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Post by dudelebowski on Feb 16, 2022 17:05:23 GMT
With respect, ridiculing me and posting sarcastically won’t mean it never happened. And no, Bristol Rovers fans on the whole are not racist or sexist or for that matter homophobic, but believe me we have a few who are, it is getting better thankfully but if you open your eyes you’ll still see it rearing it’s ugly head now and again. I heard both racist and sexist remarks last night against Sutton. "It's a man's game referee!" may seem like an innocent enough comment, but not when I'm with two impressionable girls who both play football. It would be easy for them to feel marginalised and like they don't belong in such an environment. Some guy thought it appropriate to shout "Get back to your own country" at one of the Sutton players - I assume he knew the player wasn't English? It's not the first time I've heard stuff said just because of the colour of a player's skin. I find it interesting that the racial diversity on the pitch is in no way reflected in the crowd. The crowd is predominantly white male partly because comments like the above make it easy to feel marginalised. “Get back to your own country” Jesus fackin Christ, how is anyone in 2022 wired up to think that’s even half acceptable to shout out in public?
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Post by warehamgas on Feb 16, 2022 18:22:54 GMT
Wow, I never knew Bristol Rovers fans were such a bunch of racists and sexists. Glad times are better and everyone can go to football matches without fear or ridicule. Some of the older fans are on here, I wonder what made them chose a path away from bigotry towards the enlightenment of today? With respect, ridiculing me and posting sarcastically won’t mean it never happened. And no, Bristol Rovers fans on the whole are not racist or sexist or for that matter homophobic, but believe me we have a few who are, it is getting better thankfully but if you open your eyes you’ll still see it rearing it’s ugly head now and again. I agree equaliser. But today it’s more about the positive opportunities that exist for everyone to play/ be part of a football team. Back in the day even if you weren’t excluded they may not have been the opportunities for girls to play football in any meaningful way. Today in any town or city there will be a number of opportunities for girls to play. It may be more difficult in rural, less populated areas but year by year it’s a much better picture for all children to access football. Lots of TV broadcasts about girls football, women as pundits, women presenting, access to websites publicising women’s football is all building a much better picture and equality of opportunity for girls and women. And that’s got to be good hasn’t it? UTG!
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Post by gulfofaden on Feb 16, 2022 18:29:02 GMT
I’d like to teach the world to sing, in perfect harmony….
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Post by The Equaliser on Feb 16, 2022 18:31:06 GMT
With respect, ridiculing me and posting sarcastically won’t mean it never happened. And no, Bristol Rovers fans on the whole are not racist or sexist or for that matter homophobic, but believe me we have a few who are, it is getting better thankfully but if you open your eyes you’ll still see it rearing it’s ugly head now and again. I agree equaliser. But today it’s more about the positive opportunities that exist for everyone to play/ be part of a football team. Back in the day even if you weren’t excluded they may not have been the opportunities for girls to play football in any meaningful way. Today in any town or city there will be a number of opportunities for girls to play. It may be more difficult in rural, less populated areas but year by year it’s a much better picture for all children to access football. Lots of TV broadcasts about girls football, women as pundits, women presenting, access to websites publicising women’s football is all building a much better picture and equality of opportunity for girls and women. And that’s got to be good hasn’t it? UTG! Totally agree, apologies if I came across in the wrong way, the world is much better for girls to play etc. I was covering a different angle for spectators 👍
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Post by gulfofaden on Feb 16, 2022 18:36:46 GMT
I heard both racist and sexist remarks last night against Sutton. "It's a man's game referee!" may seem like an innocent enough comment, but not when I'm with two impressionable girls who both play football. It would be easy for them to feel marginalised and like they don't belong in such an environment. Some guy thought it appropriate to shout "Get back to your own country" at one of the Sutton players - I assume he knew the player wasn't English? It's not the first time I've heard stuff said just because of the colour of a player's skin. I find it interesting that the racial diversity on the pitch is in no way reflected in the crowd. The crowd is predominantly white male partly because comments like the above make it easy to feel marginalised. “Get back to your own country” Jesus fackin Christ, how is anyone in 2022 wired up to think that’s even half acceptable to shout out in public? Indeed. It’s a wonder nobody challenged it, because I would, and have. One time I can remember was an old fart saying much worse for that and I gave him an earful. I just find platitudes about it make me a bit queasy. Some of the comments I’ve made aren’t aimed at the idea of tolerance and acceptance, it’s the hobby horse nature of it. It’s a minimum requirement of a human being to not be an asshole and when folks wax lyrical about it, it makes me feel it’s more about winning likes and spouting rhetoric because opposing racism and sexism isn’t anything really to be proud of, it’s the basic requirement for being a decent human being. Hence I will poke a little at lofty monologues on these topics because they are becoming a bit of a cliche. I’m sure they are meant sincerely.
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Post by warehamgas on Feb 16, 2022 18:47:35 GMT
I agree equaliser. But today it’s more about the positive opportunities that exist for everyone to play/ be part of a football team. Back in the day even if you weren’t excluded they may not have been the opportunities for girls to play football in any meaningful way. Today in any town or city there will be a number of opportunities for girls to play. It may be more difficult in rural, less populated areas but year by year it’s a much better picture for all children to access football. Lots of TV broadcasts about girls football, women as pundits, women presenting, access to websites publicising women’s football is all building a much better picture and equality of opportunity for girls and women. And that’s got to be good hasn’t it? UTG! Totally agree, apologies if I came across in the wrong way, the world is much better for girls to play etc. I was covering a different angle for spectators 👍 No need to apologise. I realise you were talking about the spectator pov and the need for all to feel included. But I think the improved opportunities for girls and women in all spheres of football will change attitudes on the terraces as well. It will take time but it will happen and I suspect that will change over the next few years as the opportunities for all groups to access football increases. Of course there will always be those individuals, albeit very few I hope, who will remain blinkered and see football in very narrow terms. #hergametoo 👍 UTG!
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