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Post by fordyp on Feb 2, 2022 13:24:41 GMT
What's that got to do with you? IPTV/iFollow is not an alternative to going to games and I do when I can. If I'm not going anyway and the game isn't on iFollow to buy then they lose f*ck all. When did you last go to a game? I'm sure Ifollow is perfect for those abroad, but if it was made legally available there would be plenty of people who in 2002 when there was no such invention who wouldn't have thought twice about going to a game, suddenly aren't attending when the temperature is below 15 degrees and thus its costing the club money. It's more things like kids and household bills that stop me making a 100 mile round trip to watch 4th tier football, thanks. I'll say it again, watching your team on TV is not and never has been anything like a substitute for actually going to a game. |
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Post by Quarters on Feb 2, 2022 14:11:58 GMT
When did you last go to a game? I'm sure Ifollow is perfect for those abroad, but if it was made legally available there would be plenty of people who in 2002 when there was no such invention who wouldn't have thought twice about going to a game, suddenly aren't attending when the temperature is below 15 degrees and thus its costing the club money. It's more things like kids and household bills that stop me making a 100 mile round trip to watch 4th tier football, thanks. I'll say it again, watching your team on TV is not and never has been anything like a substitute for actually going to a game. Costing the club? For those who never go to away games if they follow on VPN and Ifollow then for 23 games that is £230 income! Remember away clubs get no income from away games. |
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Post by baggins on Feb 2, 2022 14:13:41 GMT
In answer to my original post, ifollow for Saturday?
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Post by bidefordgas on Feb 2, 2022 14:17:35 GMT
It's more things like kids and household bills that stop me making a 100 mile round trip to watch 4th tier football, thanks. I'll say it again, watching your team on TV is not and never has been anything like a substitute for actually going to a game. Costing the club? For those who never go to away games if they follow on VPN and Ifollow then for 23 games that is £230 income! Remember away clubs get no income from away games. I was under the impression home teams get all the revenue from passes sold on their own website and the first 500 sold by the away side. Any additional above this figure goes to the away side. I believe this is how it worked for the previous two seasons before this. |
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Post by fordyp on Feb 2, 2022 14:33:49 GMT
It's more things like kids and household bills that stop me making a 100 mile round trip to watch 4th tier football, thanks. I'll say it again, watching your team on TV is not and never has been anything like a substitute for actually going to a game. Costing the club? For those who never go to away games if they follow on VPN and Ifollow then for 23 games that is £230 income! Remember away clubs get no income from away games. Not sure what your point is here, but me watching iFollow is taking absolutely nothing out of the pocket of Wael, I can assure you. |
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Post by keygas on Feb 2, 2022 14:38:58 GMT
Costing the club? For those who never go to away games if they follow on VPN and Ifollow then for 23 games that is £230 income! Remember away clubs get no income from away games. I was under the impression home teams get all the revenue from passes sold on their own website and the first 500 sold by the away side. Any additional above this figure goes to the away side. I believe this is how it worked for the previous two seasons before this. You are correct, away clubs get the revenue above 500 passes , according to Rovers Twitter page for the last away game at Scunthorpe we sold over 1100 passes so we would have got the income from 600+ passes, which the club receives around 80% (£8) for each pass bought. |
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Post by Quarters on Feb 2, 2022 17:44:07 GMT
I was under the impression home teams get all the revenue from passes sold on their own website and the first 500 sold by the away side. Any additional above this figure goes to the away side. I believe this is how it worked for the previous two seasons before this. You are correct, away clubs get the revenue above 500 passes , according to Rovers Twitter page for the last away game at Scunthorpe we sold over 1100 passes so we would have got the income from 600+ passes, which the club receives around 80% (£8) for each pass bought. Sorry was referring to gate receipts income from iFollow is greater than zero. |
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Post by rovers5charlton5 on Feb 2, 2022 18:24:23 GMT
People who actually attend games cost the club more in the form of policing costs and keeping the toilets the regulatory 2 inches deep pi§§.
IFollowers don't but pasties or drinks, so I suppose its swings and roundabouts.
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 2, 2022 19:02:08 GMT
Costing the club? For those who never go to away games if they follow on VPN and Ifollow then for 23 games that is £230 income! Remember away clubs get no income from away games. Not sure what your point is here, but me watching iFollow is taking absolutely nothing out of the pocket of Wael, I can assure you. But you were telling everybody earlier in the thread to use an illegal IPTV stream? Regardless you can't watch every away game for £10 a game, as Saturday games are not shown on iFollow in the UK. |
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Post by gasandelectricity on Feb 2, 2022 19:15:30 GMT
Not allowing supporters to use ifollow is ridiculous. If I’m going to watch a game on ifollow it’s because I can’t make it to the game for some reason. A little box screen, which has one camera only, and lags like feck, is no comparison to seeing hearing breathing smelling the game in person.
Even when Barry has dodgy guts and is stinking out the terrace.
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Post by gulfofaden on Feb 2, 2022 19:45:15 GMT
This is an interesting question.
It gets to the heart of what we like about football.
I have a friend who can watch games on ifollow through a VPN. We went to Swindon, we discussed why he wouldn’t just watch it online.
We agreed that it’s the experience of the game, not the game itself which is the draw. The camaraderie, the magic moments with other fans.
We concluded there isn’t a single away or home game which ifollow would be chosen. He uses ifollow merely for those away games he wouldn’t ever have gone to.
