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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2014 21:58:21 GMT
i think we should offer dc a 3 year deal before we lose him,,,,,,,we have a vocal minority of fans who hate him and constantly snipe at him every time we dont win and downplay every win we have.
im certain hes going to succeed here or somewhere else and he must know a number of our "fans " are out to get him and he needs security like everyone so i think the club should act now and back him with a longer deal.
although some will get there way and be very happy if he takes a post at a league club i will be very sad as i think our best chance of getting back in the league is with him as our manager.
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Post by aghast on Dec 6, 2014 22:07:02 GMT
With only three wins in the last ten games, it's not surprising that some lose patience and shout some nasty stuff.
Having said that, we've moved up to 2nd place in the table. How is this possible? It's a strange and confusing place, this Conference world, where we hardly ever win but keep rising up the league.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Dec 6, 2014 22:08:03 GMT
i think we should offer dc a 3 year deal before we lose him,,,,,,,we have a vocal minority of fans who hate him and constantly snipe at him every time we dont win and downplay every win we have. im certain hes going to succeed here or somewhere else and he must know a number of our "fans " are out to get him and he needs security like everyone so i think the club should act now and back him with a longer deal. although some will get there way and be very happy if he takes a post at a league club i will be very sad as i think our best chance of getting back in the league is with him as our manager. I'm a fan of his but I don't agree this is a good idea. This is a big risk and football can soon turn either way. We can't afford to be taking unnecessary risks like this. I can't imagine too many other clubs will be THAT interested in him YET. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2014 22:20:35 GMT
Nobody at this club should ever again be given a 3 year deal. Why on earth would Hartlepool go for a manager that is unproven when rock bottom of the football league ?
I say give him a rolling 1 year deal until he achieves success in league 2
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2014 22:26:06 GMT
Nobody at this club should ever again be given a 3 year deal. Why on earth would Hartlepool go for a manager that is unproven when rock bottom of the football league ? I say give him a rolling 1 year deal until he achieves success in league 2 They offered him a job before whilst with us. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 6, 2014 22:38:19 GMT
I'm not sure why there's such a love in with DC by some fans, the only good part of his present team, the defence, was built by previous managers anything's he's built hasn't really worked as we're now on his third frontline but it still seems incapable of getting the goals we need to win games. Looking at our next half a dozen games we could well be in a false position in the league unless we learn how to score goals soon.
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Post by ganymede on Dec 6, 2014 22:40:26 GMT
i think we should offer dc a 3 year deal before we lose him,,,,,,,we have a vocal minority of fans who hate him and constantly snipe at him every time we dont win and downplay every win we have. im certain hes going to succeed here or somewhere else and he must know a number of our "fans " are out to get him and he needs security like everyone so i think the club should act now and back him with a longer deal. although some will get there way and be very happy if he takes a post at a league club i will be very sad as i think our best chance of getting back in the league is with him as our manager. I like DC ... but ... a three year deal is too long; things can turn ugly quickly and a three year deal could be costly. I would say "leave things as they are". |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2014 22:50:56 GMT
I don't agree with a 3 year deal for DC, but it wouldn't hurt for some of our fans to get off his back for a while. Some have picked up on his comment about Welling being a difficult place to go to - yet they have played 7 of the top 8 clubs at home, and only lost once, to a last minute goal by Barnet, so what was inaccurate about what he said?
If he's driven out, I'm sure it would be a case of 'you don't know what you've got 'til it's gone'.
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Post by Topper Gas on Dec 6, 2014 23:12:47 GMT
I don't agree with a 3 year deal for DC, but it wouldn't hurt for some of our fans to get off his back for a while. Some have picked up on his comment about Welling being a difficult place to go to - yet they have played 7 of the top 8 clubs at home, and only lost once, to a last minute goal by Barnet, so what was inaccurate about what he said? If he's driven out, I'm sure it would be a case of 'you don't know what you've got 'til it's gone'. Then again perhaps we'll get somebody who forgets the sound bites and instead builds a team capable of winning away games. Barnet showed today that winning one away game is better than drawing two! As far as "driven out" who else with a 6K home gate is going to employ a Conference manager?? |
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Dec 6, 2014 23:30:14 GMT
I don't agree with a 3 year deal for DC, but it wouldn't hurt for some of our fans to get off his back for a while. Some have picked up on his comment about Welling being a difficult place to go to - yet they have played 7 of the top 8 clubs at home, and only lost once, to a last minute goal by Barnet, so what was inaccurate about what he said? If he's driven out, I'm sure it would be a case of 'you don't know what you've got 'til it's gone'. Then again perhaps we'll get somebody who forgets the sound bites and instead builds a team capable of winning away games. Barnet showed today that winning one away game is better than drawing two! As far as "driven out" who else with a 6K home gate is going to employ a Conference manager?? What exactly is a "Conference manager"? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2014 23:52:52 GMT
I'm not sure why there's such a love in with DC by some fans, the only good part of his present team, the defence, was built by previous managers anything's he's built hasn't really worked as we're now on his third frontline but it still seems incapable of getting the goals we need to win games. Looking at our next half a dozen games we could well be in a false position in the league unless we learn how to score goals soon. Think its something to do with the fact we are second in the league and good players or not, they need a manager to guide them. DC has guided us to second in the league. Maybe that's where the live in comes from? |
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Post by markczgas on Dec 7, 2014 0:00:38 GMT
I don't agree with a 3 year deal for DC, but it wouldn't hurt for some of our fans to get off his back for a while. Some have picked up on his comment about Welling being a difficult place to go to - yet they have played 7 of the top 8 clubs at home, and only lost once, to a last minute goal by Barnet, so what was inaccurate about what he said? If he's driven out, I'm sure it would be a case of 'you don't know what you've got 'til it's gone'. It's not just Welling - every time we go away he describes the opposition as TOUGH - even Telford and Alfreton - for crying out loud !! Why doesn't he adopt an attack -minded approach - home and away . We are way too cautious and half the time it's like watching paint dry. He needs to get the players fired up so there is more intensity in our play from the first whistle. We have scored 28 in 25 games - so either the forwards are naff, the build -up play /creativity is crap or he gets his tactics /team -talk wrong. Of course it could be a combination of these. I feel personally it's more of the last two despite our forward line not being great. |
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Post by Mark Ash on Dec 7, 2014 0:09:42 GMT
I certainly appreciate DC and it made me shudder to hear the new interview with Buckle, still finding excuses and insinuating things. Not just a poor manager, but also not a person I could take to at all. So I think we are lucky with the man we have.
