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Post by Kingswood Polak on Sept 29, 2022 13:14:05 GMT
In the not too distant future all will become clear. A couple of questions for you. If you came from a financial background, would you wish to continue to pump 3 million of your own money plus wages, players ec into the club, provide stadium and upgrade training ground ? What background should a football club owner come from before they can be considered to have a genuine sporting interest? If Wael can secure a stadium at some stage and open up new revenue streams and progress the club up the pyramid he would at some stage likely make a profit if he ever decided to sell up. I don’t think his interest in buying us in the first place was ever financially motivated, he loves football and has done for many, many years. If it was all about making money there are plenty of other safer industries he could have ventured into. You think his family have no input ? Genuine question .
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Post by eric on Sept 29, 2022 14:51:27 GMT
What background should a football club owner come from before they can be considered to have a genuine sporting interest? If Wael can secure a stadium at some stage and open up new revenue streams and progress the club up the pyramid he would at some stage likely make a profit if he ever decided to sell up. I don’t think his interest in buying us in the first place was ever financially motivated, he loves football and has done for many, many years. If it was all about making money there are plenty of other safer industries he could have ventured into. You think his family have no input ? Genuine question . Probably initially but since his father died didn’t he take on virtually all of the ownership. He (and his family) wouldn’t have gone into it hoping to lose money which is why I’m sure he’s genuine in his attempts to secure a new stadium which is crucial to our future and progression. If you want to question the motivation of someone with a banking background or rule them out of football club ownership in general what background would be acceptable to you for a future owner? Do you want to limit them to certain business backgrounds, must be Bristolian, must have supported the club from the terraces man and boy? If so we might as well fold now.
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Post by yattongas on Sept 29, 2022 15:01:45 GMT
Hi KP, interesting comment although it's time to spell out what we are missing. No need to give names or sources but we deserve a bit more than a few tit bits. No, although would ve happy to meet you then tell you. I have no time for the pages of sycophantic and self interested content. The first and important move has been made, in Jennings appointment. Pm me and i can give you my details. I won’t send by pm either as I prefer email , which is encrypted so no copying and pasting Put up or shut up man . All this ‘I know something that you don’t nonsense’ but I can’t say what it is … give us a break ffs 🙄
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Post by playtowin on Sept 29, 2022 16:37:23 GMT
Do you want Wael to leave the club ? If so would you prefer a local owner who may not be as wealthy. Or An even wealthier owner who can find the funds for a 50,000 stadium and team to match ? Or Another option. In the not too distant future all will become clear. A couple of questions for you. If you came from a financial background, would you wish to continue to pump 3 million of your own money plus wages, players ec into the club, provide stadium and upgrade training ground ? I know nothing and am open to all possibilities at the club. My post was a direct question for chipgas to see the background thoughts.
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Post by fintanstack on Sept 29, 2022 17:39:15 GMT
I know exactly what is going on.
I have said too much.
PM me and I will tell you everything.
Utter nonsense.
