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Post by keygas on Sept 4, 2022 21:17:56 GMT
It will be good if we can get McCormick & Evans in the side together, that they share the set pieces, just to vary it up a bit. At the moment it’s getting like the old days when Chris Lines was always on free kicks & corners duty.
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 4, 2022 21:33:14 GMT
Finley was nowhere near Weir when he scored, Gordon was marking him but moved to cover the second player at the corner leaving him unmarked, when he got the ball the first Rovers player to try and close him down was Evans, with Finley marking another player in the box. We were poorly organised at the corner as somebody should have been picking up the second player at the corner, which would have then left Gordon to continue to mark Weir. Surely the team must watch video's of the matches? We make the same mistakes on corners every game. The goal on Saturday was the same as the FGR corner in that the player had all the time in the world to pick his spot with nobody within yards of him. It would be interesting to see how many goals we have conceded from corners this season. It's odd they seem to get caught out by the opposition having two players at a corner, perhaps they get so used to defending against Coutts taking them in training, that they then forget other clubs can very their corner routines.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Sept 5, 2022 10:06:05 GMT
Finley was nowhere near Weir when he scored, Gordon was marking him but moved to cover the second player at the corner leaving him unmarked, when he got the ball the first Rovers player to try and close him down was Evans, with Finley marking another player in the box. We were poorly organised at the corner as somebody should have been picking up the second player at the corner, which would have then left Gordon to continue to mark Weir. Surely the team must watch video's of the matches? We make the same mistakes on corners every game. The goal on Saturday was the same as the FGR corner in that the player had all the time in the world to pick his spot with nobody within yards of him. It would be interesting to see how many goals we have conceded from corners this season. ....or any set piece for that matter!? Evans was nowhere at Pompey when matey powered in the first.
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Sept 5, 2022 10:14:42 GMT
Just a footnote (as I haven't trawled through the threads) credit to the Morecambe goalkeeper whom went off.... Connor Ripley.
He was the Keep away at Salford last season, where upon apart from enjoying some mutually witty banter with us, he was instrumental in stopping the game at the earliest point because we had a medical emergency in the away end.
I think he applauded us at the end, too. Not sure on that one though.
I'd hoped we could reciprocate when we played them at home back in April, but research showed he was on emergency loan from PNE.
Good on ya, lad.....as opposed to his replacement.
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Post by Gaswood on Sept 5, 2022 10:39:20 GMT
Just a footnote (as I haven't trawled through the threads) credit to the Morecambe goalkeeper whom went off.... Connor Ripley. He was the Keep away at Salford last season, where upon apart from enjoying some mutually witty banter with us, he was instrumental in stopping the game at the earliest point because we had a medical emergency in the away end. I think he applauded us at the end, too. Not sure on that one though. I'd hoped we could reciprocate when we played them at home back in April, but research showed he was on emergency loan from PNE. Good on ya, lad.....as opposed to his replacement. Yeah, agreed. I was up at Salford last year and he got a lot of abuse but took it well. He’s a good keeper and if it wasn’t for us having Belly and Anssi then I’d have wanted us to go in for him when he was released by PNE in the Summer.
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Post by socrates on Sept 5, 2022 11:04:21 GMT
Just a footnote (as I haven't trawled through the threads) credit to the Morecambe goalkeeper whom went off.... Connor Ripley. He was the Keep away at Salford last season, where upon apart from enjoying some mutually witty banter with us, he was instrumental in stopping the game at the earliest point because we had a medical emergency in the away end. I think he applauded us at the end, too. Not sure on that one though. I'd hoped we could reciprocate when we played them at home back in April, but research showed he was on emergency loan from PNE. Good on ya, lad.....as opposed to his replacement. I didn’t know about that fair play to him, I certainly think he had a good game on Saturday too. Very disappointing to not get the three points but we hit the post twice and the keeper made some good saves. On another day it could have been 5-2 so at least were creating chances. It’s at the other end I’m more worried about.
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Post by baggins on Sept 5, 2022 11:38:09 GMT
6 minutes injury time? Took that long for the keeper replacement, what happened to the rest of it?
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Post by GasAttacK on Sept 5, 2022 11:47:01 GMT
6 minutes injury time? Took that long for the keeper replacement, what happened to the rest of it? I agree. From the time the keeper first went down, the physio coming on, the treatment, the games restarting was about 3-4 minutes. Then the lengthy substitution as he hobbled off and Smith came on chatting to his teammates was nearly 2 minutes. So that alone accounts for 5-6 minutes. I'm not sure how many other substitutions took place , 8 or 9? Plus time wasting and other stoppages. I thought there would be at least 9 minutes.
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Post by baggins on Sept 5, 2022 11:51:26 GMT
6 minutes injury time? Took that long for the keeper replacement, what happened to the rest of it? I agree. From the time the keeper first went down, the physio coming on, the treatment, the games restarting was about 3-4 minutes. Then the lengthy substitution as he hobbled off and Smith came on chatting to his teammates was nearly 2 minutes. So that alone accounts for 5-6 minutes. I'm not sure how many other substitutions took place , 8 or 9? Plus time wasting and other stoppages. I thought there would be at least 9 minutes. If I remember correctly, we subbed 5, they subbed 4. That should be at least 8 for that, plus other stoppages. Is there any point in a 4th Official?
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Post by Gaswood on Sept 5, 2022 11:57:17 GMT
I might be wrong, but don’t think it’s an additional minute per person being subbed, more the instance of making substitutions. I agree that it should have been way more added time though!
