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Post by wellsgas on Jul 31, 2022 1:05:09 GMT
Two things stuck out for me today.
1. As others have mentioned, Westbrook = non existent. May as well have played with 10.
2. I could not believe Barton's praise of Hoole post match saying he coped well with Matt. IMO, Matt was absolutely destructive today, gave a platform for FGR to build off all day long and quite frankly bullied us from start to finish. It's obvious that Kilgour isn't in Barton's plans long term, which I don't necessarily disagree with, however, asking Hoole and Connoly to handle Matt today was the wrong decision. Barton has missed a trick there massively and should have used Kilgour to nullify Matt. Game could have been much different IMO.
Hoole and Connolly too similar i.e they are readers/sweepers at the back. Dominant centre half needed ASAP which, in the mean time, should be Kilgour.
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Post by Gastafari on Jul 31, 2022 2:01:39 GMT
For me Barton lost a lot of hard earned respect with his comments on Trevor Clark, who I thought was one of our better performers today. What rankled me most about Barton's comments on Clarke was his opening 'If you'd had said to me at the end of last season that Trevor Clarke was going to be in the starting 11 on the first day of the season, I'd have said my god we must have had a bad summer' To call publicly call out a player like that who did well for us last season, signed a new contract, then did alright today, struck me as frankly quite insulting. Tbf Barton has done it on a few occasions. It's his style of man management imo. He did it with Max Ehmer when he first took over. He did it with Luke Thomas last season when he made the comments about 'Not being wired up right' Now with Trevor Clarke I guess it goes 1 of 2 ways. You end up like Max Ehmer or it gives you a kick up the arse and you see a massive improvement like Luke Thomas
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Post by dudelebowski on Jul 31, 2022 2:58:48 GMT
Have just seen the lowlights.
I’m back row of the East Terrace in line with the pen spot, was certain their winner was a spawny attempted cross come shot. Couldn’t have been more wrong. That’s an absolute worldie ping! Turned it round the corner & perfectly into the only spot he’s going to score.
Well annoying!
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Post by p4perlant3rn on Jul 31, 2022 5:40:04 GMT
The morning after the 3pm kick off before - a disappointing, but not particularly unexpected, result to start another season. The poor summer of recruitment so far left us woefully short yesterday.
Westbrooke has clearly been designated the scapegoat, but for me was no worse than a number of other players on the pitch, Rossiter being an obvious one.
My biggest frustration was that we stuck with the 4-2-4 formation after scoring the equaliser, leaving Evans and Rossiter massively exposed in the centre of midfield. I felt we should have tried to steady the ship and take what would have been a slight underserved point which would have been a decent outcome in the circumstances.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 31, 2022 6:55:22 GMT
I said the same thing last night, the obvious one was to bring on Whelan for Marquis, I sense we'd all now be content with a point.
Next week now becomes a game we can't afford to lose.
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Post by Gassy on Jul 31, 2022 7:00:55 GMT
I said the same thing last night, the obvious one was to bring on Whelan for Marquis, I sense we'd all now be content with a point. Next week now becomes a game we can't afford to lose.Bit dramatic for the 2nd game of the season
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jul 31, 2022 7:24:51 GMT
The morning after the 3pm kick off before - a disappointing, but not particularly unexpected, result to start another season. The poor summer of recruitment so far left us woefully short yesterday. Westbrooke has clearly been designated the scapegoat, but for me was no worse than a number of other players on the pitch, Rossiter being an obvious one. My biggest frustration was that we stuck with the 4-2-4 formation after scoring the equaliser, leaving Evans and Rossiter massively exposed in the centre of midfield. I felt we should have tried to steady the ship and take what would have been a slight underserved point which would have been a decent outcome in the circumstances. As said previously, Westbrooke has consistently performed like that. Rossiter for one game. That is the difference. Every man and his dog thought Westbrooke would be sh** yesterday. And shock horror he was. That is why we are frustrated. As for settling for a point, easy in hindsight but that is very negative at home against a team who are expected to be down there. I don't know how fit Whelan was and to be honest I frankly don't care, I would have started him in front of Westbrooke and we might not have been behind in the first place.
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Post by trueblur4u on Jul 31, 2022 7:32:22 GMT
It will most likely take the usual ten or so games for Rovers to get going!
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Post by trueblur4u on Jul 31, 2022 7:33:07 GMT
It will most likely take the usual ten or so games for Rovers to get going!
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 31, 2022 7:33:25 GMT
I said the same thing last night, the obvious one was to bring on Whelan for Marquis, I sense we'd all now be content with a point. Next week now becomes a game we can't afford to lose.Bit dramatic for the 2nd game of the season What's dramatic, we don't want to go into games v Oxford, Barnsley & Pompey with two losses. JB wants to stop messing about penny pinching and sign some decent players.
