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Helpline
Nov 6, 2022 14:28:01 GMT
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Post by padstow on Nov 6, 2022 14:28:01 GMT
Beats getting soaked in front of west stand..at least john kayes managed to purchase some ponchos to keep them fairly dry
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Nov 6, 2022 16:09:01 GMT
Beats getting soaked in front of west stand..at least john kayes managed to purchase some ponchos to keep them fairly dry I don't get soaked in my usual seat!
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Post by padstow on Nov 6, 2022 19:41:14 GMT
Beats getting soaked in front of west stand..at least john kayes managed to purchase some ponchos to keep them fairly dry I don't get soaked in my usual seat! Was talking about wheelchair fans
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Nov 6, 2022 21:53:35 GMT
I don't get soaked in my usual seat! Was talking about wheelchair fans Ah, right. My post related to Ambulant Disabled fans. Our provision must be amongst the poorest facilities for wheelchair fans.
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Nov 7, 2022 10:37:57 GMT
Was talking about wheelchair fans Ah, right. My post related to Ambulant Disabled fans. Our provision must be amongst the poorest facilities for wheelchair fans. Yet another reason why it’s vital that we get a better stadium.
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Helpline
Nov 7, 2022 20:32:17 GMT
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Nov 7, 2022 20:32:17 GMT
The irony is, the club has lost a revenue stream by the deceased Helpline!? But hey what do I know, they call it progress..... apparently. (?) “Dear Helpline member, IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT It is with much regret that we have to report that as a result of the recent pandemic and the ongoing cost of living crisis and the financial difficulties that many are experiencing, the number of members has fallen over recent months and continues to fall. Following in-depth discussions and consultations with the Football Club, it has been agreed that it no longer remains a viable proposition for Helpline to continue. We realise that this news will come with considerable sadness following the tremendous support that you have shown towards Helpline since your membership commenced.” Doesn’t look like it to me. It does to me. First of all, actual numbers of members active haven't been disclosed, but as long as some are paying, revenue for the club would exist. Albeit smaller. Second of all, like so many things covid Brexit war in Ukraine, strikes no pay rise EastEnders on too long rising fuel and leccy Andor being cr@p etc etc etc might have impact, that's true, but what hasn't been stated in letter, but pointed out on here is: the status of helpline and ticket acquisition was downgraded on CEO instruction, thus starting the exodus. So, with little or no support from the CEO and everything else in this financial climate (thinking about it, when was it ever a good time as folk have complained years before covid of poverty?), to remove a revenue stream - however reduced, but still there - appears a bit strange. Unless, you resent independently financed organisations run by fans that you have no control over... Do you think the club could have done more to help before this unilateral decision was made?
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Helpline
Nov 7, 2022 21:12:27 GMT
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Post by horfield on Nov 7, 2022 21:12:27 GMT
Don't worry, it's only a matter of time before the Supporters Club gets dealt the same hand by the club.
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Helpline
Nov 7, 2022 21:33:11 GMT
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Post by aghast on Nov 7, 2022 21:33:11 GMT
Don't worry, it's only a matter of time before the Supporters Club gets dealt the same hand by the club. I think that's pretty much happened already hasn't it? Although tbf I'm not sure if we have a fans director on the board. Didn't think so but happy to be corrected.
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Post by The Equaliser on Nov 8, 2022 8:59:03 GMT
Don't worry, it's only a matter of time before the Supporters Club gets dealt the same hand by the club. To be fair the way some people at the supporters club behaved they are lucky to still be going. I hope David can turn it around but he’s got a tough job 👍🏾
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Post by gashead1981 on Nov 8, 2022 9:07:48 GMT
Don't worry, it's only a matter of time before the Supporters Club gets dealt the same hand by the club. Now that your mates have been binned off, its a much different organisation that, as publicly stated, been welcomed by the club.
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Post by gashead1981 on Nov 8, 2022 9:13:01 GMT
Don't worry, it's only a matter of time before the Supporters Club gets dealt the same hand by the club. I think that's pretty much happened already hasn't it? Although tbf I'm not sure if we have a fans director on the board. Didn't think so but happy to be corrected. There are 2 new fans directors, Steve Lamble and Helen Wigmore, not that we have heard a great deal from them publicly, perhaps they have had to do a lot of rebuilding behind the scenes after the Chappel and Masters debacle.
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Post by oldie on Nov 8, 2022 9:37:11 GMT
I think that's pretty much happened already hasn't it? Although tbf I'm not sure if we have a fans director on the board. Didn't think so but happy to be corrected. There are 2 new fans directors, Steve Lamble and Helen Wigmore, not that we have heard a great deal from them publicly, perhaps they have had to do a lot of rebuilding behind the scenes after the Chappel and Masters debacle. If we don't hear from them then what exactly is their purpose?
