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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2022 17:29:49 GMT
Regarding the south stand I thought there were limitations due to its proximity to Alton Road. The only limitations were the use of the old turnstiles. When we first moved to the Mem we built new turnstiles at the Filton Ave end in exchange for agreeing never to use the Alton Road turnstiles again. The two houses directly behind the South were, not sure if they still are, owned by the club so not to be blighted. Remember planning was granted for a two tier stand at that end as part of the 2009 planning.
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Post by wertongas on Nov 14, 2022 17:32:59 GMT
Regarding the south stand I thought there were limitations due to its proximity to Alton Road. There maybe but it could be extended if it wasn't for the scoreboard, when I spoke to TG about extending the Thatchers roof along the east terracing and putting seats in it instead of the pathetic family tent that was put there, he was keen on it as it would entail getting planning permission. Thing is if the club don't want to apply for planning due to I suppose opposition from locals how on earth are we ever going to get a decent stadium if we don't move.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2022 17:39:33 GMT
Regarding the south stand I thought there were limitations due to its proximity to Alton Road. There maybe but it could be extended if it wasn't for the scoreboard, when I spoke to TG about extending the Thatchers roof along the east terracing and putting seats in it instead of the pathetic family tent that was put there, he was keen on it as it would entail getting planning permission. Thing is if the club don't want to apply for planning due to I suppose opposition from locals how on earth are we ever going to get a decent stadium if we don't move. They had to get planning permission for the family tent, retrospectively if you remember. They were not permitted to use it until that permission was granted. pa.bristol.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?keyVal=PG2SA1DNIYY00&activeTab=summaryThe Family Stand and the South West Stand could not be used for the first couple of months of the season as planning had not been granted.
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Post by wertongas on Nov 14, 2022 17:41:09 GMT
I did raise the fact that the south stand use to be larger with TG, he didn't realize that and would I think have added on the extra blocks of seats if it wasn't for the fact that the electronic score board is now in the way and stopping any extension. As I have said before a larger pre fabricated L shaped metal stand could go in where the South west and South stands are. I did think about contacting TG to suggest this and other things. The critical point is though, by just increasing the size of the stand will not increase the capacity as the previous planning application shows. To increase the capacity there will need to be additional turnstiles and toilet facilities to comply with safety issues. A piecemeal development that the planners are not keen to support and that is why they granted us permission for a complete redevelopment. You maybe right but the official capacity was 12,300 until restrictions were brought in so I can't see any reason why that capacity can't be regained if condition set by the planners are met by the club.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2022 17:45:33 GMT
The critical point is though, by just increasing the size of the stand will not increase the capacity as the previous planning application shows. To increase the capacity there will need to be additional turnstiles and toilet facilities to comply with safety issues. A piecemeal development that the planners are not keen to support and that is why they granted us permission for a complete redevelopment. You maybe right but the official capacity was 12,300 until restrictions were brought in so I can't see any reason why that capacity can't be regained if condition set by the planners are met by the club. The capacity was 11916 in 2006 as per the planning permission I posted earlier on this thread. Attachment Deleted
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Post by wertongas on Nov 14, 2022 17:52:11 GMT
There maybe but it could be extended if it wasn't for the scoreboard, when I spoke to TG about extending the Thatchers roof along the east terracing and putting seats in it instead of the pathetic family tent that was put there, he was keen on it as it would entail getting planning permission. Thing is if the club don't want to apply for planning due to I suppose opposition from locals how on earth are we ever going to get a decent stadium if we don't move. They had to get planning permission for the family tent, retrospectively if you remember. They were not permitted to use it until that permission was granted. pa.bristol.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?keyVal=PG2SA1DNIYY00&activeTab=summaryThe Family Stand and the South West Stand could not be used for the first couple of months of the season as planning had not been granted. If that is the case then the the club clearly didn't realize that to start with because they told me that they were putting up the family tent to avoid having to get planning, the whole thing was a cock up anyway because the family tent was meant to be larger and there was going to be one for away fans, the idea had to be abandoned due to it obstructing site line from the century stand. If the club struggle putting up temporary stands how would they cope with a major revamp.
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Post by wertongas on Nov 14, 2022 17:54:31 GMT
You maybe right but the official capacity was 12,300 until restrictions were brought in so I can't see any reason why that capacity can't be regained if condition set by the planners are met by the club. The capacity was 11916 in 2006 as per the planning permission I posted earlier on this thread. View AttachmentSince then it has been recorded as 12,300 not that that is a major difference. We had over 12,000 for the West Brom cup tie.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2022 18:11:55 GMT
The capacity was 11916 in 2006 as per the planning permission I posted earlier on this thread. View AttachmentSince then it has been recorded as 12,300 not that that is a major difference. We had over 12,000 for the West Brom cup tie. Shhh, don't tell the planners.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2022 18:13:38 GMT
If that is the case then the the club clearly didn't realize that to start with because they told me that they were putting up the family tent to avoid having to get planning, the whole thing was a cock up anyway because the family tent was meant to be larger and there was going to be one for away fans, the idea had to be abandoned due to it obstructing site line from the century stand. If the club struggle putting up temporary stands how would they cope with a major revamp. It was a total cock up. I remember talking to the sponsor of the South West Stand as the stand his company was sponsoring through the annual raffle wasn't able to be used.