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Post by trueblur4u on Jul 31, 2022 7:34:47 GMT
It will most likely take the usual ten or so games for Rovers to get going!
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Post by aforce on Jul 31, 2022 7:38:29 GMT
Really disappointed with rossiter he looks a league two player at best. Is he signed because he is joeys mate? Need coutts and Finley back asap in that middle
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jul 31, 2022 7:45:12 GMT
It will most likely take the usual ten or so games for Rovers to get going! Are you gonna write that ten times too 🙈
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jul 31, 2022 7:46:26 GMT
Really disappointed with rossiter he looks a league two player at best. Is he signed because he is joeys mate? Need coutts and Finley back asap in that middle Does Joey seem the sort of manager who is just going to sign his mates? To make a judgement like that after one game is a bit premature. The benefit of the doubt for me, he seemed to be lacking match fitness. Didn't look v sharp at all. I have a feeling he might take a while to get going.
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Post by WeAreTheGas on Jul 31, 2022 7:47:09 GMT
Next week now becomes a game we can't afford to lose. 😂 True. You have to fear the drop is inevitable for Rovers this season if we lose next week with only 132 points left to play for after that game.
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Post by bidefordgas on Jul 31, 2022 7:55:10 GMT
Really disappointed with rossiter he looks a league two player at best. Is he signed because he is joeys mate? Need coutts and Finley back asap in that middle Where have we heard that before? Just remembered when we signed Coutts and Finley, Joeys mates and we know how they turned out!
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Post by oldie on Jul 31, 2022 7:56:10 GMT
Really disappointed with rossiter he looks a league two player at best. Is he signed because he is joeys mate? Need coutts and Finley back asap in that middle Does Joey seem the sort of manager who is just going to sign his mates? To make a judgement like that after one game is a bit premature. The benefit of the doubt for me, he seemed to be lacking match fitness. Didn't look v sharp at all. I have a feeling he might take a while to get going. Why do we sign players who are unfit and not ready to start the football season? We knew Coutts was suspended for the first three games, but here we are playing a player who appears unfit and another who has failed for us previously. What did we expect to happen? We have not replaced Taylor at centre back so what do we do? Play a youngster who has just had his breakthrough season at RB at centre back...really? The less said about the manager's comments on about LB Clarke the better, after he praised him to high high heaven when he awarded him an extended contract earlier this summer. It's only one game, but it's another p*ss poor start with the team not looking prepared and ready to go.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 31, 2022 8:07:25 GMT
The morning after the 3pm kick off before - a disappointing, but not particularly unexpected, result to start another season. The poor summer of recruitment so far left us woefully short yesterday. Westbrooke has clearly been designated the scapegoat, but for me was no worse than a number of other players on the pitch, Rossiter being an obvious one. My biggest frustration was that we stuck with the 4-2-4 formation after scoring the equaliser, leaving Evans and Rossiter massively exposed in the centre of midfield. I felt we should have tried to steady the ship and take what would have been a slight underserved point which would have been a decent outcome in the circumstances. As said previously, Westbrooke has consistently performed like that. Rossiter for one game. That is the difference. Every man and his dog thought Westbrooke would be sh** yesterday. And shock horror he was. That is why we are frustrated. As for settling for a point, easy in hindsight but that is very negative at home against a team who are expected to be down there. I don't know how fit Whelan was and to be honest I frankly don't care, I would have started him in front of Westbrooke and we might not have been behind in the first place. What I don't understand is every manager says players need a good pre-season, then Whelan just racks up without having had any pre-season. Although I guess if we're hoping for a 38 year old to help us out in our first match, then it shows the mess we're in.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jul 31, 2022 8:18:05 GMT
As said previously, Westbrooke has consistently performed like that. Rossiter for one game. That is the difference. Every man and his dog thought Westbrooke would be sh** yesterday. And shock horror he was. That is why we are frustrated. As for settling for a point, easy in hindsight but that is very negative at home against a team who are expected to be down there. I don't know how fit Whelan was and to be honest I frankly don't care, I would have started him in front of Westbrooke and we might not have been behind in the first place. What I don't understand is every manager says players need a good pre-season, then Whelan just racks up without having had any pre-season. Although I guess if we're hoping for a 38 year old to help us out in our first match, then it shows the mess we're in. The same 38 year old who's last competitive game was in a 7-0 win to send us up? Some people have very short memories..
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Post by keygas on Jul 31, 2022 8:39:25 GMT
As disappointing as yesterday’s performance was especially after the opening 30 minutes, to have not only Coutts missing through suspension but also the energy & ability to break up opposition attacks in Sam Finley, we we’re always going to be struggling in the middle of the park. JB has been saying for the last few weeks that we are 5-6 players short & yesterday performance definitely showed that he’s right, let’s hope that a few of his targets come to fruition in the next couple of weeks .
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