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Post by bluebiro on Oct 3, 2021 15:10:06 GMT
These heat maps show the scale of Swindon's domination.
Rovers (left side) had 445 touches and were stuck mainly in their own half and had very few entries into the final third, let alone Swindon's penalty area.
Swindon (right side) had 702 touches and enjoyed plenty of time in Rovers half.
It's interesting that the hottest part of the heat map on Rovers map is in our own box and the hottest part of Swindon's map is also in our own box.
unfortunately 7 defenders and a goalkeeper didnt need a heat map to show our surrender on the pitch yesterday
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Post by curlywurly on Oct 3, 2021 15:18:05 GMT
These heat maps show the scale of Swindon's domination.
Rovers (left side) had 445 touches and were stuck mainly in their own half and had very few entries into the final third, let alone Swindon's penalty area.
Swindon (right side) had 702 touches and enjoyed plenty of time in Rovers half.
It's interesting that the hottest part of the heat map on Rovers map is in our own box and the hottest part of Swindon's map is also in our own box.
I'm afraid this heat map could be repeated for most of Rovers games this season. We are setting up too defensively. With a back 3, typically our wingbacks (or at least one of them) are actually full backs. We've got at least two holding midfield players and limit our midfield attacking potential as a result. The only way this would work, is if we had a front line that was quick as lightening to counter-attack, but persisting with Pitman as our main focus will never achieve this.
Tactically, this is a set up to fail. It is made worse that we seem to push the self destruct button at the back too often, but this is a consequence of the invited pressure.
My view now is the only way we can change this is a change of coaching team - and use January to get some new legs up front.
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Post by stevek192 on Oct 3, 2021 15:30:31 GMT
curlywurly, You are completely right but pace wont matter playing how we play as we get bogged down in our own half because every time the opponents get a corner we have 11 back and all we do is kick the ball out to nobody and remain under pressure. With the players we have JB could still change the set up by playing Saunders and Collins up top with Pitman and stop opponents playing the ball out. IMO the main problem from last season should have been the getting of pace in the defence so we could push further up the pitch.In truth our defence is even slower than last season and Hughes or Anderton provide more questions than answers. Even with what we have got I think we would stand more chance playing a pressing game. The current side is just terrible to watch and a total waste of a few hours.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 3, 2021 15:49:00 GMT
I'm just a football fan, and really dont know the fine details of setting up a team. I had a go with kids football a few years back and that was difficult enough.
However we are making it to complicated, we are trying to use Premier League tactics with L2 players and this clearly isn't working. Someone needs to come up with an answer and quickly. UTG
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Post by bobbyjones on Oct 3, 2021 15:56:37 GMT
That’s extreme even on a night like this after the two and a half seasons we have had. This club will not end or cease to exist that does not happen to football clubs. Can you name one that has completely disappeared. Whatever happens Bristol Rovers will exist in some shape or form the same as Accrington, Hereford, Wimbledon and many others who were written off and consigned to the football dustbin. We have got some hard times ahead as if what we’ve had to endure isn’t enough while this club sorts itself out and who knows where that will take us, but Bristol Rovers will be there long after we have gone. I guess you could argue none of those original clubs still exist but have all been replaced by new phoenix clubs? What I can't understand is Wael seems to be throwing £m's at the club but we just get progressively worse each season. You can probably count on one hand the number of good performances since we had the new pitch installed. Likewise what's the point in having similar pitches at the Quarters if we don't perform on matchdays at the Mem. As said on another thread Waels out to ruin us along with Lansdown. You stated Waels £20 million buying off debts as credit to him but £20mill is nothing to lansdown. He would be happy to pay that to get rid of us, BRISTOL ROVERS.
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 3, 2021 16:11:47 GMT
I guess you could argue none of those original clubs still exist but have all been replaced by new phoenix clubs? What I can't understand is Wael seems to be throwing £m's at the club but we just get progressively worse each season. You can probably count on one hand the number of good performances since we had the new pitch installed. Likewise what's the point in having similar pitches at the Quarters if we don't perform on matchdays at the Mem. As said on another thread Waels out to ruin us along with Lansdown. You stated Waels £20 million buying off debts as credit to him but £20mill is nothing to lansdown. He would be happy to pay that to get rid of us, BRISTOL ROVERS. So you think Lansdown is funding the Quarters in the background at a cost of £5m+ just to finish us off, wouldn't it be a lot cheaper to just spend nothing and make us still train at Cribbs or similar? I sense supporting Rovers is leading to you totally losing the plot!
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Post by LJG on Oct 3, 2021 16:12:46 GMT
I guess you could argue none of those original clubs still exist but have all been replaced by new phoenix clubs? What I can't understand is Wael seems to be throwing £m's at the club but we just get progressively worse each season. You can probably count on one hand the number of good performances since we had the new pitch installed. Likewise what's the point in having similar pitches at the Quarters if we don't perform on matchdays at the Mem. As said on another thread Waels out to ruin us along with Lansdown. You stated Waels £20 million buying off debts as credit to him but £20mill is nothing to lansdown. He would be happy to pay that to get rid of us, BRISTOL ROVERS. Are you the one who came up with the fantasy story about how Joey accidentally kicked his wife in the face as well? Why don't we do made up stories about you? Where should we start? You were born in BS3 to your own sister. You got bullied at school because you had six fingers. You go to sleep at night in a red shirt with a robin on the front. Your real name is Ted.
