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Post by frattonender on Apr 3, 2022 21:10:05 GMT
FWIW: I met up with some friends a few weeks ago and as normal we got to talking about football. They are Southampton fans, they know I’ve got an AFCB ST but support Rovers and get up to Bristol as often as family stuff allows. They didn’t even know JB was our manager! Which I thought was even worse than knowing he was! Simply, in the football world I’m not sure BRFC even register with most football fans, certainly not those in the PL. We’re (at the moment) a League 2 club outside the consciousness of most fans. They don’t give a monkey’s about who our manager is or what he’s done. I agree baggins, I’m not sure about an image. Whenever I talk to people and it gets on to football they seem to know us as playing in blue and white quarters and people seem to like us better than the other lot in Bristol! Not sure that counts as an image!! KP, respect as ever, but you go on about “a family club”. I asked on the other place what makes a family club. Only epping over there bothered to answer. Perhaps it’s a tough question but it was a serious question. What do you think makes a “family club?” Serious and genuine question. UTG! As far as Rovers are concerned it's always been one where you could happily attend with your family, which is something I've always done. With regards to Barton when ever anybody outside of Bristol realises I support Rovers I always get stick about having Barton as our manager. I find it hard to believe anybody with a reasonable interest in football doesn't know Barton's our manager.
The bit I've emphasised sums it up really. I work with a few people who are nothing more than casual supporters of a side they picked up when they were younger but talk as though they're dyed-in-the wool fans. I'm not bothered that football isn't a big deal to them, but don't like them making out that it is. (see also: people in the office who pretend to be interested in football during a world cup/euros who have no interest at all, but become experts for three weeks every couple of years).
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Apr 3, 2022 21:22:28 GMT
As far as Rovers are concerned it's always been one where you could happily attend with your family, which is something I've always done. With regards to Barton when ever anybody outside of Bristol realises I support Rovers I always get stick about having Barton as our manager. I find it hard to believe anybody with a reasonable interest in football doesn't know Barton's our manager.
The bit I've emphasised sums it up really. I work with a few people who are nothing more than casual supporters of a side they picked up when they were younger but talk as though they're dyed-in-the wool fans. I'm not bothered that football isn't a big deal to them, but don't like them making out that it is. (see also: people in the office who pretend to be interested in football during a world cup/euros who have no interest at all, but become experts for three weeks every couple of years).
I know people who have season tickets at other clubs, and they were not aware that JB was our manager - I would suggest that they have a reasonable interest in football. We're not the big deal that some of our fans like to think we are.
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Post by warehamgas on Apr 3, 2022 21:40:09 GMT
FWIW: I met up with some friends a few weeks ago and as normal we got to talking about football. They are Southampton fans, they know I’ve got an AFCB ST but support Rovers and get up to Bristol as often as family stuff allows. They didn’t even know JB was our manager! Which I thought was even worse than knowing he was! Simply, in the football world I’m not sure BRFC even register with most football fans, certainly not those in the PL. We’re (at the moment) a League 2 club outside the consciousness of most fans. They don’t give a monkey’s about who our manager is or what he’s done. I agree baggins, I’m not sure about an image. Whenever I talk to people and it gets on to football they seem to know us as playing in blue and white quarters and people seem to like us better than the other lot in Bristol! Not sure that counts as an image!! KP, respect as ever, but you go on about “a family club”. I asked on the other place what makes a family club. Only epping over there bothered to answer. Perhaps it’s a tough question but it was a serious question. What do you think makes a “family club?” Serious and genuine question. UTG! As far as Rovers are concerned it's always been one where you could happily attend with your family, which is something I've always done. With regards to Barton when ever anybody outside of Bristol realises I support Rovers I always get stick about having Barton as our manager. I find it hard to believe anybody with a reasonable interest in football doesn't know Barton's our manager. Lots are still attending with their families, aren’t they? Do you actually get stick? I mean serious stick or is it banter? If you do bad luck. Your experience is obviously different from mine. Yesterday at Dean Court they gave the half time scores for the PL and the Championship. They couldn’t even be a***ed to give the scores of the lower leagues! The top leagues and most fans are not concerned about us lower league clubs. I don’t have an all-singing all-dancing phone so had to ask for the Rovers half time! And the people I was talking about know their football and they don’t give a monkey’s about who our manager is or what he’s done. It means little to the football world. I’ve been to Southampton, AFCB and Weymouth this season and most people don’t realise he’s our manager and those do just laugh but don’t really care. Blimey, reading this looks like I’m supporting JB! I’m not but I don’t think he stops us being a family club not do I think the football world cares a jot about who our manager is which was the original point. UTG!
