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Post by aghast on May 9, 2022 18:20:30 GMT
We would have said all the same things as them if roles were reversed.
We would have known it was bollox, but we would have said it regardless.
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Post by yattongas on May 9, 2022 18:27:08 GMT
We would have said all the same things as them if roles were reversed. We would have known it was bollox, but we would have said it regardless. I’m still waiting for the enquiry into the shady going on’s of that 3-0 defeat 25 years ago
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Post by Topper Gas on May 9, 2022 18:45:31 GMT
To be fair Scunthorpe had been so poor all season and took a few hidings with a so-called full-strength side. Hill had started fielding youngsters in their previous games and they had drawn 2 and lost by 1 goal at Bradford. Who's to say he didn't think the youngsters were equally as good or better than the players they were replacing? They'd done okay prior to Saturday. It's similar to our situation last season, who would you choose to play last season, a team of tobacco smoking people stealing a living as footballers of the likes of Martinez? I can't remember anybody complaining about the teams we were putting out last season.
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Post by warehamgas on May 9, 2022 18:57:00 GMT
Take a look at what this belter has written to the EFL; I'm writing to you as a Northampton Town fan. I've purposefully waited a couple of days before contacting you as I didn't want this to be coloured by the range of emotions I was feeling after the unusual events we saw in League 2 on Saturday, but I have now sufficiently calmed down to articulate this in a proper manner. I often get very tired of hearing my children wail about things being unfair and have little time for it. Indeed, only last week I was playing catch with my little girl when she threw the ball about a meter over my head. "That wasn't fair!" I exclaimed, to which she responded, “Life’s not fair, daddy.” She’s only 4, so I’ve a pretty good idea that she’s picked that phrase up from me! Even so, what happened on Saturday…. just wasn’t fair. I’ve no complaints about Bristol Rovers, they simply did what they needed to do to achieve promotion, however I do take exception to the side fielded by Sc***horpe. It included: - 7 teenagers, amongst them… - A 2nd year scholar making his debut - An 18-year-old captain - A 17-year-old goalkeeper making his second ever start. This is taken from section 5 of the EFL Rules and Regulations pertaining to Fixtures: 24 Requirement to Play Full Strength Sides in League Matches 24.1 Each Club shall play its full strength in all Matches played under the auspices of The League unless some satisfactory reason is given. In the event of the explanation not being deemed satisfactory the Board shall refer the matter to a Disciplinary Commission which has the power to impose such penalties as it shall think fit. Guidance From the fourth Thursday in March, any team sheet for a League game should include at least 10 outfield players who featured on the team sheet for the League game before. I appreciate that Sc***horpe fielded a similar (but slightly stronger) team in the previous match against Hartlepool, but that game was a proverbial “dead rubber”; no one minds blooding youngsters in those matches, in fact it’s nice to see, but in games that have a material impact on the outcome of the league, surely there should an ethical imperative to field a full team? Barrow did against us, so why shouldn’t Sc***horpe? Their failure to do so has undermined the integrity of the competition. I genuinely don’t mind losing. I don’t even mind losing out on a promotion spot, but when that loss isn’t inflicted on a level playing field it is very hard to take - I think it’s fair to say it's highly unlikely Bristol Rovers would have won by a seven-goal margin against ANY other club in the division (if they fielded a full team). On a second point, there are rumours circulating that Sc***horpe’s sale of Ryan Loft to Bristol Rovers in January included a clause that stated Sc***horpe would receive further payment should Bristol Rovers achieve promotion to League 1. I’ve no idea if these rumours are true but I’ve seen them mentioned by several sources, including from a reputable local journalist. If this is true, it may or may not have been a factor in the outcome of Saturday’s match, but surely clauses such as this should not be allowed when a transfer involves two clubs playing at the same level, where either team may be able to influence whether that clause is triggered? In either case, what is done is done and Northampton Town now head into the playoffs. I’m certainly not writing this in the expectation of anything changing in terms of league position, however it would be nice to see: a) Ideally some form of sanction against Sc***horpe United b) An acknowledgement from the EFL that events this weekend were not in the spirit of the game, even if they weren’t an outright breach of the rules. c) A review of the existing rules and regulations to see if they can be tightened up, both in regard to fielding weakened teams and in how transfers are allowed to be structured between clubs at the same level. As I say, I appreciate nothing can be done about what has already happened, but measures can be put in place that ensure this sort of farcical situation doesn’t affect other clubs in the future as it seriously undermines the integrity of the sport we all love. Kind Regards, Yes, I saw that. Almost infantile. Blimey it was a nice day yesterday, he must have wasted (I use the word advisedly!) a lot of time doing that. Just for it to be ignored. The Northampton team will have to be cocooned not to be affected by all the crap going on so it’s bound to take their attention away from the play offs. The EFL will do nothing, it would set such a precedent. Oh dear! UTG!
