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Post by bluestone on Aug 18, 2021 11:49:29 GMT
Surely got to stick with the same team if fit. Can't drop Finley or Grant for Coutts IMO (maybe don't let us down again captain!). Loving all the Grant support, not many of us were backing him last season. Nicholson and Pitman from the bench until they are fit. Agreed, Pitman is a long way from being fit. He made me chuckle last night when a ball was put into the left channel, he and Nicholson were chasing for it from slightly different directions, Pitman was closer than Nicholson but he waved at Nicholson to chase it instead of himself! Yeah, I had a laugh too, it was like he was speed walking around the pitch instead of running! 🤣
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Post by wallywalters on Aug 18, 2021 11:54:52 GMT
Was it pitman who finished the chance ruled out for offside? Couldn’t see from down the thatchers end. If it was looked a tidy finish which is what he’s all about.
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Post by Quarters on Aug 18, 2021 12:18:41 GMT
Was it pitman who finished the chance ruled out for offside? Couldn’t see from down the thatchers end. If it was looked a tidy finish which is what he’s all about. Was Baldwin I think.
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Post by seanclevedongas on Aug 18, 2021 12:18:58 GMT
Was it pitman who finished the chance ruled out for offside? Couldn’t see from down the thatchers end. If it was looked a tidy finish which is what he’s all about. I thought that was Baldwin
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Post by seanclevedongas on Aug 18, 2021 12:19:28 GMT
Was it pitman who finished the chance ruled out for offside? Couldn’t see from down the thatchers end. If it was looked a tidy finish which is what he’s all about. Was Baldwin I think. SNAP!
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Post by bluegas on Aug 18, 2021 12:43:25 GMT
Agreed, Pitman is a long way from being fit. He made me chuckle last night when a ball was put into the left channel, he and Nicholson were chasing for it from slightly different directions, Pitman was closer than Nicholson but he waved at Nicholson to chase it instead of himself! Yeah, I had a laugh too, it was like he was speed walking around the pitch instead of running! 🤣 For those with long memories - Bob Newton reincarnated.
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Post by LJG on Aug 18, 2021 12:50:43 GMT
It is very easy to be critical after defeat but not to bother to comment after a good display and result. This is fully in evidence by the number of posts after saturdays defeat compared to number of posts after last nights win. Then there is the usual Oldham are terrible and certainties to go down and here you have the mindset of a football supporter. Lets be honest Stevenage were no better on Saturday and we looked awful and in the same vein I would say that we were very good last night and our PERFORMANCE especially in the first half made Oldham look awful. Had we come off 4-0 at half time it would have been a fair reflection of the play and they would probably have got off lightly aided by another inept refereeing performance Yes they have lost their first three league games and are bottom but if you look at those games- 0-1 at home to Newport with Newport scoring an 88th minute winner against the run of play and 1-2 away at Bradford with a 96th minute penalty denying them a draw. Who beat Stevenage last night 4-1? That same Bradford City team. So perhaps they are not as awful as people are saying and perhaps it was more a case of our attacking play and pace and movement of our players tearing them apart? It will be interesting now to see if this was a one off or the signs of much better things to come. So many players impressed me last night and not even a poor second half in comparison to the first can hide my pleasure of seeing the possibility of something special with the performances of Saunders, Collins, Finley, Anderson and Rodman all showing great flair and ability, One quote from a Rovers supporter in this thread who I will not name because I cannot believe the stupidness of the statement and can only assume he is joking or perhaps so old that he has fallen asleep in most of the games he has seen!!- " The standard of the first half of the game was the worst I think I have seen in 60 years of watching professional football!" and I think this sums up just how little credit some are willing to give to the team. All i can say is if that was the worst he has seen then for one he could not have been at either of the previous home games this season for starters!! I would suggest he best not follow football if that is the case because you aren't going to get many better performances over 45 minutes!! Roll on saturday now and lets hope we can see 90 minutes of the worst standard he has seen in 60 years. Get over it, Steve. It wasn't Czech Republic v Holland at Euro 2004. It was second from bottom v bottom in League Two and it looked like it. It was nice to see a bit of attacking play but if we're allowed to say that GC winning week in week out for 46 games and being 4th in League One is "papering over the cracks" then I don't know what to tell you about people not commenting when we win. What I will say though is at least those people just don't comment when they're wrong, unlike you who still comments but pretends you're right - like you always did when Ollie Clarke had a good game, like you did last week when Luca Houle was playing well.
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Post by wallywalters on Aug 18, 2021 13:31:28 GMT
Was it pitman who finished the chance ruled out for offside? Couldn’t see from down the thatchers end. If it was looked a tidy finish which is what he’s all about. Was Baldwin I think. Ah fair enough. I have no idea what goes on down that end 🤣
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Post by bluebiro on Aug 18, 2021 13:52:16 GMT
Yeah, I had a laugh too, it was like he was speed walking around the pitch instead of running! 🤣 For those with long memories - Bob Newton reincarnated. cant imagine super Bob would even get the slim fit shirts over his head let alone the stomach if playing now
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Post by stevek192 on Aug 18, 2021 14:54:13 GMT
LJG, At least if you are going to be critical get the facts right/ I was not critical of Luca Houles game last week and as regards Ollie Clarke plenty of people used to agree with me on his performances at the time and I did praise him when he played well. Very rarely were my markings for matches far out from the majority who marked the match. I never stated I was right but my match reports were the way I saw the game and as you well know everybody has their opinions on players and how they play. I am not a great lover of the one up front and I like midfielders who WANT the ball and don't shy away from receiving it and get frequently booked for fouling hence why I was not keen on Ollie Clarke. Finley looks to me to be the type of midfielder we should be playing.
