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Post by canberragas69 on Jul 24, 2022 16:34:48 GMT
I have not been a fan of JB. Intially, I was unconvinced about him as a manager; he didn't stop us going down and our start to last season was unimpressive. Unsurprisingly, I changed my mind after he transformed the football, the team and the results. The Scunthorpe match will remain a cherished memory for as long as I am capable of thinking. However, like some others, I was less than enamoured about aspects of his character. In particular, the still outstanding court case about his putative assault on his wife remains very concerning.
None of the previous paragraph is meant to rehearse old arguments, rather my aim is to set the context for what follows. A couple of weeks ago I came across his autobiography, No Nonsense, remaindered for £1.50 in Poundland. I bought it, expecting the usual sort of hagiography. I was wrong, maybe about a good few things. The first thing to say is that, if you haven't read it you should. It is very well written, with the help of a ghostwriter, and consistently interesting. It iseems to me an attempt to be honest about his career and his life. It certainly doesn't gloss-over the large number of 'mistakes' he has made. When I had finished it, I felt I had a good insight into what he is like and why he is as he is. In addition, I found I agreed with much he said about football, and how it is being ruined by money/commodification (almost as good as David Goldblatt), and about politics (Reublicanism and beyond).
If his court case goes ahead and he is found guilty I still think he should go, But, reading the book I now understand him much better and, particularly, I can understand why he has the players respect and is good at encouraging team -spirit.
It is possible that the autobiography has been discussed here before and I missed it, but whatever, I encourage all Gasheads to read it.
Onwards and Upwards.
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Post by canberragas69 on Jul 24, 2022 21:06:38 GMT
I surprised there are no res[ponse to this, has anyone else read it. It's worth the effort.
Onwards and upwards.
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Post by dudelebowski on Jul 24, 2022 21:10:36 GMT
I haven’t.
But now may have too.
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Post by oasisgas on Jul 24, 2022 21:13:33 GMT
I'm not a massive book reader but got it around a year ago and got through 1/3 of it and it was so good upto the point I got to I have saved the rest of the book for my 12 hour flight in October 👍👍
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jul 24, 2022 21:21:40 GMT
Not a fan of autobiography's
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Post by yattongas on Jul 24, 2022 21:22:14 GMT
Yeah I’ve read it . Thought it was ok but he tries to paint himself in a flattering light . Tries to gloss over his misdemeanours or justify them .
He definitely loves his football and his passion for it shines through alongside his knowledge of the game .
(I paid £7.50 on Amazon ! 😦)
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jul 24, 2022 21:23:42 GMT
Yeah I’ve read it . Thought it was ok but he tries to paint himself in a flattering light . Tries to gloss over his misdemeanours or justify them . He definitely loves his football and his passion for it shines through alongside his knowledge of the game . (I paid £7.50 on Amazon ! 😦) And that's why I don't like autobiographies, of course he's going to paint himself in a flattering light. |
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Post by dudelebowski on Jul 24, 2022 21:27:32 GMT
Yeah I’ve read it . Thought it was ok but he tries to paint himself in a flattering light . Tries to gloss over his misdemeanours or justify them . He definitely loves his football and his passion for it shines through alongside his knowledge of the game . (I paid £7.50 on Amazon ! 😦) And that's why I don't like autobiographies, of course he's going to paint himself in a flattering light. Twice you’ve said that now. As with everything, I’m inclined to believe you’ve actually read it more than 3 times and it sits proudly front and centre of your packed book shelf. Full of Auto’s |
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Post by yattongas on Jul 24, 2022 21:31:43 GMT
The first person that replies to this post I’ll send them my copy of the book to read/keep on my return from holiday . Gratis 👍
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jul 24, 2022 21:33:04 GMT
The first person that replies to this post I’ll send them my copy of the book to read/keep on my return from holiday . Gratis 👍 Boom! |
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Post by yattongas on Jul 24, 2022 21:35:13 GMT
The first person that replies to this post I’ll send them my copy of the book to read/keep on my return from holiday . Gratis 👍 Boom! Dm your address and I’ll post it when I get back |
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Jul 24, 2022 22:02:00 GMT
I bought it for my son when it first came out, I'll hunt it down and have a read.
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Post by Gassy on Jul 24, 2022 22:43:01 GMT
Haven’t read it but know a couple of colleagues (non-rovers fans) who have and they loved it.
I think like us when he first came in, they were shocked how intelligent he is and how well he can actually come across
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Post by Gasshole on Jul 25, 2022 0:26:46 GMT
Is it available in Audio book format ? I’m busy AF.