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Post by warehamgas on Sept 29, 2022 18:50:47 GMT
I don't believe for a second the nonsense about a housing estate at the Colony. I have never seen anything to suggest Wael would do such a thing and I believe he has the best interests of the club at heart. Well he says so, and in a way which seems sincere. However, I am concerned at the long, long period of silence from him, and am surprised more are not too. It's not how he used to interact with the fans. He was very communicative, even when UWE fell through. I'd like to know why that is, and I'm not content with reading that he'll tell us something when there's something to tell. That's not an answer at all. It just avoids the potential issues.Well done aghast, some balance at last. Ive no idea why Chippenham posts as he does when he posts little elsewhere, so as others have said, white noise. But it deflects from the absolute silence regarding any news regarding the ground. I too am concerned at the lack of any news regarding the ground. Since the collapse of the UWE in August 17 and the news about the Fruit Market in August 19 we’ve had no news. Others on here have told me why report when there’s nothing to report. Fair enough except if there is nothing to report why is that? If there is nothing to report 5 years after the UWEs collapse then that says a lot about Wael’s intentions perhaps. And if there’s nothing to report then there should be after 5 years. Imo of course. Chippenham gets pilloried (perhaps justly), and some are even giving him ultimatums about it, over not divulging his sources about why he says what he says yet we hear nothing from Wael about all his efforts re the ground. 1981 has said Wael should not tell us about possible plans regarding the ground because it wouldn’t be good business practice. Fair enough but everyone seems to expect Chippenham to tell everyone what he knows yet seem to accept Wael telling us nothing for over 5 years now. I find that slightly ironic. Chippenham aside, I think we should be concerned at the lack of news over the ground. The ST problems this year, the lack of current capacity at the Mem which is not going to change, the continuing losses year after year should be making the ground a priority. I’ve no idea if it is. What fantastic fans we have that are still turning up in their numbers despite having a mediocre start. Well done to them, the fan base deserve to be kept better informed. I love what Wael did in the pandemic and it has given him some breathing space over the ground. As you say aghast, telling us when there’s something to tell is no answer and does avoid the big issue. I don’t expect many to agree. It’s much easier to keep attacking chippenham. 😉 UTG!
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Post by wider on Sept 29, 2022 19:01:08 GMT
Given where we were when the Al Qadi family led by Wael took over I’m happy that we still exist. Not only that but we are a league up and have our own training ground. We also have a real character as our manager and a squad that just might have some promise. Having been to The Quarters and been shown around I can’t see how anyone can claim it’s not “fit for purpose”. The two full size pitches are each replicas of The Mem’s construction plus another half pitch for goalkeeping. The gym may look basic externally but is very well equipped. The main block is a straightforward modern building that is (maybe has been) being extended as part of the next phase. The meeting/seminar/teaching/office/changing areas all seemed great to me. I’m not sure about whether the catering was done on site or brought in but the players were signing its praises. The water collection and storage lagoon showed long term planning in my eyes and belies the claim that this is a temporary “pull the wool over their eyes” facility. It also must have saved the club loads of money whilst enabling the pitches to be Pre watered all the time to replicate match conditions. There is loads more room for expansion but there is also a lot of influential local opposition apparently.
I’ve seen this evidence with my own eyes and find it far more believable than people that claim it’s a sham and a balls up. What is their problem and why try to drag the club down? The team needs all the support it can get at present imo. Yes, we did turn it around last season but that doesn’t mean we will this. I hope we do and will be at every home game and as many aways as I can manage cheering them on. UTG! KTF!
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Post by eric on Sept 29, 2022 19:13:08 GMT
I don't believe for a second the nonsense about a housing estate at the Colony. I have never seen anything to suggest Wael would do such a thing and I believe he has the best interests of the club at heart. Well he says so, and in a way which seems sincere. However, I am concerned at the long, long period of silence from him, and am surprised more are not too. It's not how he used to interact with the fans. He was very communicative, even when UWE fell through. I'd like to know why that is, and I'm not content with reading that he'll tell us something when there's something to tell. That's not an answer at all. It just avoids the potential issues.Well done aghast, some balance at last. Ive no idea why Chippenham posts as he does when he posts little elsewhere, so as others have said, white noise. But it deflects from the absolute silence regarding any news regarding the ground. I too am concerned at the lack of any news regarding the ground. Since the collapse of the UWE in August 17 and the news about the Fruit Market in August 19 we’ve had no news. Others on here have told me why report when there’s nothing to report. Fair enough except if there is nothing to report why is that? If there is nothing to report 5 years after the UWEs collapse then that says a lot about Wael’s intentions perhaps. And if there’s nothing to report then there should be after 5 years. Imo of course. Chippenham gets pilloried (perhaps justly), and some are even giving him ultimatums about it, over not divulging his sources about why he says what he says yet we hear nothing from Wael about all his efforts re the ground. 