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Post by LJG on Aug 18, 2021 15:03:46 GMT
LJG, At least if you are going to be critical get the facts right/ I was not critical of Luca Houles game last week and as regards Ollie Clarke plenty of people used to agree with me on his performances at the time and I did praise him when he played well. Very rarely were my markings for matches far out from the majority who marked the match. I never stated I was right but my match reports were the way I saw the game and as you well know everybody has their opinions on players and how they play. I am not a great lover of the one up front and I like midfielders who WANT the ball and don't shy away from receiving it and get frequently booked for fouling hence why I was not keen on Ollie Clarke. Finley looks to me to be the type of midfielder we should be playing. Of course you like Finley. He's not local and hasn't come up through the ranks as our own youngster - perfect for you. It's our home grown young lads you really don't like.
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Post by stevek192 on Aug 18, 2021 16:15:05 GMT
What absolute nonsense LJG. I long admired our local talent when we used to produce REAL quality. Those times are` long gone and this is the reason why nowadays we have to get in youngsters on free transfers from other clubs because the ones we are producing are not good enough even when we are at League 2 level. I like Finley because he is a good footballer and I firmly believe that I will like most of JBs signings for the same reason. Lockyer and Lines have been the only good players home grown in the last 20 years. I can assure you LJG that there have been plenty of non home grown talent that I have not been impressed with too so what you are saying is as usual nonsense with the greatest respect.
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Post by stevek192 on Aug 18, 2021 16:18:31 GMT
gasaholic, I am one of those old people too so I was not making a backhanded go but rather playing on the words of this poster who I did not name!
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Post by Quarters on Aug 18, 2021 16:42:24 GMT
What absolute nonsense LJG. I long admired our local talent when we used to produce REAL quality. Those times are` long gone and this is the reason why nowadays we have to get in youngsters on free transfers from other clubs because the ones we are producing are not good enough even when we are at League 2 level. I like Finley because he is a good footballer and I firmly believe that I will like most of JBs signings for the same reason. Lockyer and Lines have been the only good players home grown in the last 20 years. I can assure you LJG that there have been plenty of non home grown talent that I have not been impressed with too so what you are saying is as usual nonsense with the greatest respect. Scott Sinclair Matt Macey Donovan Young lad who went to Villa. Ellis Harrison Ollie Clarke Clarke the goalkeeper All came through ranks I think. How many of recent signings are young enough to be considered a prospect, permanent signings.
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Post by LJG on Aug 18, 2021 17:11:03 GMT
What absolute nonsense LJG. I long admired our local talent when we used to produce REAL quality. Those times are` long gone and this is the reason why nowadays we have to get in youngsters on free transfers from other clubs because the ones we are producing are not good enough even when we are at League 2 level. I like Finley because he is a good footballer and I firmly believe that I will like most of JBs signings for the same reason. Lockyer and Lines have been the only good players home grown in the last 20 years. I can assure you LJG that there have been plenty of non home grown talent that I have not been impressed with too so what you are saying is as usual nonsense with the greatest respect. First of all you say you're not critical of Luca Houle now you're saying he's not good enough for League Two ...
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Post by warwickgas on Aug 18, 2021 17:46:13 GMT
We’re insulting the young lad his name is Hoole
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Post by LJG on Aug 18, 2021 18:48:44 GMT
We’re insulting the young lad his name is Hoole So it is!
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Post by stevek192 on Aug 18, 2021 18:56:34 GMT
I am not critical of Luca Houle but am talking in general about players I am so say critical of. I do not believe that Luca Houle is ready yet for regular League 2 football but in the future he may be. He did very well in the games he played and I think he may well force himself in the squad ahead of people like Hargreaves, Liddle, Walker, Mehew Tomlinson and maybe even Martinez which could wipe out another group of our young players who I wouldnt be at all surprised to see drop down to National Level or below. If any young player really stands out then most are taken from us before they have even made the bench. As LJG is so keen to crucify me over Ollie Clarke and my opinion of him as a league 1 footballer which is what he was when he was with us where has he gone to since he left us? I always said when we were in the Conference and League 2 his use to us in those days were that he scored goals but if you cut those out which he pretty well did in his last season with us the only thing he gave us on a regular basis were bookings. Because i don't follow closely our younger groups I can only comment on those that do break through and actually make appearances . There have been names of young players even in the last few years who have been pretty highly rated ie Phillips, Harry Warwick but they don't seem to make it and we have another couple at this time Hulbert and the young centre forward and it will be interesting to see where they end up.
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Post by legas on Aug 18, 2021 19:10:45 GMT
HOOLE
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Post by stevek192 on Aug 18, 2021 19:12:11 GMT
As regards Pitman I agree he didnt look 100% fit but to criticise him for sending Nicholson to shut the player down is experience which is what he was put on for and the biggest fault that Saunders had in that position before last night. He just charged headlessly between each player whereas by doing what he did Pitman was in fact staying with two centre halves and cutting them out the equation. He is coming back from injury and even the fitness coaches didnt think he would be back so JB knew he could only manage 20 minutes. Had he been on the first half hour say I would not have been surprised to see him finish off a couple of those great moves. He will probably score the most goals of all our signings and for all those who are laughing at him a certain Andy Rammell who saved us single handidly pretty well was fighting constant injuries and fitness.
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