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Post by dudelebowski on Jan 8, 2023 16:59:52 GMT
I assume we're suppose to just ignore Garner failed hopelessly again this season at Charlton and Tisdale hasn't even returned to football management. Though Tisdale did have an unfortunate spell at Stevenage. Played Lines, Upson and Bostwick against Finley, Coutts & Anderson😂 |
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Post by kylegas on Jan 8, 2023 17:08:43 GMT
& Joey’s first squad, ya know the one people genuinely believed he should’ve kept in league One😂😭Reads like an absolute horror show! Day Williams Kilgour Harries Leahy McCormick Grant Upson Rodman Hanlan Nicholson Substitutes van Stappershoef Westbrooke Daly Ayunga Baldwin Oztumer Koiki That team could have been relegated from league 2 lol |
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Post by kentgas on Jan 8, 2023 17:50:29 GMT
Though Tisdale did have an unfortunate spell at Stevenage. Played Lines, Upson and Bostwick against Finley, Coutts & Anderson😂 Could have got into double figures that game - one of the most one sided matches I have seen. |
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Post by mariobalotelli on Jan 9, 2023 12:29:01 GMT
I assume we're suppose to just ignore Garner failed hopelessly again this season at Charlton and Tisdale hasn't even returned to football management. Topper always with the most irrelevant replies. |
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Post by gashead1981 on Jan 9, 2023 12:58:47 GMT
& Joey’s first squad, ya know the one people genuinely believed he should’ve kept in league One😂😭Reads like an absolute horror show! Day Williams Kilgour Harries Leahy McCormick Grant Upson Rodman Hanlan Nicholson Substitutes van Stappershoef Westbrooke Daly Ayunga Baldwin Oztumer Koiki That team could have been relegated from league 2 lol Amazes me how people still maintain that JB should have kept us up with that squad when every team around us in Jan strengthened and we signed a goalie and a RB when we needed 2 strikers, 3 midfielders and 2 CBs. The only other player we chased was Stockley who went to Charlton and Danny Hylton didn’t want to embarrass himself, which I can understand. |
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Post by warehamgas on Jan 9, 2023 13:37:05 GMT
That team could have been relegated from league 2 lol Amazes me how people still maintain that JB should have kept us up with that squad when every team around us in Jan strengthened and we signed a goalie and a RB when we needed 2 strikers, 3 midfielders and 2 CBs. The only other player we chased was Stockley who went to Charlton and Danny Hylton didn’t want to embarrass himself, which I can understand. Well, it’s all been, done and gone now so it doesn’t really matter. JB has changed the whole playing squad and transformed us into a much improved League 1 team. And all credit to him. But the reason why some of us think he could (not should) have kept us up was that he inherited a team in 16/17/18th position (whatever it was and we weren’t in the bottom 4) and from that position we could have stayed up. I criticised him because I felt once we gave away that dire penalty at Northampton when we were leading 1-0 he gave up. Had we won that match it would have been different perhaps. Anyway, to have given up with nearly 10 games or so to play was poor imo. However all credit to him since and we are in far better position. I hope some don’t interpret this as “Barton-bashing” it’s not but let’s not re-write history and pretend it was something it wasn’t in Spring ‘21. I honestly don’t think you should be ‘amazed’ that some see that Spring differently. (It might be just me, of course who sees it that way.) 🤔 UTG! |
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Post by baggins on Jan 9, 2023 13:50:50 GMT
Amazes me how people still maintain that JB should have kept us up with that squad when every team around us in Jan strengthened and we signed a goalie and a RB when we needed 2 strikers, 3 midfielders and 2 CBs. The only other player we chased was Stockley who went to Charlton and Danny Hylton didn’t want to embarrass himself, which I can understand. Well, it’s all been, done and gone now so it doesn’t really matter. JB has changed the whole playing squad and transformed us into a much improved League 1 team. And all credit to him. But the reason why some of us think he could (not should) have kept us up was that he inherited a team in 16/17/18th position (whatever it was and we weren’t in the bottom 4) and from that position we could have stayed up. I criticised him because I felt once we gave away that dire penalty at Northampton when we were leading 1-0 he gave up. Had we won that match it would have been different perhaps. Anyway, to have given up with nearly 10 games or so to play was poor imo. However all credit to him since and we are in far better position. I hope some don’t interpret this as “Barton-bashing” it’s not but let’s not re-write history and pretend it was something it wasn’t in Spring ‘21. I honestly don’t think you should be ‘amazed’ that some see that Spring differently. (It might be just me, of course who sees it that way.) 🤔 UTG! We were down before JB took over. Not statisticaly but the squad didn't have the spirit or fight to stay up. It was an awful time and to turn that around in a few months was an impossible ask, and we all knew it. The defeat went through everyone including the fans that turned up to watch it. But turn it around he did and what a difference experience we're all having at the Mem. |
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Post by Dirt Dogg on Jan 9, 2023 13:57:13 GMT
Not to mention the players didn’t have to face up to fans at the Mem every week after every defeat.