1981 has said Wael should not tell us about possible plans regarding the ground because it wouldn’t be good business practice. Fair enough but everyone seems to expect Chippenham to tell everyone what he knows yet seem to accept Wael telling us nothing for over 5 years now. I find that slightly ironic. Chippenham aside, I think we should be concerned at the lack of news over the ground. The ST problems this year, the lack of current capacity at the Mem which is not going to change, the continuing losses year after year should be making the ground a priority. I’ve no idea if it is. What fantastic fans we have that are still turning up in their numbers despite having a mediocre start. Well done to them, the fan base deserve to be kept better informed. I love what Wael did in the pandemic and it has given him some breathing space over the ground. As you say aghast, telling us when there’s something to tell is no answer and does avoid the big issue. I don’t expect many to agree. It’s much easier to keep attacking chippenham. 😉 UTG! We’d all like a clear and frank update from Wael. Whether the reason we hear nothing from him is because there has been zero progress, because of confidentiality agreements or simply just because that’s how he operates who knows. There are plenty of differences of opinion on these pages, some have 100% confidence in Wael, some have zero % confidence and the majority sit somewhere in between. These are largely respected and debated appropriately. chippenhamgas is getting stick because he has made up a ridiculously outlandish and potentially libellous lie about the owner landbanking the quarters for a future housing estate (despite spending millions making it a high quality training facility). He then compounds it with dismissive and insulting responses and avoids the obvious questions being asked of him. He’s rightfully been outed as a sad troll.
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Post by gasandelectricity on Sept 29, 2022 20:16:35 GMT
Hi KP, interesting comment although it's time to spell out what we are missing. No need to give names or sources but we deserve a bit more than a few tit bits. No, although would ve happy to meet you then tell you. I have no time for the pages of sycophantic and self interested content. Well if that’s the case you can bypass that all then by letting us all know what they hell you’re banging on about.
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Post by Topper Gas on Sept 29, 2022 22:06:33 GMT
Hi KP, interesting comment although it's time to spell out what we are missing. No need to give names or sources but we deserve a bit more than a few tit bits. No, although would ve happy to meet you then tell you. I have no time for the pages of sycophantic and self interested content. The first and important move has been made, in Jennings appointment. Pm me and i can give you my details. I won’t send by pm either as I prefer email , which is encrypted so no copying and pasting I assume your encrypted email will just repeat the drivel SwissGas spouts on the other forum about the club being taken over by the Liverpool "Mafia"?
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Post by gashead1981 on Sept 29, 2022 22:40:04 GMT
I don't believe for a second the nonsense about a housing estate at the Colony. I have never seen anything to suggest Wael would do such a thing and I believe he has the best interests of the club at heart. Well he says so, and in a way which seems sincere. However, I am concerned at the long, long period of silence from him, and am surprised more are not too. It's not how he used to interact with the fans. He was very communicative, even when UWE fell through. I'd like to know why that is, and I'm not content with reading that he'll tell us something when there's something to tell. That's not an answer at all. It just avoids the potential issues.Well done aghast, some balance at last. Ive no idea why Chippenham posts as he does when he posts little elsewhere, so as others have said, white noise. But it deflects from the absolute silence regarding any news regarding the ground. I too am concerned at the lack of any news regarding the ground. Since the collapse of the UWE in August 17 and the news about the Fruit Market in August 19 we’ve had no news. Others on here have told me why report when there’s nothing to report. Fair enough except if there is nothing to report why is that? If there is nothing to report 5 years after the UWEs collapse then that says a lot about Wael’s intentions perhaps. And if there’s nothing to report then there should be after 5 years. Imo of course. Chippenham gets pilloried (perhaps justly), and some are even giving him ultimatums about it, over not divulging his sources about why he says what he says yet we hear nothing from Wael about all his efforts re the ground. 