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Post by lastminutewinner on Sept 5, 2022 12:33:13 GMT
6 minutes injury time? Took that long for the keeper replacement, what happened to the rest of it? I agree. From the time the keeper first went down, the physio coming on, the treatment, the games restarting was about 3-4 minutes. Then the lengthy substitution as he hobbled off and Smith came on chatting to his teammates was nearly 2 minutes. So that alone accounts for 5-6 minutes. I'm not sure how many other substitutions took place , 8 or 9? Plus time wasting and other stoppages. I thought there would be at least 9 minutes. I also saw one of their guys blatantly kick the ball away in front of the West Stand. I see this regularly but only usually see a yellow if we do it. So inconsistent.
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Post by GasAttacK on Sept 5, 2022 12:41:49 GMT
I agree. From the time the keeper first went down, the physio coming on, the treatment, the games restarting was about 3-4 minutes. Then the lengthy substitution as he hobbled off and Smith came on chatting to his teammates was nearly 2 minutes. So that alone accounts for 5-6 minutes. I'm not sure how many other substitutions took place , 8 or 9? Plus time wasting and other stoppages. I thought there would be at least 9 minutes. I also saw one of their guys blatantly kick the ball away in front of the West Stand. I see this regularly but only usually see a yellow if we do it. So inconsistent. Yep, that actually happened multiple times and the ref did nothing. Don't mind if he adds the time on at the end but he clearly didn't. I wouldn't have been surprised if he'd added on anything between 9 & 12 minutes, 6 was ridiculous; the substitutions alone took that long.
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Post by baggins on Sept 5, 2022 12:45:17 GMT
I agree. From the time the keeper first went down, the physio coming on, the treatment, the games restarting was about 3-4 minutes. Then the lengthy substitution as he hobbled off and Smith came on chatting to his teammates was nearly 2 minutes. So that alone accounts for 5-6 minutes. I'm not sure how many other substitutions took place , 8 or 9? Plus time wasting and other stoppages. I thought there would be at least 9 minutes. I also saw one of their guys blatantly kick the ball away in front of the West Stand. I see this regularly but only usually see a yellow if we do it. So inconsistent. Not just kicking the ball away but I thought immediate 10 yds from a free kick as well? They stopped every quick take by standing in front of the ball multiple times.
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Post by eric on Sept 5, 2022 12:55:00 GMT
I might be wrong, but don’t think it’s an additional minute per person being subbed, more the instance of making substitutions. I agree that it should have been way more added time though! 30 seconds for subs isn’t it? With the change this year I presume that means sub breaks rather than the number of subs. Would mean 3 minutes this game? I think they also factor in 30 seconds for goal celebrations. When all of this is taken into account would leave 2 minutes for the keeper being treated - it was clearly much longer so god knows how the 4th official only came up with 6 minutes.
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Post by eric on Sept 5, 2022 12:55:42 GMT
I also saw one of their guys blatantly kick the ball away in front of the West Stand. I see this regularly but only usually see a yellow if we do it. So inconsistent. Not just kicking the ball away but I thought immediate 10 yds from a free kick as well? They stopped every quick take by standing in front of the ball multiple times. Coutts often does the same thing for us.
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Post by axegas on Sept 5, 2022 12:56:32 GMT
I might be wrong, but don’t think it’s an additional minute per person being subbed, more the instance of making substitutions. I agree that it should have been way more added time though! 30 seconds for subs isn’t it? With the change this year I presume that means sub breaks rather than the number of subs. Would mean 3 minutes this game? I think they also factor in 30 seconds for goal celebrations. When all of this is taken into account would leave 2 minutes for the keeper being treated - it was clearly much longer so god knows how the 4th official only came up with 6 minutes. They should just do what the rubgy do and stop the clock every time there is a break in play. Always thought that was a fairer system.
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Post by Wimborne Gas on Sept 5, 2022 13:15:08 GMT
30 seconds for subs isn’t it? With the change this year I presume that means sub breaks rather than the number of subs. Would mean 3 minutes this game? I think they also factor in 30 seconds for goal celebrations. When all of this is taken into account would leave 2 minutes for the keeper being treated - it was clearly much longer so god knows how the 4th official only came up with 6 minutes. They should just do what the rubgy do and stop the clock every time there is a break in play. Always thought that was a fairer system. We'd have had to postpone the 2 games last week as we'd still be playing Shrewsbury.
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Post by baggins on Sept 5, 2022 14:57:53 GMT
Not just kicking the ball away but I thought immediate 10 yds from a free kick as well? They stopped every quick take by standing in front of the ball multiple times. Coutts often does the same thing for us. Coutts isn't particularly quick infront the ball full stop.
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Post by lastminutewinner on Sept 5, 2022 14:59:52 GMT
I might be wrong, but don’t think it’s an additional minute per person being subbed, more the instance of making substitutions. I agree that it should have been way more added time though! 30 seconds for subs isn’t it? With the change this year I presume that means sub breaks rather than the number of subs. Would mean 3 minutes this game? I think they also factor in 30 seconds for goal celebrations. When all of this is taken into account would leave 2 minutes for the keeper being treated - it was clearly much longer so god knows how the 4th official only came up with 6 minutes. To be fair id have struggled to watch any more of that game so am kinda glad it didnt go on longer
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Post by nsblue on Sept 5, 2022 19:20:56 GMT
Interesting sub plot but Morecambe have been put up for sale, the owners also own Worcester Warriors rugby club who are likely to be put into administration! www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/62768939
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