Looking back thank God none of us had to witness that season in person!
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Post by warehamgas on Jan 9, 2023 14:06:11 GMT
Well, it’s all been, done and gone now so it doesn’t really matter. JB has changed the whole playing squad and transformed us into a much improved League 1 team. And all credit to him. But the reason why some of us think he could (not should) have kept us up was that he inherited a team in 16/17/18th position (whatever it was and we weren’t in the bottom 4) and from that position we could have stayed up. I criticised him because I felt once we gave away that dire penalty at Northampton when we were leading 1-0 he gave up. Had we won that match it would have been different perhaps. Anyway, to have given up with nearly 10 games or so to play was poor imo. However all credit to him since and we are in far better position. I hope some don’t interpret this as “Barton-bashing” it’s not but let’s not re-write history and pretend it was something it wasn’t in Spring ‘21. I honestly don’t think you should be ‘amazed’ that some see that Spring differently. (It might be just me, of course who sees it that way.) 🤔 UTG! We were down before JB took over. Not statisticaly but the squad didn't have the spirit or fight to stay up. It was an awful time and to turn that around in a few months was an impossible ask, and we all knew it. The defeat went through everyone including the fans that turned up to watch it. But turn it around he did and what a difference experience we're all having at the Mem. That’s a fair comment and of course you’re correct they didn’t have the spirit or fight to stay up. But neither did JB after that Northampton defeat. Watching those following matches on ifollow and seeing him detach himself from what was happening and lean against a fence with his arms folded was demoralising, imo. The players, and even JB, got away with it because there were no fans present. An awful time but that’s why I said we ‘could’ have avoided relegation and not ‘should’. Hey ho, a win on Saturday and it will banish those dark times even further away! UTG! |
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Post by playtowin on Jan 9, 2023 20:07:44 GMT
Rovers also had a injury toll to contend with.
The options available were limited.
We had the youngster Martinez playing in midfield. He is at Hungerford (?) Now.
No disrespect to him but playing a young non league defender in midfield in league one is gonna end bad.
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Post by oldie on Jan 9, 2023 20:24:48 GMT
Wasn't it more about what Barton said when he joined?
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Post by yattongas on Jan 9, 2023 20:43:45 GMT
Wasn't it more about what Barton said when he joined? Yes he did oversell himself to start with over confidence that he could immediately turn things around ….. and failed . But , they weren’t his players and they weren’t very good ! Even his biggest detractors must now admit he’s subsequently done a bloody good job and we can genuinely look forward with confidence. Im sure even you agree oldie my friend ? 😉 |
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Post by gulfofaden on Jan 9, 2023 20:44:40 GMT
& Joey’s first squad, ya know the one people genuinely believed he should’ve kept in league One😂😭Reads like an absolute horror show! Day Williams Kilgour Harries Leahy McCormick Grant Upson Rodman Hanlan Nicholson Substitutes van Stappershoef Westbrooke Daly Ayunga Baldwin Oztumer Koiki Those people who used that relegation as an argument to not back Joey's revolution have slipped off Into the shadows and are rarely seen these days. There is no argument anymore the man's transformed our club. They only come back when we lose. Just enjoy the show. Nice guys finish last. |
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Post by purdownpoacher1 on Jan 9, 2023 20:50:09 GMT
Wasn't it more about what Barton said when he joined? Yes he did oversell himself to start with over confidence that he could immediately turn things around ….. and failed . But , they weren’t his players and they weren’t very good ! Even his biggest detractors must now admit he’s subsequently done a bloody good job and we can genuinely look forward with confidence. Im sure even you agree oldie my friend ? 😉 Yatton your asking for a miracle ! 💙UTG |
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Post by toggsy2 on Jan 9, 2023 20:51:37 GMT
Biggest disappointment on that list for me was Oztumer he was outstanding at Walsall came with high expectations but was half the player when he was playing for the Gas just never seemed to get going
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Post by oldie on Jan 9, 2023 21:10:56 GMT