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Post by madgas on May 9, 2022 20:44:43 GMT
Overall I get the Cobblers sentiment.
But they are going disrespectfully far with it. For instance- there bemoaning a keeper that saved 1/2 the shots on target. Saying he looked sh**, actually the lad had an alright game. By contrast it looks like the Barnet keeper saved nowt. 4 shots on target and 3 goals?
There were a couple of duffers. But until half time they were in the mood to spoil the party. Dribbling the ball away for freekicks and the keeper almost got booked for time-wasting. They wanted to wreck it. We just knew 7 might be enough so that's what we did.
We were always likely to get 5-7 goals because we knew we had to.
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Post by Dirt Dogg on May 9, 2022 21:08:22 GMT
Take a look at what this belter has written to the EFL; I'm writing to you as a Northampton Town fan. I've purposefully waited a couple of days before contacting you as I didn't want this to be coloured by the range of emotions I was feeling after the unusual events we saw in League 2 on Saturday, but I have now sufficiently calmed down to articulate this in a proper manner. I often get very tired of hearing my children wail about things being unfair and have little time for it. Indeed, only last week I was playing catch with my little girl when she threw the ball about a meter over my head. "That wasn't fair!" I exclaimed, to which she responded, “Life’s not fair, daddy.” She’s only 4, so I’ve a pretty good idea that she’s picked that phrase up from me! Even so, what happened on Saturday…. just wasn’t fair. I’ve no complaints about Bristol Rovers, they simply did what they needed to do to achieve promotion, however I do take exception to the side fielded by Sc***horpe. It included: - 7 teenagers, amongst them… - A 2nd year scholar making his debut - An 18-year-old captain - A 17-year-old goalkeeper making his second ever start. This is taken from section 5 of the EFL Rules and Regulations pertaining to Fixtures: 24 Requirement to Play Full Strength Sides in League Matches 24.1 Each Club shall play its full strength in all Matches played under the auspices of The League unless some satisfactory reason is given. In the event of the explanation not being deemed satisfactory the Board shall refer the matter to a Disciplinary Commission which has the power to impose such penalties as it shall think fit. Guidance From the fourth Thursday in March, any team sheet for a League game should include at least 10 outfield players who featured on the team sheet for the League game before. I appreciate that Sc***horpe fielded a similar (but slightly stronger) team in the previous match against Hartlepool, but that game was a proverbial “dead rubber”; no one minds blooding youngsters in those matches, in fact it’s nice to see, but in games that have a material impact on the outcome of the league, surely there should an ethical imperative to field a full team? Barrow did against us, so why shouldn’t Sc***horpe? Their failure to do so has undermined the integrity of the competition. I genuinely don’t mind losing. I don’t even mind losing out on a promotion spot, but when that loss isn’t inflicted on a level playing field it is very hard to take - I think it’s fair to say it's highly unlikely Bristol Rovers would have won by a seven-goal margin against ANY other club in the division (if they fielded a full team). On a second point, there are rumours circulating that Sc***horpe’s sale of Ryan Loft to Bristol Rovers in January included a clause that stated Sc***horpe would receive further payment should Bristol Rovers achieve promotion to League 1. I’ve no idea if these rumours are true but I’ve seen them mentioned by several sources, including from a reputable local journalist. If this is true, it may or may not have been a factor in the outcome of Saturday’s match, but surely clauses such as this should not be allowed when a transfer involves two clubs playing at the same level, where either team may be able to influence whether that clause is triggered? In either case, what is done is done and Northampton Town now head into the playoffs. I’m certainly not writing this in the expectation of anything