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Post by gashead1981 on Nov 8, 2022 9:39:58 GMT
“Dear Helpline member, IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT It is with much regret that we have to report that as a result of the recent pandemic and the ongoing cost of living crisis and the financial difficulties that many are experiencing, the number of members has fallen over recent months and continues to fall. Following in-depth discussions and consultations with the Football Club, it has been agreed that it no longer remains a viable proposition for Helpline to continue. We realise that this news will come with considerable sadness following the tremendous support that you have shown towards Helpline since your membership commenced.” Doesn’t look like it to me. It does to me. First of all, actual numbers of members active haven't been disclosed, but as long as some are paying, revenue for the club would exist. Albeit smaller. Second of all, like so many things covid Brexit war in Ukraine, strikes no pay rise EastEnders on too long rising fuel and leccy Andor being cr@p etc etc etc might have impact, that's true, but what hasn't been stated in letter, but pointed out on here is: the status of helpline and ticket acquisition was downgraded on CEO instruction, thus starting the exodus. So, with little or no support from the CEO and everything else in this financial climate (thinking about it, when was it ever a good time as folk have complained years before covid of poverty?), to remove a revenue stream - however reduced, but still there - appears a bit strange. Unless, you resent independently financed organisations run by fans that you have no control over... Do you think the club could have done more to help before this unilateral decision was made? As has been stated before, our CEO isnt a spiteful and selfish person who is looking to close down the independent clubs with a degree of victimisation or vindictiveness. It will be based on numbers and about what the club is getting back for what it has to give away to help those clubs run, is there a better way to do it operationally, are we already doing it from an official perspective and its just being duplicated and what are the plans for the future of that organisation? Again the impression you give is one that is based on sentiment, times have gotten tough so what is the club going to do for them, when, if the whole point of an independent organisation is to help the club, what ideas are they going to come up with to maximise what they have even further? I have absolutely no grudge against the independents, I'm all for them and encourage them, but it needs to be more than a couple of peoples baby so it can survive and thrive with fresh ideas and input. Look at Her Game Too. A complete different cause I know, but look at how they are running it. There are 10 or so co-founders, plus advocates and ambassadors that take ideas from all places to drive it forward. Thats the kind of mentality that the SC, Helpline and any other Independent clubs need to have now.
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Post by gashead1981 on Nov 8, 2022 9:40:41 GMT
There are 2 new fans directors, Steve Lamble and Helen Wigmore, not that we have heard a great deal from them publicly, perhaps they have had to do a lot of rebuilding behind the scenes after the Chappel and Masters debacle. If we don't hear from them then what exactly is their purpose? Ask them!! Steve Lamble is Slam on here. Hes often a reader and lurker rather than a poster though.
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Helpline
Nov 8, 2022 11:11:10 GMT
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Nov 8, 2022 11:11:10 GMT
It does to me. First of all, actual numbers of members active haven't been disclosed, but as long as some are paying, revenue for the club would exist. Albeit smaller. Second of all, like so many things covid Brexit war in Ukraine, strikes no pay rise EastEnders on too long rising fuel and leccy Andor being cr@p etc etc etc might have impact, that's true, but what hasn't been stated in letter, but pointed out on here is: the status of helpline and ticket acquisition was downgraded on CEO instruction, thus starting the exodus. So, with little or no support from the CEO and everything else in this financial climate (thinking about it, when was it ever a good time as folk have complained years before covid of poverty?), to remove a revenue stream - however reduced, but still there - appears a bit strange. Unless, you resent independently financed organisations run by fans that you have no control over... Do you think the club could have done more to help before this unilateral decision was made? As has been stated before, our CEO isnt a spiteful and selfish person who is looking to close down the independent clubs with a degree of victimisation or vindictiveness. It will be based on numbers and about what the club is getting back for what it has to give away to help those clubs run, is there a better way to do it operationally, are we already doing it from an official perspective and its just being duplicated and what are the plans for the future of that organisation? Again the impression you give is one that is based on sentiment, times have gotten tough so what is the club going to do for them, when, if the whole point of an independent organisation is to help the club, what ideas are they going to come up with to maximise what they have even further? I have absolutely no grudge against the independents, I'm all for them and encourage them, but it needs to be more than a couple of peoples baby so it can survive and thrive with fresh ideas and input. Look at Her Game Too. A complete different cause I know, but look at how they are running it. There are 10 or so co-founders, plus advocates and ambassadors that take ideas from all places to drive it forward. Thats the kind of mentality that the SC, Helpline and any other Independent clubs need to have now. So.... nothing. The club didn't help promote, reduce costs or help advertise or assist with making it an attraction, or do anything to help. Maybe the club feels no obligation to help? They could have done something. But that's ok. The club has lost a revenue stream, probably because the main catalyst was the ticket downgrade and sell it to the public as a covid financially unviable largely because of the situation the very club helped to create. I've never said anything about CEO spiteful, but I still think think honourable association could have been saved, and it's a shame another independently run organisation has stopped, but that's just me...