Maybe a bit of bravery on behalf of football to allow streams. I don’t think it will affect gates
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 2, 2022 21:03:43 GMT
Not allowing supporters to use ifollow is ridiculous. If I’m going to watch a game on ifollow it’s because I can’t make it to the game for some reason. A little box screen, which has one camera only, and lags like feck, is no comparison to seeing hearing breathing smelling the game in person. Even when Barry has dodgy guts and is stinking out the terrace. You do realise it's the Sky Sports contract stopping games being shown not the EFL? The issue seems to be what your average football fan would choose to watch at 3pm on a Saturday, a top Premiership game on Sky or a live lower league game, the EFL seem to think some would prefer to watch the former. |
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Post by gasandelectricity on Feb 2, 2022 21:08:07 GMT
Not allowing supporters to use ifollow is ridiculous. If I’m going to watch a game on ifollow it’s because I can’t make it to the game for some reason. A little box screen, which has one camera only, and lags like feck, is no comparison to seeing hearing breathing smelling the game in person. Even when Barry has dodgy guts and is stinking out the terrace. You do realise it's the Sky Sports contract stopping games being shown not the EFL? The issue seems to be what your average football fan would choose to watch at 3pm on a Saturday, a top Premiership game on Sky or a live lower league game, the EFL seem to think some would prefer to watch the former. Who signed the agreement with Sky? Are Sky showing the games? Likewise, when the FA cup is on, does the right holder show the games live? Very rarely. So why stop supporters subscribing legally in the uk? |
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Post by bidefordgas on Feb 2, 2022 21:10:47 GMT
Not allowing supporters to use ifollow is ridiculous. If I’m going to watch a game on ifollow it’s because I can’t make it to the game for some reason. A little box screen, which has one camera only, and lags like feck, is no comparison to seeing hearing breathing smelling the game in person. Even when Barry has dodgy guts and is stinking out the terrace. You do realise it's the Sky Sports contract stopping games being shown not the EFL? The issue seems to be what your average football fan would choose to watch at 3pm on a Saturday, a top Premiership game on Sky or a live lower league game, the EFL seem to think some would prefer to watch the former. But Sky don't show Premiership games at 1500 on a Saturday. Games are either earlier or later kick offs. |
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Post by The Equaliser on Feb 2, 2022 21:17:59 GMT
The big media companies (Sky etc) own football and it’s only getting worse with IFollow seeming a treat for fans who can’t get to the odd away game but I believe it’s more sinister. TV is the winner every time and clubs like ours are made to feel grateful for the crumbs falling from the captains table.
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 2, 2022 21:45:28 GMT
You do realise it's the Sky Sports contract stopping games being shown not the EFL? The issue seems to be what your average football fan would choose to watch at 3pm on a Saturday, a top Premiership game on Sky or a live lower league game, the EFL seem to think some would prefer to watch the former. But Sky don't show Premiership games at 1500 on a Saturday. Games are either earlier or later kick offs. Sky don't show matches as the EFL insisted there was the Saturday afternoon blackout. Given how low attendances are generally in L2 I'm not convinced football fans would prefer going to live game over watching Premiership games on Sky on a Saturday afternoon. |
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Post by A Source (aka Angry Badger) on Feb 2, 2022 22:12:14 GMT
I thought it was the FA but its UEFA who impose the blackout (It was Burnleys idea apparently back in the 60s). Also covers games abroad with the intention that people would watch games live as they won't see any on TV. General consensus now is that attendances would not be affected. If you intend to watch your team live you will.
Only 5 countries unable to watch premier league football at 3pm on a Saturday.
Cuba, Turkmenistan, North Korea, Afghanistan and the United Kingdom
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Post by pepsi on Feb 3, 2022 1:39:02 GMT
Is it really any different to sneaking a view outside a ground without paying to go in? 😂 That's probably illegal as well if it became a big issue for a club! I used to do it when I was a kid at twerton when I was skint. Is it possible to do at the mem ?? 😉 😂 |
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Post by stapletongas on Feb 3, 2022 11:57:14 GMT
I do wonder if ifollow should be made available for all games regardless.
It’s probably a fair observation that those who want to attend home and away games will and any loss in attendance being replaced by any opting to watch at home would be minimal. Also even if there is a minimal loss it will be offset and even have a net profit from everyone subscribing and providing an income stream the Club would otherwise not have received.
I would always attend home matches over and above watching online. However I can never go to away games due to grassroots football commitments on Sat mornings and would rather pay ifollow than listen to the radio, although that’s no reflection on the quality of Radio Bristol coverage.
Time for the EFL to have a review.
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Post by baggins on Feb 3, 2022 12:07:06 GMT
I do wonder if ifollow should be made available for all games regardless. It’s probably a fair observation that those who want to attend home and away games will and any loss in attendance being replaced by any opting to watch at home would be minimal. Also even if there is a minimal loss it will be offset and even have a net profit from everyone subscribing and providing an income stream the Club would otherwise not have received. I would always attend home matches over and above watching online. However I can never go to away games due to grassroots football commitments on Sat mornings and would rather pay ifollow than listen to the radio, although that’s no reflection on the quality of Radio Bristol coverage. Time for the EFL to have a review. Agreed. If they can, most will attend games, home or away as there's nothing quite like a live game, but on days when you can't make either having the option to pay the club money through ifollow must be an advantage to all? |
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