changing in terms of league position, however it would be nice to see: a) Ideally some form of sanction against Sc***horpe United b) An acknowledgement from the EFL that events this weekend were not in the spirit of the game, even if they weren’t an outright breach of the rules. c) A review of the existing rules and regulations to see if they can be tightened up, both in regard to fielding weakened teams and in how transfers are allowed to be structured between clubs at the same level. As I say, I appreciate nothing can be done about what has already happened, but measures can be put in place that ensure this sort of farcical situation doesn’t affect other clubs in the future as it seriously undermines the integrity of the sport we all love. Kind Regards, Gone straight into the junk folder hasn’t it 😂
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Post by Dirt Dogg on May 9, 2022 21:11:08 GMT
What absolute belter on their forum has called for EFL to sanction Scunthorpe, I don’t think that’ll do anything considering they’ve just been relegated from the EFL.
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Post by lisbongas on May 9, 2022 21:24:10 GMT
I can understand the frustration of being a Cobbler fan having just watched your team f××k up but to whine about young players doesn't add up. We have transformed our season largely due to the form of Hoole, Taylor, Connelly and Anderson. Three teenagers and one 20 year old.
Despite the fact we were the best team in the division by a country mile from christmas we can't argue with the fact that Forest Green were better over the course of the season. Northampton similarly can't argue that promotion was taken from them due to just one game.
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Post by neilv93 on May 9, 2022 21:26:44 GMT
Take a look at what this belter has written to the EFL; 24 Requirement to Play Full Strength Sides in League Matches 24.1 Each Club shall play its full strength in all Matches played under the auspices of The League unless some satisfactory reason is given. In the event of the explanation not being deemed satisfactory the Board shall refer the matter to a Disciplinary Commission which has the power to impose such penalties as it shall think fit. Guidance From the fourth Thursday in March, any team sheet for a League game should include at least 10 outfield players who featured on the team sheet for the League game before. Outstanding how he's managed to write a letter of complaint to the EFL about the situation and in his own email, he cites the rules that prove Scunny did nothing wrong LOL. Firstly, the second part is what Scunny did. And secondly, the bold part - their form improved under the kids and more importantly, Keith Hill is right to say that the current pros on the books won't be under contract next season so he's correct to give the youngsters a go to see who can cut it and who can't. Phenomenal.
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Post by Blackbeard on May 9, 2022 22:26:44 GMT
If you really want to hear what salty sounds like, have a listen to this post-match on BBC Radio Northampton www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0c2h0z4First 15 mins is the end of the Rovers commentary, but listen afterwards. Spend an hour taking about Scunthorpe and sporting integrity. Nothing about their sides tactics when we went 3/4/5-0 up… Spot on they bottled it and rolled the dice against us nailing the 7 any team with some attacking nous would have just gone for it. Their coaches bottled it for fear of shipping another sh** team sh** club and they think they are the best now “Bristol “ are gone I’m thinking Port Vale might regroup and have a go . Think this will shatter Northampton
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Post by brfcdan90 on May 9, 2022 22:49:19 GMT
Scunthorpe have been awful all season before our game they had conceded 83 goals they have conceded 4 in 5 games 5 in 1 game and 6 in 1 game so to conceded 7 really was not out of the question regardless on the team they played.
In the Harrogate game they were 5-0 down at half time once your at a scoreline like that in many games you take your foot off the gas we knew we had to get 7 or 8 so we went for it.