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Post by bluebiro on Nov 14, 2022 18:34:35 GMT
Now the winter is kicking in will be interesting to see how proactive the club is in making the fan zone work. Huddled together in a pop up gazebo may not be the way forward.
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Post by gaelgas on Nov 14, 2022 19:37:49 GMT
It was increased in width paid for by the rugby club at the same time as the south west stand was first installed. They wanted extra seating to provide extra income but the capacity of the ground was never increased. They council permitted the additional seating as long as the capacity stayed the same. I did raise the fact that the south stand use to be larger with TG, he didn't realize that and would I think have added on the extra blocks of seats if it wasn't for the fact that the electronic score board is now in the way and stopping any extension. As I have said before a larger pre fabricated L shaped metal stand could go in where the South west and South stands are. I did think about contacting TG to suggest this and other things. My thoughts as well, but I guess it all comes down to the overall ground capacity as well which seems to be a stumbling block. I believe that this would help bring capacity back up towards the 12,000 it has been in the past.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2022 19:42:52 GMT
I did raise the fact that the south stand use to be larger with TG, he didn't realize that and would I think have added on the extra blocks of seats if it wasn't for the fact that the electronic score board is now in the way and stopping any extension. As I have said before a larger pre fabricated L shaped metal stand could go in where the South west and South stands are. I did think about contacting TG to suggest this and other things. My thoughts as well, but I guess it all comes down to the overall ground capacity as well which seems to be a stumbling block. I believe that this would help bring capacity back up towards the 12,000 it has been in the past. Just a thought. The club know how many supporters they have had to turn away if any so perhaps there isn't a need to increase the capacity to 12,000 and incur an unnecessary expense. The official attendance figures don't appear to match the capacity.
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Post by justin blue on Nov 14, 2022 21:17:51 GMT
My thoughts as well, but I guess it all comes down to the overall ground capacity as well which seems to be a stumbling block. I believe that this would help bring capacity back up towards the 12,000 it has been in the past. Just a thought. The club know how many supporters they have had to turn away if any so perhaps there isn't a need to increase the capacity to 12,000 and incur an unnecessary expense. The official attendance figures don't appear to match the capacity. I’m not sure the would know how many had visited to book online to find tickets not available.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2022 21:28:28 GMT
Just a thought. The club know how many supporters they have had to turn away if any so perhaps there isn't a need to increase the capacity to 12,000 and incur an unnecessary expense. The official attendance figures don't appear to match the capacity. I’m not sure the would know how many had visited to book online to find tickets not available. I lot of retailers know when I have visited and failed to make a purchase so there must be a way of knowing how many visit the ticket site after tickets have sold out. Not sure that they would know how many tickets people might have wanted to purchase but they would know the normal average purchased per transaction.
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 14, 2022 21:37:21 GMT
I’m not sure the would know how many had visited to book online to find tickets not available. I lot of retailers know when I have visited and failed to make a purchase so there must be a way of knowing how many visit the ticket site after tickets have sold out. Not sure that they would know how many tickets people might have wanted to purchase but they would know the normal average purchased per transaction. Given seats in the main stands usually sell out well before the terrace tickets then we clearly lack sufficient decent seating.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 14, 2022 21:53:35 GMT
I lot of retailers know when I have visited and failed to make a purchase so there must be a way of knowing how many visit the ticket site after tickets have sold out. Not sure that they would know how many tickets people might have wanted to purchase but they would know the normal average purchased per transaction. Given seats in the main stands usually sell out well before the terrace tickets then we clearly lack sufficient decent seating. Definitely. I would still love to see a two tiered all seater stadium built on The Mem site with a capacity in the region of 15/18k. I visited Rotherham United recently and saw what they had built with a 13k capacity. The facilities built into the main part of the stadium brings in a huge income for such a small club. The hospitality suite is vast and also used for weddings as well as exhibitions etc. Part of the stand is also leased out as offices to companies including Mears, one of their main sponsors. I'm sure The Mem could be viable, somebody just needs to be a little inventive and raise the cash of course.
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Post by bluebiro on Nov 15, 2022 16:12:29 GMT
Must have the only ceo who purposely wants to lose money by voluntary reducing attendances.
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 15, 2022 16:25:54 GMT
Must have the only ceo who purposely wants to lose money by voluntary reducing attendances. What I don't understand is why SAG reduced our capacity even further in the summer when the club had already built in a "comfort factor", why didn't the club just tell them there was no requirement to reduce capacity even further when we weren't even using the ground to its full capacity? I can't understand why standing at the front of terracing is apparently so dangerous but at grounds like Anfield and FGR's fans are sat at pitch level. Also why does TG talk about safety when it comes to increasing the ground capacity, surely the ground is safe at his full capacity just, possibly, not comfortable although I'd bet most fans would sooner see a packed Mem than just watch a game in comfort!
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Nov 15, 2022 19:05:01 GMT
Must have the only ceo who purposely wants to lose money by voluntary reducing attendances. I did think that was rather odd.
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Post by playtowin on Nov 15, 2022 19:55:51 GMT
Must have the only ceo who purposely wants to lose money by voluntary reducing attendances. I did think that was rather odd. Maybe....by reducing the capacity and games sell out quickly it emphasises the need for an increase in available places. Which may help should they wish to build/install new seating areas to the ground. (?)
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