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Post by frattonender on Apr 3, 2022 21:41:18 GMT
The bit I've emphasised sums it up really. I work with a few people who are nothing more than casual supporters of a side they picked up when they were younger but talk as though they're dyed-in-the wool fans. I'm not bothered that football isn't a big deal to them, but don't like them making out that it is. (see also: people in the office who pretend to be interested in football during a world cup/euros who have no interest at all, but become experts for three weeks every couple of years).
I know people who have season tickets at other clubs, and they were not aware that JB was our manager - I would suggest that they have a reasonable interest in football. We're not the big deal that some of our fans like to think we are. Fair dos and point taken. I think that 'not the big deal' the fans think is probably true of most clubs!
I wouldn't generally expect people to know who was in charge at Pompey at the moment; but I guess given (for right or wrong) the general profile of JB - I'd expect most 'proper' football fans to know he was in charge at the Mem. There are certainly people I know who I reckon would be more aware of who you had in charge than, for example, Coventry in the Championship. I guess it's all relative :-)
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Post by warehamgas on Apr 3, 2022 21:44:04 GMT
FWIW: I met up with some friends a few weeks ago and as normal we got to talking about football. They are Southampton fans, they know I’ve got an AFCB ST but support Rovers and get up to Bristol as often as family stuff allows. They didn’t even know JB was our manager! Which I thought was even worse than knowing he was! Simply, in the football world I’m not sure BRFC even register with most football fans, certainly not those in the PL. We’re (at the moment) a League 2 club outside the consciousness of most fans. They don’t give a monkey’s about who our manager is or what he’s done. I agree baggins, I’m not sure about an image. Whenever I talk to people and it gets on to football they seem to know us as playing in blue and white quarters and people seem to like us better than the other lot in Bristol! Not sure that counts as an image!! KP, respect as ever, but you go on about “a family club”. I asked on the other place what makes a family club. Only epping over there bothered to answer. Perhaps it’s a tough question but it was a serious question. What do you think makes a “family club?” Serious and genuine question. UTG! Under Garner we were a family club.as we had enough clowns on and off the pitch to entertain us They entertained you? 😭😭😭😭 UTG!
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Post by baggins on Apr 4, 2022 4:51:05 GMT
FWIW: I met up with some friends a few weeks ago and as normal we got to talking about football. They are Southampton fans, they know I’ve got an AFCB ST but support Rovers and get up to Bristol as often as family stuff allows. They didn’t even know JB was our manager! Which I thought was even worse than knowing he was! Simply, in the football world I’m not sure BRFC even register with most football fans, certainly not those in the PL. We’re (at the moment) a League 2 club outside the consciousness of most fans. They don’t give a monkey’s about who our manager is or what he’s done. I agree baggins, I’m not sure about an image. Whenever I talk to people and it gets on to football they seem to know us as playing in blue and white quarters and people seem to like us better than the other lot in Bristol! Not sure that counts as an image!! KP, respect as ever, but you go on about “a family club”. I asked on the other place what makes a family club. Only epping over there bothered to answer. Perhaps it’s a tough question but it was a serious question. What do you think makes a “family club?” Serious and genuine question. UTG! As far as Rovers are concerned it's always been one where you could happily attend with your family, which is something I've always done. With regards to Barton when ever anybody outside of Bristol realises I support Rovers I always get stick about having Barton as our manager. I find it hard to believe anybody with a reasonable interest in football doesn't know Barton's our manager. I'm sure most are aware Barton is our Manager, doubt if they care about the image it supposedly gives us, doubt they even know about either of the Court cases.
