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Post by stapletongas on Jun 28, 2021 13:42:52 GMT
do you have personal experience of this or do you know somebody it who had this happen to them ? Sounds very undemocratic and maybe against there own club rules an regulations I was the one it happened to and It was against their own constitution too according to John Malyckyj. But you’re coming up against people who tried to embezzle the owner on a false accusation of child safeguarding such is their desperation for some kind of control so perhaps I’m better off out of that and I’ll bid whomever takes it on the very best of luck because they will need it. If the SC are alleged to be acting unconstitutionally, stand as candidate for Chair.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jun 28, 2021 13:58:25 GMT
I was the one it happened to and It was against their own constitution too according to John Malyckyj. But you’re coming up against people who tried to embezzle the owner on a false accusation of child safeguarding such is their desperation for some kind of control so perhaps I’m better off out of that and I’ll bid whomever takes it on the very best of luck because they will need it. If the SC are alleged to be acting unconstitutionally, stand as candidate for Chair. I read it that he has?
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Post by gashead1981 on Jun 28, 2021 14:18:42 GMT
If the SC are alleged to be acting unconstitutionally, stand as candidate for Chair. I read it that he has? I was nominated for the SC fans director. The chairmanship I believe has another year to run. Either way, the email I had from Jim Chappell barred me from ever standing for an executive committee position both now and in the future. Attachments:
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jun 28, 2021 14:44:15 GMT
I was nominated for the SC fans director. The chairmanship I believe has another year to run. Either way, the email I had from Jim Chappell barred me from ever standing for an executive committee position both now and in the future. So basically Jim can bar anyone he likes from running based on a post on a forum? Wow. Just wow.
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Post by gashead1981 on Jun 28, 2021 15:08:35 GMT
I was nominated for the SC fans director. The chairmanship I believe has another year to run. Either way, the email I had from Jim Chappell barred me from ever standing for an executive committee position both now and in the future. So basically Jim can bar anyone he likes from running based on a post on a forum? Wow. Just wow. Yeah…quite something.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2021 15:10:11 GMT
I was nominated for the SC fans director. The chairmanship I believe has another year to run. Either way, the email I had from Jim Chappell barred me from ever standing for an executive committee position both now and in the future. So basically Jim can bar anyone he likes from running based on a post on a forum? Wow. Just wow. Just about sums up Chappell and his cronies. Going back a few years a workmate of mine got the four of us coach tickets for the Shrewsbury Wembley playoff final. They were clearly marked for coach one and on boarding the coach at the Mem we found our seats occupied and the coach full. It became quite quickly obvious by comments made by several men and dare I call them ladies of a senior age that this was a coach for the supporters club cronies and we were not welcome. The four of us could not get off that coach fast enough and apart from the 50/50 the SC has never had another penny off me and never will again.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jun 28, 2021 15:12:09 GMT
So basically Jim can bar anyone he likes from running based on a post on a forum? Wow. Just wow. Yeah…quite something. Surely the right thing to do is to allow you to run and then to beat you because you are demonstrably unsuitable and he could field a much more qualified and appropriate candidate.
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Post by aghast on Jun 28, 2021 16:55:48 GMT
Surely the right thing to do is to allow you to run and then to beat you because you are demonstrably unsuitable and he could field a much more qualified and appropriate candidate. North Korea would be proud.
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Post by gashead1981 on Jun 28, 2021 17:09:08 GMT
Surely the right thing to do is to allow you to run and then to beat you because you are demonstrably unsuitable and he could field a much more qualified and appropriate candidate. Well if nothing else that would be correct and democratic thing to do. But perhaps they were scared of me winning it, not that I think for one moment I would have done or that I am the best candidate, it would have been an interesting thing to put across an alternative proposal to what’s been served up in recent years. What I am fairly convinced I could have done is bridged the crevasse between the FC and SC and repaired that relationship but I really don’t think the SC have any real declared interest in doing so. If they had, I’m pretty sure they would have appointed a FD already to work with the FC through the pandemic, through the build of the quarters and in the renewed ownership structure to ensure they were at least inside the curve or in front of it when it came to working with Wael and the new directors. That said, perhaps nothing would change anyway. It needs a big old sweep out and a restructure with dedicated departments to a much more modern and inclusive club. Simply sponsoring certain avenues only goes so far.
