23) is another £690. I've saved two and a half grand and still get to watch every minute of every home game in the warm and dry. How would you propose stopping people from taking advantage of that?
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Post by bluebiro on Aug 4, 2021 11:59:37 GMT
Thank you for being sympathetic to those of us who are vulnerable. As a season ticket holder for generations including last season and this coming season I for one will not be attending in the short term until I can see covid rates seriously falling. I would attend if mandatory masks were required, but the Club has failed to assist in that matter even in selected areas that would accommodate both thoughts on this issue. The solution regarding IFollow is quite simple. As the Government did with the vaccine rollout they prioritised the elderly with those aged 70+ then worked down to 65+. The club could easily as last season allow season ticket holders in this age bracket to watch all home games free at least for an agree period until things get clearer on the covid rate. SIMPLES. No lost revenue as vulnerable season ticket holders have already paid but most probably wont attend I sympathise with your predicament, I'm sorry to hear you aren't able to attend games for the time being. But in relation to your specific proposal - my mum is 75 she never goes to Rovers. If I buy her the cheapest OAP season ticket available the club gets £170 and my whole family who normally do go - me, my wife, my sister and two of her sons - can watch from the comfort of home. Why wouldn't we do that rather than spend the £1,750 we do (5 adult STs for the West enclosure)? There's the potential for the club to lose ten times the money it makes. Plus 2 teas, 3 coffees and 5 pasties every home game - call that what? £30? Per home match (x23) is another £690. I've saved two and a half grand and still get to watch every minute of every home game in the warm and dry. How would you propose stopping people from taking advantage of that? you cant. It's a road to nowhere.we haven't the product that can absorb misuse of ifollow.premier league clubs can because somebody will always want that home seat in a stadium
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Post by LJG on Aug 4, 2021 13:43:23 GMT
No, but I'd like to do so for one of the elderly and vulnerable supporters I previously mentioned.
Saw his first Rovers game in 1942 and has only missed 14 games (home and away) in the past 26 years.
Spent £370.00 on a disabled season ticket and another £70.00 on the car park but is too worried about his health to return to crowded stadiums at this time.
He's clinically extremely vulnerbale, takes immunosuppressant drugs and has been shielding since March 2020. He could not have watched Rovers for first time in 1942 as club did not play from Oct 1939 to 1945 closed club down due to the War and financial situation. Good spot.
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Post by pucklegas on Aug 4, 2021 13:50:40 GMT
Anyone used a VPN to sign up for a season pass yet? Asking for a friend. I've ditched sky in favour of the Henbury Gas world football channel, £20 a month in a brown envelope every sport covered including pay per view prestige events 😂😂🏴☠️
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