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Post by wallywalters on Jul 25, 2022 4:28:34 GMT
It’s a brilliant read. I didn’t like Barton much before he joined the gas but it changed my opinion on him.
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Post by GeriatricGas on Jul 25, 2022 4:48:42 GMT
I have read it and thought it a strange mix of real life and philosophical rambling. There is no doubt that JB has a passion for "the beautiful game." He comes over as an articulate, intelligent man who recognises that he is flawed, as we all are to some extent. His formative years have undoubtedly left their mark. However, we do not have to be a casualty of our past. Is he an effective Manager? A resounding - yes. Is he a 'good human being'? ........
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Post by canberragas69 on Jul 25, 2022 6:03:54 GMT
I'm surprised at some of the responses. I thought it would be largely self-justification, but it really isn't; he acknowledges most of his faults, although it doesn't deal with the last two court cases. It is also very well written, and I say that as someone who has made much of his living out of writing. It certainly gives a very good insight into his football brain and how he man-manages.
I'm not into auto-biographies either, but I can really recommend this one. It doesn't really mean I like him much more (as a person), but I certainly understand him better. I've even given it to my wife, not really a football fan, to read, so we will see.
Onwards and upwards.
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Post by rememberhalifax on Jul 25, 2022 8:36:03 GMT
I have not been a fan of JB. Intially, I was unconvinced about him as a manager; he didn't stop us going down and our start to last season was unimpressive. Unsurprisingly, I changed my mind after he transformed the football, the team and the results. The Scunthorpe match will remain a cherished memory for as long as I am capable of thinking. However, like some others, I was less than enamoured about aspects of his character. In particular, the still outstanding court case about his putative assault on his wife remains very concerning.
None of the previous paragraph is meant to rehearse old arguments, rather my aim is to set the context for what follows. A couple of weeks ago I came across his autobiography, No Nonsense, remaindered for £1.50 in Poundland. I bought it, expecting the usual sort of hagiography. I was wrong, maybe about a good few things. The first thing to say is that, if you haven't read it you should. It is very well written, with the help of a ghostwriter, and consistently interesting. It iseems to me an attempt to be honest about his career and his life. It certainly doesn't gloss-over the large number of 'mistakes' he has made. When I had finished it, I felt I had a good insight into what he is like and why he is as he is. In addition, I found I agreed with much he said about football, and how it is being ruined by money/commodification (almost as good as David Goldblatt), and about politics (Reublicanism and beyond).
If his court case goes ahead and he is found guilty I still think he should go, But, reading the book I now understand him much better and, particularly, I can understand why he has the players respect and is good at encouraging team -spirit.
It is possible that the autobiography has been discussed here before and I missed it, but whatever, I encourage all Gasheads to read it.
Onwards and Upwards.
You are right ,it has been discussed before but prob not in it's own right. I read it when he was appointed to get a better understanding of the man that is JB. I was happy when he was appointed because though he annoyed the hell out of me as a player i thought he had made a good fist of Fleetwood job and could do a good job with us. I have said a few times now that the book was an eye opener and an insight into the kind of upbringing and environment JB was raised in, one in which many on here will not be familiar with. I do not agree with those who say he glosses over his past or justifies it but he does explain 'why' and gives reasons for it, so yes it left me with a better understanding of the man and what made him, and a new respect for his football philosophy. Since joining us he has not let the club down by his behaviour IMHO, despite great provocation wherever he goes and i hope he can continue in that vein, of course it remains to be seen what the outcome of the domestic case surrounding him will be, it has dragged on and on and i do not wish to trivialise it in any way but family parties and p-ss ups which get out of hand are not uncommon are they? I believe JB will take this club on a upwards journey , just stay cool JB, and let the team answer your critics on the field, up the Rovers! |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2022 9:16:21 GMT
Yeah I’ve read it . Thought it was ok but he tries to paint himself in a flattering light . Tries to gloss over his misdemeanours or justify them . He definitely loves his football and his passion for it shines through alongside his knowledge of the game . (I paid £7.50 on Amazon ! 😦) And that's why I don't like autobiographies, of course he's going to paint himself in a flattering light. I don't like autobiographies for the same reason. Interesting to note that Barton sacked two ghost writers before he finished the book himself. |
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Post by Gaswood on Jul 25, 2022 9:26:19 GMT
Is it available in Audio book format ? I’m busy AF. Yes it is mate, I got it on Audible. It’s actually Barton that reads it too. |
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