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Post by yaz on Jun 28, 2021 19:58:58 GMT
Agree it's like the Mafia,you would think a football club would be a simple organisation however,we seem to have created a private club within a club. All so unnecessary and pointless. The SC carry out some very good and noble deeds, programme sales, raising money via 50/50 and there are lots of people who are members who are honest, humble, kind and all round nice people. The ones at the top table discolour and dishonour their members by their acts. It’s such a shame. Generally agree. Most clubs with membership get run like this but become like this as the board membership usually drive the club and do most of the work together with dedicated volunteers? All time and effort is usually given free. I understand they also arrange and subsidise cheap travel to away games? The objective and aims of the SC should be to support the football club in the best way possible including the fans. The running of the football club should be left to the club owners and management. Members fo a lot of good to help the club on match days etc. One way the SC can help the club and its fans is by keeping an independent view of the club and its running and highlight any issues that come up. It should be the main forum for fans to raise any issues, queries etc. that can then be put forward to the club by the SC? Membership for next year is FREE for all of last years members because of COVID. If there are things wrong, raise them and try to change them?
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Post by yaz on Jun 28, 2021 20:09:20 GMT
Surely the right thing to do is to allow you to run and then to beat you because you are demonstrably unsuitable and he could field a much more qualified and appropriate candidate. North Korea would be proud. Why North Korea? Look at your own government and how it is run with multi million / billion pound contracts awarded to “cronies” with no evidence to support how the contracts were awarded? I doubt if you have ever been to N Korea or even know where it is? There are far worse countries that this country supports and supplies weapons to eg. Saudis, Israelis, Yemen, etc. North Korea is vilified by the West because it has nuclear weapons now and can stand up against the US hegemony in SE Asia? It may have a dictatorship but how many countries are truly democratic? 😜
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Post by gashead1981 on Jun 28, 2021 20:13:22 GMT
The SC carry out some very good and noble deeds, programme sales, raising money via 50/50 and there are lots of people who are members who are honest, humble, kind and all round nice people. The ones at the top table discolour and dishonour their members by their acts. It’s such a shame. Generally agree. Most clubs with membership get run like this but become like this as the board membership usually drive the club and do most of the work together with dedicated volunteers? All time and effort is usually given free. I understand they also arrange and subsidise cheap travel to away games? The objective and aims of the SC should be to support the football club in the best way possible including the fans. The running of the football club should be left to the club owners and management. Members fo a lot of good to help the club on match days etc. One way the SC can help the club and its fans is by keeping an independent view of the club and its running and highlight any issues that come up. It should be the main forum for fans to raise any issues, queries etc. that can then be put forward to the club by the SC? Membership for next year is FREE for all of last years members because of COVID. If there are things wrong, raise them and try to change them? Independent forums are a force for good but also need to be cooperative. BRSC is not that. BRSC work in the interests of the executive committee and their close aides and accomplices rather that the club or the fans. There are lots of things wrong with BRSC. I’ve been personally and openly critical and put myself forward to help change the things I perceive to be wrong and widen the spectrum of what they achieve. But the executive committee didn’t want the opportunity for change and decided to deselect my application. That proves that it’s an agenda driven, closed shop and not in any way democratic and has no real interest in change as long as it doesn’t suit the ones at the top table.
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Post by oliverhelmet on Jun 28, 2021 20:27:57 GMT
I was nominated for the SC fans director. The chairmanship I believe has another year to run. Either way, the email I had from Jim Chappell barred me from ever standing for an executive committee position both now and in the future. Feck me the ‘Executive’ 😂 😂 have eyes everywhere.Should have just embezzled £150k for the bingo mate.