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Post by bluebiro on Apr 4, 2022 4:57:25 GMT
As far as Rovers are concerned it's always been one where you could happily attend with your family, which is something I've always done. With regards to Barton when ever anybody outside of Bristol realises I support Rovers I always get stick about having Barton as our manager. I find it hard to believe anybody with a reasonable interest in football doesn't know Barton's our manager. Lots are still attending with their families, aren’t they? Do you actually get stick? I mean serious stick or is it banter? If you do bad luck. Your experience is obviously different from mine. Yesterday at Dean Court they gave the half time scores for the PL and the Championship. They couldn’t even be a***ed to give the scores of the lower leagues! The top leagues and most fans are not concerned about us lower league clubs. I don’t have an all-singing all-dancing phone so had to ask for the Rovers half time! And the people I was talking about know their football and they don’t give a monkey’s about who our manager is or what he’s done. It means little to the football world. I’ve been to Southampton, AFCB and Weymouth this season and most people don’t realise he’s our manager and those do just laugh but don’t really care. Blimey, reading this looks like I’m supporting JB! I’m not but I don’t think he stops us being a family club not do I think the football world cares a jot about who our manager is which was the original point. UTG! probably seen more families at the ground this season then in many a year.if anything that part of the fan base is growing
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Post by wertongas on Apr 4, 2022 7:55:24 GMT
I would say we are a welcoming working class club, I wouldn't say we are a family club, there is the small family stand but that is being removed in the stand where I sit you use to be able to bring children along and they could spend time before and at during half time in the Dunford Lounge but fans have been kicked out of there. In the west stand there is not enough seats to bring along the family from time to time , if you are a season ticket holder. Could take the family into the south stand but that is no good if you have a season ticket else where , anyway that is being changed next year. There just isn't the facilities, the club has dropped along way since I started watching when we were in the second tier,this is why we must start building a new stadium or re-developing the Mem ASAP. Every year that goes by without major improvements the club loose more revenue.
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Post by Colyton Gas on Apr 4, 2022 8:14:39 GMT
I would say we are a welcoming working class club, I wouldn't say we are a family club, there is the small family stand but that is being removed in the stand where I sit you use to be able to bring children along and they could spend time before and at during half time in the Dunford Lounge but fans have been kicked out of there. In the west stand there is not enough seats to bring along the family from time to time , if you are a season ticket holder. Could take the family into the south stand but that is know good if you have a season ticket else where anyway that is being changed next year. There just isn't the facilities, the club has dropped along way since I started watching when we were in the second tier,this is why we must start building a new stadium or re-developing the Mem ASAP. Every year that goes by without major improvements the club loose more revenue. 'Be patient' they told me in 1972.'We are extending the Dribuild stand the whole length of the pitch and along where the south tent is now we were told by Geoff Dunford at an open day.'Get your seats booked at Cheltenham for two seasons ' we were told whilst the Mem is re built.'We have several world class stadium construction experts we are liaising with' the new regime told us ,to say nothing of the 'Watertight' UWE' project. Please don't tell me ever again 'To be patient'.I am 76!!!!!!
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Post by meader on Apr 4, 2022 8:55:48 GMT
What ever people say, it’s no doubt that the Mem as it is at present is holding back our football club. We need a new ground now as a matter of urgency. If no land can be found in the next 18 months to 2 years, then we need to completely rebuild the Mem starting with the East (centenery) Stand. Maybe keep the thatchers terrace and build a seated stand above. The current capacity is not fit for purpose. We need action on the ground NOW.
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Post by dudelebowski on Apr 4, 2022 9:29:39 GMT
Rebuild the Mem and we’ll have barely any more potential for growth than we do right now. Except we’ll have a template 15k Lego Stadium like everyone else and that’ll be that for the next 50 years.