1981 has said Wael should not tell us about possible plans regarding the ground because it wouldn’t be good business practice. Fair enough but everyone seems to expect Chippenham to tell everyone what he knows yet seem to accept Wael telling us nothing for over 5 years now. I find that slightly ironic. Chippenham aside, I think we should be concerned at the lack of news over the ground. The ST problems this year, the lack of current capacity at the Mem which is not going to change, the continuing losses year after year should be making the ground a priority. I’ve no idea if it is. What fantastic fans we have that are still turning up in their numbers despite having a mediocre start. Well done to them, the fan base deserve to be kept better informed. I love what Wael did in the pandemic and it has given him some breathing space over the ground. As you say aghast, telling us when there’s something to tell is no answer and does avoid the big issue. I don’t expect many to agree. It’s much easier to keep attacking chippenham. 😉 UTG! I think that Wael quit being so open with fans after the old SC decided to take advantage of Waels good nature and accused him of grooming a fan along with other things I think it’s very wise he is now keeping his counsel a lot more. Loose lips sink ships etc. Wael keeping his business practices and negotiations quiet are the polar opposite of asking Chippenham to declare his evidence or source. They aren’t even in the same realm of confidentiality purely because Chippenham has been nothing but accusatory. If you are going to stick your head above a parapet and accuse anyone of something, you better have the evidence to back it up to be taken seriously. If you aren’t willing to disclose then firstly, don’t expect anything you say to be taken seriously and second, it’s better you keep your own counsel or risk being made to look a fool. I do agree with you that some news on a stadium plan, even if it’s news of a lack of one is needed, but on the other hand, the last 3 years have been plagued by pandemics and fiscal difficulties which don’t seem to be getting any better any time soon so I can understand why there hasn’t been any lack of progress.
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Sept 29, 2022 22:54:48 GMT
No, although would ve happy to meet you then tell you. I have no time for the pages of sycophantic and self interested content. Well if that’s the case you can bypass that all then by letting us all know what they hell you’re banging on about. No
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Post by aghast on Sept 29, 2022 23:02:44 GMT
Well done aghast, some balance at last. Ive no idea why Chippenham posts as he does when he posts little elsewhere, so as others have said, white noise. But it deflects from the absolute silence regarding any news regarding the ground. I too am concerned at the lack of any news regarding the ground. Since the collapse of the UWE in August 17 and the news about the Fruit Market in August 19 we’ve had no news. Others on here have told me why report when there’s nothing to report. Fair enough except if there is nothing to report why is that? If there is nothing to report 5 years after the UWEs collapse then that says a lot about Wael’s intentions perhaps. And if there’s nothing to report then there should be after 5 years. Imo of course. Chippenham gets pilloried (perhaps justly), and some are even giving him ultimatums about it, over not divulging his sources about why he says what he says yet we hear nothing from Wael about all his efforts re the ground. 1981 has said Wael should not tell us about possible plans regarding the ground because it wouldn’t be good business practice. Fair enough but everyone seems to expect Chippenham to tell everyone what he knows yet seem to accept Wael telling us nothing for over 5 years now. I find that slightly ironic. Chippenham aside, I think we should be concerned at the lack of news over the ground. The ST problems this year, the lack of current capacity at the Mem which is not going to change, the continuing losses year after year should be making the ground a priority. I’ve no idea if it is. What fantastic fans we have that are still turning up in their numbers despite having a mediocre start. Well done to them, the fan base deserve to be kept better informed. I love what Wael did in the pandemic and it has given him some breathing space over the ground. As you say aghast, telling us when there’s something to tell is no answer and does avoid the big issue. I don’t expect many to agree. It’s much easier to keep attacking chippenham. 😉 UTG! I think that Wael quit being so open with fans after the old SC decided to take advantage of Waels good nature and accused him of grooming a fan along with other things I think it’s very wise he is now keeping his counsel a lot more. Loose lips sink ships etc. Wael keeping his business practices and negotiations quiet are the polar opposite of asking Chippenham to declare his evidence or source. They aren’t even in the same realm of confidentiality purely because Chippenham has been nothing but accusatory. If you are going to stick your head above a parapet and accuse anyone of something, you better have the evidence to back it up to be taken seriously. If you aren’t willing to disclose then firstly, don’t expect anything you say to be taken seriously and second, it’s better you keep your own counsel or risk being made to look a fool. I do agree with you that some news on a stadium plan, even if it’s news of a lack of one is needed, but on the other hand, the last 3 years have been plagued by pandemics and fiscal difficulties which don’t seem to be getting any better any time soon so I can understand why there hasn’t been any lack of progress. Some sort of statement from Wael along the lines of your last paragraph would be useful and perhaps understandable. Saying nothing, ever, leads to discussions like this on here and on the terraces.