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Post by bobbyjones on Oct 3, 2021 16:17:16 GMT
Attack the post not the truthful poster
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Post by bobbyjones on Oct 3, 2021 16:23:36 GMT
As said on another thread Waels out to ruin us along with Lansdown. You stated Waels £20 million buying off debts as credit to him but £20mill is nothing to lansdown. He would be happy to pay that to get rid of us, BRISTOL ROVERS. So you think Lansdown is funding the Quarters in the background at a cost of £5m+ just to finish us off, wouldn't it be a lot cheaper to just spend nothing and make us still train at Cribbs or similar? I sense supporting Rovers is leading to you totally losing the plot! Makes more sense than alot of your comments, you keep changing the facts and your mind.
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Post by pirate on Oct 3, 2021 16:33:25 GMT
As said on another thread Waels out to ruin us along with Lansdown. You stated Waels £20 million buying off debts as credit to him but £20mill is nothing to lansdown. He would be happy to pay that to get rid of us, BRISTOL ROVERS. So you think Lansdown is funding the Quarters in the background at a cost of £5m+ just to finish us off, wouldn't it be a lot cheaper to just spend nothing and make us still train at Cribbs or similar? I sense supporting Rovers is leading to you totally losing the plot! £5m+ for the quarters? I doubt it's anywhere near that amount, but if it is, we've clearly been ripped off!
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 3, 2021 17:10:42 GMT
So you think Lansdown is funding the Quarters in the background at a cost of £5m+ just to finish us off, wouldn't it be a lot cheaper to just spend nothing and make us still train at Cribbs or similar? I sense supporting Rovers is leading to you totally losing the plot! Makes more sense than alot of your comments, you keep changing the facts and your mind. At least I don't just make total nonsense up! What your posting is bordering on libelous if Lansdown ever wanted to make a point of suing a Gaschat member.
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Post by Topper Gas on Oct 3, 2021 17:13:22 GMT
So you think Lansdown is funding the Quarters in the background at a cost of £5m+ just to finish us off, wouldn't it be a lot cheaper to just spend nothing and make us still train at Cribbs or similar? I sense supporting Rovers is leading to you totally losing the plot! £5m+ for the quarters? I doubt it's anywhere near that amount, but if it is, we've clearly been ripped off! £1m to buy the land, £1m+ on pitches, £2m+ on the buildings, car park etc and the rebuild still to come, I doubt I'm that far out.
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Post by RD on Oct 3, 2021 17:16:55 GMT
£5m+ for the quarters? I doubt it's anywhere near that amount, but if it is, we've clearly been ripped off! £1m to buy the land, £1m+ on pitches, £2m+ on the buildings, car park etc and the rebuild still to come, I doubt I'm that far out. Don’t forget the £15m on grass seed, £43 million on cones and £72 million on replacing lost balls. Crazy sums.
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Post by bobbyjones on Oct 3, 2021 17:23:47 GMT
£5m+ for the quarters? I doubt it's anywhere near that amount, but if it is, we've clearly been ripped off! £1m to buy the land, £1m+ on pitches, £2m+ on the buildings, car park etc and the rebuild still to come, I doubt I'm that far out. And all this without PP.
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Post by LJG on Oct 3, 2021 17:37:43 GMT
£5m+ for the quarters? I doubt it's anywhere near that amount, but if it is, we've clearly been ripped off! £1m to buy the land, £1m+ on pitches, £2m+ on the buildings, car park etc and the rebuild still to come, I doubt I'm that far out. Ah you're playing your game like you did with the UWE where you add £1m every time you talk about it then when you're up high enough you start adding £10m every time. Think you had UWE up at about £180m by the end.
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Post by pirate on Oct 3, 2021 17:44:52 GMT
£5m+ for the quarters? I doubt it's anywhere near that amount, but if it is, we've clearly been ripped off! £1m to buy the land, £1m+ on pitches, £2m+ on the buildings, car park etc and the rebuild still to come, I doubt I'm that far out. It's all guess work, but I'd estimate closer to 500k for the pitches and there is no way it's cost £2m+ to convert an old barn into the gym and to build a 90's style rugby club house.
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Post by bobbyjones on Oct 3, 2021 17:51:57 GMT
It would have been more with hotel etc, better get together with your mate and talk some more bollocks. While your here I am not an other, like you suggest, and have followed The Pirates, not Gas in my days, since 1976 and used to climb over tin sheeting at the tote end to get in. UT Pirates.
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Post by bobbyjones on Oct 3, 2021 18:03:32 GMT
£1m to buy the land, £1m+ on pitches, £2m+ on the buildings, car park etc and the rebuild still to come, I doubt I'm that far out. Ah you're playing your game like you did with the UWE where you add £1m every time you talk about it then when you're up high enough you start adding £10m every time. Think you had UWE up at about £180m by the end. Read previous by your mate TED
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Post by Quarters on Oct 4, 2021 8:21:02 GMT
Back to the game.
Thought Hoole looked very composed when he came on, good defensive header and tackle then an attempt at goal. Will he replace Kilgour Sat in a three or we will suddenly go to a four with Hoole and Browne at full backs, though who will be the two in the middle if Taylor out?
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Post by bluebiro on Oct 4, 2021 8:34:34 GMT
Back to the game. Thought Hoole looked very composed when he came on, good defensive header and tackle then an attempt at goal. Will he replace Kilgour Sat in a three or we will suddenly go to a four with Hoole and Browne at full backs, though who will be the two in the middle if Taylor out? last chance saloon.has to be 4 4 2 Back 4 of hoole anderton harries and Browne if the other Centre backs are unavailable
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