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Post by yaz on Jun 28, 2021 20:29:40 GMT
Generally agree. Most clubs with membership get run like this but become like this as the board membership usually drive the club and do most of the work together with dedicated volunteers? All time and effort is usually given free. I understand they also arrange and subsidise cheap travel to away games? The objective and aims of the SC should be to support the football club in the best way possible including the fans. The running of the football club should be left to the club owners and management. Members fo a lot of good to help the club on match days etc. One way the SC can help the club and its fans is by keeping an independent view of the club and its running and highlight any issues that come up. It should be the main forum for fans to raise any issues, queries etc. that can then be put forward to the club by the SC? Membership for next year is FREE for all of last years members because of COVID. If there are things wrong, raise them and try to change them? Independent forums are a force for good but also need to be cooperative. BRSC is not that. BRSC work in the interests of the executive committee and their close aides and accomplices rather that the club or the fans. There are lots of things wrong with BRSC. I’ve been personally and openly critical and put myself forward to help change the things I perceive to be wrong and widen the spectrum of what they achieve. But the executive committee didn’t want the opportunity for change and decided to deselect my application. That proves that it’s an agenda driven, closed shop and not in any way democratic and has no real interest in change as long as it doesn’t suit the ones at the top table. I have limited knowledge of the SC but the evidence and what I have seen seems to point that way? Examples: AGMs are held midweek. I live in London so very costly to attend? Would be easy to hold after a Saturday match and after the bars are closed in one of the club bars? I agree with you about things not being as open as they could be. Maybe it takes time and effort to update the website? Minutes of meetings should always be put there. The last AGM I went to, there were 3 signed shirts given by the club to raffle for free at the AGM. The 3 tickets numbers drawn out, if I remember correctly, were sequential! and …. yes, all belonged to the boards members! 😜 The best way to effect change is to stand up and “fight” for it. The AGM is usually held in October? Let’s see if it is held this year and what comes up?
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Post by aghast on Jun 28, 2021 20:41:32 GMT
North Korea would be proud. Why North Korea? Look at your own government and how it is run with multi million / billion pound contracts awarded to “cronies” with no evidence to support how the contracts were awarded? I doubt if you have ever been to N Korea or even know where it is? There are far worse countries that this country supports and supplies weapons to eg. Saudis, Israelis, Yemen, etc. North Korea is vilified by the West because it has nuclear weapons now and can stand up against the US hegemony in SE Asia? It may have a dictatorship but how many countries are truly democratic? 😜 Thanks for that valuable contribution xx
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Post by yaz on Jun 28, 2021 20:59:39 GMT
Why North Korea? Look at your own government and how it is run with multi million / billion pound contracts awarded to “cronies” with no evidence to support how the contracts were awarded? I doubt if you have ever been to N Korea or even know where it is? There are far worse countries that this country supports and supplies weapons to eg. Saudis, Israelis, Yemen, etc. North Korea is vilified by the West because it has nuclear weapons now and can stand up against the US hegemony in SE Asia? It may have a dictatorship but how many countries are truly democratic? 😜 Thanks for that valuable contribution xx You are welcome! Just hate it when people repeat the propaganda that is continuously shoved down their throats? Just like people opposing Qatar getting World Cup! Why should the Middle East not get a tournament? As regards it’s human rights, well there are far far worse countries with worse human rights records who have had the World Cup? 👍
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Post by tommym9 on Jun 29, 2021 11:08:27 GMT
Thanks for that valuable contribution xx You are welcome! Just hate it when people repeat the propaganda that is continuously shoved down their throats? Just like people opposing Qatar getting World Cup! Why should the Middle East not get a tournament? As regards it’s human rights, well there are far far worse countries with worse human rights records who have had the World Cup? 👍 If you can name one, I'll donate a fiver to the Community Trust
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Post by stuart1974 on Jun 29, 2021 11:13:42 GMT
You are welcome! Just hate it when people repeat the propaganda that is continuously shoved down their throats? Just like people opposing Qatar getting World Cup! Why should the Middle East not get a tournament? As regards it’s human rights, well there are far far worse countries with worse human rights records who have had the World Cup? 👍 If you can name one, I'll donate a fiver to the Community Trust Don't really want to prolong the politics here, Argentina in 1978 is possibly the only one I can think of.
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Post by yaz on Jun 29, 2021 11:53:59 GMT
You are welcome! Just hate it when people repeat the propaganda that is continuously shoved down their throats? Just like people opposing Qatar getting World Cup! Why should the Middle East not get a tournament? As regards it’s human rights, well there are far far worse countries with worse human rights records who have had the World Cup? 👍 If you can name one, I'll donate a fiver to the Community Trust USA South Africa Of course it depends on how you view human rights? 😜
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Post by baggins on Jun 29, 2021 12:06:03 GMT
Is this still about the SC election or who's first up against the wall?
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