However, we shouldn't get too carried away with being 2nd. We are only there because the Conference fixtures are in a mess. We have played FOUR games more than some teams, which is a shambolic piece of organisation and makes it very hard to gauge the relative performance of teams (which is supposed to be the point of a league table). Our true position is probably just about in the playoffs, but it's hard to know.
I think we're doing ok-ish, but promotion is touch and go. We are dropping a lot of points. DC is not working a miracle, but he is a good manager. I think that's about the reality of it.
Edit: 4 games more than Eastleigh anyway - who would overtake us comfortably.
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Post by markczgas on Dec 7, 2014 0:15:42 GMT
I certainly appreciate DC and it made me shudder to hear the new interview with Buckle, still finding excuses and insinuating things. Not just a poor manager, but also not a person I could take to at all. So I think we are lucky with the man we have. However, we shouldn't get too carried away with being 2nd. We are only there because the Conference fixtures are in a mess. We have played FOUR games more than some teams, which is a shambolic piece of organisation and makes it very hard to gauge the relative performance of teams (which is supposed to be the point of a league table). Our true position is probably just about in the playoffs, but it's hard to know. I think we're doing ok-ish, but promotion is touch and go. We are dropping a lot of points. DC is not working a miracle, but he is a good manager. I think that's about the reality of it.
Edit: 4 games more than Eastleigh anyway - who would overtake us comfortably. Yep agree with that pretty much. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2014 0:37:28 GMT
I think it's early days to think about giving DC such a deal. He has done well this season after a shakey start, but the job is not done that job being getting us back in the league. If and when that happens is the time to think about 3 year deals IMO.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2014 7:15:56 GMT
Nobody at this club should ever again be given a 3 year deal. Why on earth would Hartlepool go for a manager that is unproven when rock bottom of the football league ? I say give him a rolling 1 year deal until he achieves success in league 2 They offered him a job before whilst with us. No, someone on social media said they did |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2014 7:20:04 GMT
I'm not sure why there's such a love in with DC by some fans, the only good part of his present team, the defence, was built by previous managers anything's he's built hasn't really worked as we're now on his third frontline but it still seems incapable of getting the goals we need to win games. Looking at our next half a dozen games we could well be in a false position in the league unless we learn how to score goals soon. Think its something to do with the fact we are second in the league and good players or not, they need a manager to guide them. DC has guided us to second in the league. Maybe that's where the live in comes from? DC is doing well at the monent but I think most clubs would want to see a manager gain success over a whole season before appointing them especially when in the state Hartlepool are in. DC is not even mentioned on the bookies lists. Also DC was poor when taking over us when we were in a mess and i dont see Hartlepool as being any easier. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2014 10:14:43 GMT
I don't agree with a 3 year deal for DC, but it wouldn't hurt for some of our fans to get off his back for a while. Some have picked up on his comment about Welling being a difficult place to go to - yet they have played 7 of the top 8 clubs at home, and only lost once, to a last minute goal by Barnet, so what was inaccurate about what he said? If he's driven out, I'm sure it would be a case of 'you don't know what you've got 'til it's gone'. It's not just Welling - every time we go away he describes the opposition as TOUGH - even Telford and Alfreton - for crying out loud !! I take your point - on reflection, I jumped on the fact that the soundbite was backed up by stats on this occassion! |
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Post by Dirt Dogg on Dec 7, 2014 10:23:47 GMT
The people that say DC didn't even build the defense are the same people who say Trotman is the best CB we've had in year..
Make your minds up ffs!!
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Post by gasoline on Dec 7, 2014 10:31:53 GMT
As the man in-charge when we went down, you would have to expect that DC would want to 'right the wrong' before he even thought about joining another club.
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