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Post by Icegas on Nov 17, 2021 11:29:03 GMT
Just as JB has got us together and we are playing well and winning games as well as moving up the table that his court dates are coming up and he could be sent to prison and go down leaving us back at square one!
Only at BRFC..
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Post by baggins on Nov 17, 2021 11:29:38 GMT
Just as JB has got us together and we are playing well and winning games as well as moving up the table that his court dates are coming up and he could be sent to prison and go down leaving us back at square one! Only at BRFC.. He won't be sent to prison.
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Post by goodnightirene1883 on Nov 17, 2021 11:31:07 GMT
The case management hearing was due today but I can't find anything about it... usually the press are all over this stuff. Not sure what a case management hearing is all about but wondered if the judge can make a decision to proceed or throw it out?
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Nov 17, 2021 11:45:39 GMT
The case management hearing was due today but I can't find anything about it... usually the press are all over this stuff. Not sure what a case management hearing is all about but wondered if the judge can make a decision to proceed or throw it out? It's possible both cases could fall apart if Stendall won't show and his wife refuses to give evidence.
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Post by goodnightirene1883 on Nov 17, 2021 11:47:24 GMT
The case management hearing was due today but I can't find anything about it... usually the press are all over this stuff. Not sure what a case management hearing is all about but wondered if the judge can make a decision to proceed or throw it out? It's possible both cases could fall apart if Stendall won't show and his wife refuses to give evidence. I was under the impression that the wife refused to give any evidence... that being said, it's just what I read (I think she posted on insta)
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Nov 17, 2021 11:48:58 GMT
It's possible both cases could fall apart if Stendall won't show and his wife refuses to give evidence. I was under the impression that the wife refused to give any evidence... that being said, it's just what I read (I think she posted on insta) Yeah, I believe she won't. That may mean the case falls apart before the actual trial
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Post by wallywalters on Nov 17, 2021 11:50:04 GMT
The case management hearing was due today but I can't find anything about it... usually the press are all over this stuff. Not sure what a case management hearing is all about but wondered if the judge can make a decision to proceed or throw it out? Yes in case management hearings it can be decided by parties including cps that they will not proceed with trial due to lack of evidence , retractions from witnesses / victims etc or new evidence coming to light which casts doubt on the case. It can also go the other way mind with new evidence strengthening the prosecution case. These hearings are usually just a formality to see if defendants pleas have changed or likely to change and to set trial dates when all evidence will be ready by. They only usually last 1 hour maximum.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2021 11:50:30 GMT
If he is convicted, especially for the wife case, then that is much more important than us winning some football matches.
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Post by baggins on Nov 17, 2021 12:07:22 GMT
If he is convicted, especially for the wife case, then that is much more important than us winning some football matches. Not to me it isn't.
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Post by percy on Nov 17, 2021 12:47:04 GMT
I hope we have some sort of plan. Whilst i half expect both cases to be delayed again or maybe even dropped (courts are currently so under-funded, this is highly likely), I hope we have a plan b. There are some experienced heads around the squad who could keep some consistency hopefully and not go for another re-set / "not my squad" scenario. We shouldnt be in this position tho. And whilst I am so pleased for this team of players and energised by their never-say-die attitude recently, when appointing JB you take a huge risk. You live by the sword, you die by the sword as someone on reality tv once said.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2021 12:53:44 GMT
Just as JB has got us together and we are playing well and winning games as well as moving up the table that his court dates are coming up and he could be sent to prison and go down leaving us back at square one! Only at BRFC.. He won't be sent to prison. Guilty and he must go. The owner said so himself
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Post by Dirt Dogg on Nov 17, 2021 12:55:41 GMT
We’re so tinpot we’ll probably have JB managing us through a prison phone with a hotline to the dugout.
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Post by baggins on Nov 17, 2021 12:56:29 GMT
He won't be sent to prison. Guilty and he must go. The owner said so himself Obviously.
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Post by keygas on Nov 17, 2021 13:10:20 GMT
Let’s keep our fingers crossed JB is acquitted, momentum is starting to build & he’s starting to build a side that’s proud to wear the shirt & give it their all, which is all gasheads ever ask for.
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Post by lastminutewinner on Nov 17, 2021 13:52:23 GMT
It's possible both cases could fall apart if Stendall won't show and his wife refuses to give evidence. I was under the impression that the wife refused to give any evidence... that being said, it's just what I read (I think she posted on insta) Cant they use the 999 call as evidence (obvs not knowing if any useful information was disclosed on that call) and police at the scene? Doesn't matter if his wife refuses to give evidence, if there is other proof that an offence was caused then they will pursue it which they are doing. Whether they proceed to court it if it was just some scag from Hartcliffe or the like, I very much doubt
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Post by goodnightirene1883 on Nov 17, 2021 13:54:44 GMT
I was under the impression that the wife refused to give any evidence... that being said, it's just what I read (I think she posted on insta) Cant they use the 999 call as evidence (obvs not knowing if any useful information was disclosed on that call) and police at the scene? Doesn't matter if his wife refuses to give evidence, if there is other proof that an offence was caused then they will pursue it. That my idea of what is happening and the evidence they have based on what I have read
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Nov 17, 2021 14:01:30 GMT
He won't be sent to prison. Guilty and he must go. The owner said so himself I'm not convinced that Wael is not for turning on this matter, if the outcomes go against JB.
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Post by gashead1981 on Nov 17, 2021 14:04:43 GMT
The police/CPS wont need his wife to give evidence. If hes bang to rights of what the police discovered at the scene that evening, then they will prosecute regardless.
That was the change in the law from before where the police couldnt do anything if the spouse didnt want to press charges, but if they turn up and there has been an obvious assault, the police can press the charge using what they see at the scene that evening.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2021 14:14:26 GMT
It's possible both cases could fall apart if Stendall won't show and his wife refuses to give evidence. I was under the impression that the wife refused to give any evidence... that being said, it's just what I read (I think she posted on insta) Worth noting she has since deleted that post.
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Post by orgasmic on Nov 17, 2021 14:16:37 GMT
If he is convicted, especially for the wife case, then that is much more important than us winning some football matches. Not to me it isn't. So Rovers winning some matches is more important to you than (if convicted), punishing a repeat violent offender for what is currently alleged but would have been guilty of grabbing his wife around the throat, throwing her to the floor and repeatedly kicking her in the head? You would prefer that person to continue to be the face of Rovers and be integral in shaping and moulding the lives of numerous impressionable young footballers if it meant winning a few more games?
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