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Post by gasandelectricity on Sept 30, 2022 0:01:51 GMT
Well if that’s the case you can bypass that all then by letting us all know what they hell you’re banging on about. No This is a discussion forum. You talk about pages of sycophantic self interested content but your whole “I know something you don’t know” on completely unrelated threads about our ownership is exactly that. The irony is unreal. You know what you’re doing. Contribute something man.
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Post by RD on Sept 30, 2022 6:13:50 GMT
Hi KP, interesting comment although it's time to spell out what we are missing. No need to give names or sources but we deserve a bit more than a few tit bits. No, although would ve happy to meet you then tell you. I have no time for the pages of sycophantic and self interested content. The first and important move has been made, in Jennings appointment. Pm me and i can give you my details. I won’t send by pm either as I prefer email , which is encrypted so no copying and pasting LOL... You do realise someone can just screenshot the email and post it?!
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Post by fanboy on Sept 30, 2022 6:51:56 GMT
Hi KP, interesting comment although it's time to spell out what we are missing. No need to give names or sources but we deserve a bit more than a few tit bits. No, although would ve happy to meet you then tell you. I have no time for the pages of sycophantic and self interested content. The first and important move has been made, in Jennings appointment. Pm me and i can give you my details. I won’t send by pm either as I prefer email , which is encrypted so no copying and pasting Not sure what is more ridiculous, the total nonsense conspiracy theories or the claim you can’t copy and paste from an email!
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Post by SleepyGas on Sept 30, 2022 8:58:59 GMT
No, although would ve happy to meet you then tell you. I have no time for the pages of sycophantic and self interested content. The first and important move has been made, in Jennings appointment. Pm me and i can give you my details. I won’t send by pm either as I prefer email , which is encrypted so no copying and pasting Not sure what is more ridiculous, the total nonsense conspiracy theories or the claim you can’t copy and paste from an email! Yeah - all you have to do is take a photo of the monitor with the e-mail on it from your camera. Then you would have to go get the film developed, but it is achievable.
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Post by fintanstack on Sept 30, 2022 9:29:14 GMT
Not sure what is more ridiculous, the total nonsense conspiracy theories or the claim you can’t copy and paste from an email! Yeah - all you have to do is take a photo of the monitor with the e-mail on it from your camera. Then you would have to go get the film developed, but it is achievable. I use tracing paper.
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Sept 30, 2022 10:28:41 GMT
No, although would ve happy to meet you then tell you. I have no time for the pages of sycophantic and self interested content. The first and important move has been made, in Jennings appointment. Pm me and i can give you my details. I won’t send by pm either as I prefer email , which is encrypted so no copying and pasting Not sure what is more ridiculous, the total nonsense conspiracy theories or the claim you can’t copy and paste from an email! You can’t from a paid for and encrypted and decent one, it will let you copy but then try pasting lol
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Sept 30, 2022 10:29:57 GMT
No, although would ve happy to meet you then tell you. I have no time for the pages of sycophantic and self interested content. The first and important move has been made, in Jennings appointment. Pm me and i can give you my details. I won’t send by pm either as I prefer email , which is encrypted so no copying and pasting LOL... You do realise someone can just screenshot the email and post it?! Try pasting from a truly encypted email
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