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Post by oldie on May 10, 2022 6:41:08 GMT
I can understand the frustration of being a Cobbler fan having just watched your team f××k up but to whine about young players doesn't add up. We have transformed our season largely due to the form of Hoole, Taylor, Connelly and Anderson. Three teenagers and one 20 year old. Despite the fact we were the best team in the division by a country mile from christmas we can't argue with the fact that Forest Green were better over the course of the season. Northampton similarly can't argue that promotion was taken from them due to just one game. That's a good point
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Post by trevorgas on May 10, 2022 7:06:07 GMT
I can understand the frustration of being a Cobbler fan having just watched your team f××k up but to whine about young players doesn't add up. We have transformed our season largely due to the form of Hoole, Taylor, Connelly and Anderson. Three teenagers and one 20 year old. Despite the fact we were the best team in the division by a country mile from christmas we can't argue with the fact that Forest Green were better over the course of the season. Northampton similarly can't argue that promotion was taken from them due to just one game. That's a good point Would Northampton complain if half the team were over 35?
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2022 7:06:45 GMT
My favourite one is some absolute whopper claiming that be played 45 games and a bye. Yeah okay, and those 45 games included 2 games where we took 6 points off you, which is funnily enough 2 more points than they took from Scunthorpe. Thick lady gardens.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2022 7:09:18 GMT
A lot of their comments are about the keeper. Yeah his approach to the free kick was awful but he made 7 saves ffs and did everything he could to waste time, including stopping collins and thomas grabbing the ball after we scored.
Had we not scored the 7th they would be calling him a hero for the one where he knocked thomas flying.
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Post by thegasman on May 10, 2022 8:26:29 GMT
To be fair Scunthorpe had been so poor all season and took a few hidings with a so-called full-strength side. Hill had started fielding youngsters in their previous games and they had drawn 2 and lost by 1 goal at Bradford. Who's to say he didn't think the youngsters were equally as good or better than the players they were replacing? They'd done okay prior to Saturday. It's similar to our situation last season, who would you choose to play last season, a team of tobacco smoking people stealing a living as footballers of the likes of Martinez? I can't remember anybody complaining about the teams we were putting out last season. That is a bit uncalled for, and downright wrong. You should issue an apology.I can guarantee you Pablo does not and has never smoked, (or used "Snus" which is akin to chewing tobacco). He is one of the most dedicated footballers I have ever looked after. When he came on against Oxford, just like all the younger players, worked his balls off, and looked what happened. Like any other player, if the manager chooses to play them out of position, then it takes game time to adjust, unfortunately he has never been afforded that game time.
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Post by baggins on May 10, 2022 8:38:07 GMT
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Post by stapletongas on May 10, 2022 8:59:26 GMT
A lot of their comments are about the keeper. Yeah his approach to the free kick was awful but he made 7 saves ffs and did everything he could to waste time, including stopping collins and thomas grabbing the ball after we scored. Had we not scored the 7th they would be calling him a hero for the one where he knocked thomas flying. The freekick was unstoppable. There's footage on youtube from a Scunthorpe fan looking straight down the pitch. Watch that ball curl and dip! Footage already in a thread here somewhere
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Post by bluebiro on May 10, 2022 9:31:03 GMT
If they hadn't played a mix of wrestling with rugby and concentrated on playing football they may have gone up over the season. Their way hasn't changed in years and one of the reasons they will always he a horrible little club in the middle of nowhere
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Post by woolavingtonpirate on May 10, 2022 10:47:30 GMT
I know scunthorpe are bad, but I thought they had a good go. The lad in goal did everything he could, made some good saves. I honestly think we were just that good on the day, any team, including Northampton would of stood no chance. We moved the ball around so well they were chasing shadows second half, absolutely shattered. I can understand the disappointment from the cobblers fans, but some of those comments!? We went up fair and square, scunthorpe played the strongest team they had available,thats the way the cookie crumbles as they say.
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