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Post by gashead1981 on Nov 8, 2022 15:07:27 GMT
As has been stated before, our CEO isnt a spiteful and selfish person who is looking to close down the independent clubs with a degree of victimisation or vindictiveness. It will be based on numbers and about what the club is getting back for what it has to give away to help those clubs run, is there a better way to do it operationally, are we already doing it from an official perspective and its just being duplicated and what are the plans for the future of that organisation? Again the impression you give is one that is based on sentiment, times have gotten tough so what is the club going to do for them, when, if the whole point of an independent organisation is to help the club, what ideas are they going to come up with to maximise what they have even further? I have absolutely no grudge against the independents, I'm all for them and encourage them, but it needs to be more than a couple of peoples baby so it can survive and thrive with fresh ideas and input. Look at Her Game Too. A complete different cause I know, but look at how they are running it. There are 10 or so co-founders, plus advocates and ambassadors that take ideas from all places to drive it forward. Thats the kind of mentality that the SC, Helpline and any other Independent clubs need to have now. So.... nothing. The club didn't help promote, reduce costs or help advertise or assist with making it an attraction, or do anything to help. Maybe the club feels no obligation to help? They could have done something. But that's ok. The club has lost a revenue stream, probably because the main catalyst was the ticket downgrade and sell it to the public as a covid financially unviable largely because of the situation the very club helped to create. I've never said anything about CEO spiteful, but I still think think honourable association could have been saved, and it's a shame another independently run organisation has stopped, but that's just me... But if these additional clubs want to be wholly independent, then its their responsibility to brainstorm and implement ideas. The club gave them a dedicated page on their website and space in the programmes every game. What more would you have like them to have done? If its down to the club to idea and market it as well then it defeats the object of Helpline being independent doesnt it??
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Nov 8, 2022 15:53:28 GMT
So.... nothing. The club didn't help promote, reduce costs or help advertise or assist with making it an attraction, or do anything to help. Maybe the club feels no obligation to help? They could have done something. But that's ok. The club has lost a revenue stream, probably because the main catalyst was the ticket downgrade and sell it to the public as a covid financially unviable largely because of the situation the very club helped to create. I've never said anything about CEO spiteful, but I still think think honourable association could have been saved, and it's a shame another independently run organisation has stopped, but that's just me... But if these additional clubs want to be wholly independent, then its their responsibility to brainstorm and implement ideas. The club gave them a dedicated page on their website and space in the programmes every game. What more would you have like them to have done? If its down to the club to idea and market it as well then it defeats the object of Helpline being independent doesnt it?? You can remain independent whilst getting a marketing freebie. The monies generated would have wormed it's way back to the club anyways with it's functions and prize draws.. This was allowed to die a death and like your posts allude, times have moved on. What more would I have liked them to have done? Not downgrade their ticket allocation status for one.
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 8, 2022 16:31:15 GMT
Don't worry, it's only a matter of time before the Supporters Club gets dealt the same hand by the club. I think that's pretty much happened already hasn't it? Although tbf I'm not sure if we have a fans director on the board. Didn't think so but happy to be corrected. Pretty certain we've now got two and one of them is a forum member. Clearly that type of news doesn't fit with Horfield's strange anti Wael/anti Barton agenda.
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Post by wertongas on Nov 8, 2022 16:54:54 GMT
if exmembers of the helpline still want to support the football club through a club draw they can join the Presidents club, it cost £5.00 per month and the top prize is £75.00 all proceeds go to the club often to suppport the Youth team by buying equipment. We use to have our draw in the Dunford lounge but the club kicked us out of there, so they are now in one of the boxes or the West stand.
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Post by aghast on Nov 8, 2022 17:25:24 GMT
I think that's pretty much happened already hasn't it? Although tbf I'm not sure if we have a fans director on the board. Didn't think so but happy to be corrected. Pretty certain we've now got two and one of them is a forum member. Clearly that type of news doesn't fit with Horfield's strange anti Wael/anti Barton agenda. Yes, as g81 reminded me. I'd forgotten we had two. We don't hear much from them, do we? I wonder if they attend board meetings, and if they participate in any way?
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