Happy to wait as long as it takes to get something proper and for keeps that could potentially take us levels above. The immediate surrounding areas would never handle anymore than 12k turning up every single home game, transport links and the parking are and always have been shocking for any match that exceeds 10k.
Easy to comment as a young(ish) 35 yr old you might say, but anyone over 50/60 would’ve been lucky enough to watch us in the glory days of Eastville so can’t really have it both ways😄
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Post by wertongas on Apr 4, 2022 10:31:58 GMT
Revamp and extend the centenary stand along full length of the east side, put a community gym and coffee shop under part of it, food hall with bar and screens along the back. Get rid of the tents replace them with a new stand that has a small restaurant and bar in the corner perhaps put similar at the other end of the stand for away fans. If we get promoted to the Championship replace Thatchers and old family terrace with a new two tier stand . Use park and ride to reduce traffic on match days or even better buy our own plot of land on the outskirts of Bristol for a car park and lease to City Council for them to use as a park and ride during the week. Job done
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Post by baggins on Apr 4, 2022 11:29:07 GMT
I think everyone's realistic to the new Stadium hardship, getting a site, getting the finance, infrastructure, getting investors on board, but for the love of God can't we spend a bit on the Mem in the meantime?
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Post by wertongas on Apr 4, 2022 11:42:23 GMT
Problem is the owner is throwing good money after bad propping the club up to keep debts down while we play at the Mem in its present form . If all the money that has been thrown at the club to keep us out of trouble financially had been used to develop a stadium increasing club revenue, then Wael would not have to keep bailing us out and he would have something to show for his investment.
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Post by Marshy on Apr 4, 2022 11:48:11 GMT
I think everyone's realistic to the new Stadium hardship, getting a site, getting the finance, infrastructure, getting investors on board, but for the love of God can't we spend a bit on the Mem in the meantime? Get yer wallet out Rothschild.
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Post by baggins on Apr 4, 2022 11:53:58 GMT
Problem is the owner is throwing good money after bad propping the club up to keep debts down while we play at the Mem in its present form . If all the money that has been thrown at the club to keep us out of trouble financially had been used to develop a stadium increasing club revenue, then Wael would not have to keep bailing us out and he would have something to show for his investment. Or, if he hadn't "thrown" money at the club during the lockdown, writing off £35 mil debt, we wouldn't have to worry at all about a new Stadium as there wouldn't be a club to play there.
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Post by lavalamp on Apr 4, 2022 11:58:06 GMT
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Post by gasandelectricity on Apr 4, 2022 12:00:09 GMT
If we redevelop the Mem Wael will be chucking money at the Mem indefinitely anyway.
We need a new stadium elsewhere from the Mem to grow as a club. Otherwise we’ll yoyo between l2-l1 at best and burn cash in the process.
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Post by baggins on Apr 4, 2022 12:14:34 GMT
I think everyone's realistic to the new Stadium hardship, getting a site, getting the finance, infrastructure, getting investors on board, but for the love of God can't we spend a bit on the Mem in the meantime? Get yer wallet out Rothschild. I've em, misplaced it, somewhere.
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Post by toddy1953 on Apr 4, 2022 12:15:31 GMT
After the collapse of the UWE deal, didn’t the club conduct a feasibility study to rebuild the Mem stand by stand? I think the conclusion was that the infrastructure in and around the stadium wouldn’t support this. Didn’t we then go back to UWE & try to revive the deal? Apart from these cosmetic changes, I can’t see what else the club can do really - forgetting the issues around getting the big screen, how long did it take to erect the thing,? Issues with cables I recall, so extending stands etc, with all the H&S & costs involved, seem totally unrealistic to me. Wael seems happy to keep the club afloat, so I would think he has a degree of confidence that his plans for a new stadium - whatever that may be - will bear fruition (no pun intended). Until then we just limp along & live in hope.
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