Yes he did oversell himself to start with over confidence that he could immediately turn things around ….. and failed . But , they weren’t his players and they weren’t very good ! Even his biggest detractors must now admit he’s subsequently done a bloody good job and we can genuinely look forward with confidence. Im sure even you agree oldie my friend ? 😉 Yatton your asking for a miracle ! 💙UTG I think I may come to that or an alternative conclusion at the end of this season. During his first two years he has overseen relegation, overseen an immediate promotion and we currently sit in our average league position. So nothing dramatic in the cold light of day. Currently the team, his team, appears to be very unbalanced to me. A potent strike force, a very mediocre midfield which also lacks creative spark and a defence that looks chaotic without a defined shape. Off the pitch the club is now run by Barton and his mates and/or cronies. There appears to be no executive checks and balances. No well run organisation is managed that way. This, in my opinion, represents a huge risk to the long term viability of the club. So as a supporter I have enjoyed the odd 45 mins this season and held my head in my hands for the other 45 mins. So for me nothing has really been achieved yet in "net" terms and the risks loom large. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 9, 2023 21:16:43 GMT
Biggest disappointment on that list for me was Oztumer he was outstanding at Walsall came with high expectations but was half the player when he was playing for the Gas just never seemed to get going When you look back at his playing stats it looks like his best days were already well behind him when we signed him, as he'd only played 17 games for Bolton and 14 for Charlton in the previous couple of seasons and he's hardly played any more games since, not sure why as he's played so few games in recent years as he's still only 31. |
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Post by ChiefStateGAS on Jan 9, 2023 21:27:28 GMT
& Joey’s first squad, ya know the one people genuinely believed he should’ve kept in league One😂😭Reads like an absolute horror show! Day Williams Kilgour Harries Leahy McCormick Grant Upson Rodman Hanlan Nicholson Substitutes van Stappershoef Westbrooke Daly Ayunga Baldwin Oztumer Koiki I remember thinking before the season started that a lot of the players in the squad were actually pretty good, how wrong I was! The reality was that they had just been around a while or their reputations were inaccurate. They had no fight, no bite, no bottle. Day and Oztumer, two signings I thought were a massive coup at the time, they were awful. Upson, Rodman, Williams, Baldwin were players that on paper we all must have thought would be better than they were, way below par. Westbrooke, Grant, Harries, Daly, Kilgour, Koiki were all supposed to be bright up and coming players who should end up playing at a higher level.... Looking at that squad only Leahy, Nicholson and McCormick jump out as good or half-decent league one players. We're lucky to have the players we have now, not where we want to be yet but a much stronger group physically & mentally. Onwards and upwards! UTG |
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Post by chilegas on Jan 9, 2023 21:28:29 GMT
Amazes me how people still maintain that JB should have kept us up with that squad when every team around us in Jan strengthened and we signed a goalie and a RB when we needed 2 strikers, 3 midfielders and 2 CBs. The only other player we chased was Stockley who went to Charlton and Danny Hylton didn’t want to embarrass himself, which I can understand. Well, it’s all been, done and gone now so it doesn’t really matter. JB has changed the whole playing squad and transformed us into a much improved League 1 team. And all credit to him. But the reason why some of us think he could (not should) have kept us up was that he inherited a team in 16/17/18th position (whatever it was and we weren’t in the bottom 4) and from that position we could have stayed up. I criticised him because I felt once we gave away that dire penalty at Northampton when we were leading 1-0 he gave up. Had we won that match it would have been different perhaps. Anyway, to have given up with nearly 10 games or so to play was poor imo. However all credit to him since and we are in far better position. I hope some don’t interpret this as “Barton-bashing” it’s not but let’s not re-write history and pretend it was something it wasn’t in Spring ‘21. I honestly don’t think you should be ‘amazed’ that some see that Spring differently. (It might be just me, of course who sees it that way.) 🤔 UTG! I absolutely love Barton and last season was probably the best football I’ve seen from Rovers - and we are back where we were so all good - but like you it also sticks in my mind that he gave up too early that season. Not sure if the result would have been different - but think he threw the towel in before we were down and out. But as is on the other thread - it’s boring sticking in the same league all the time - last season was mint and well worth going down for. Plus he has reshaped the club and got a decent squad going and I see him getting us to the championship. Plenty more good footy to come with him around. |
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Post by o2o2bo2ba on Jan 9, 2023 21:28:37 GMT
Biggest disappointment on that list for me was Oztumer he was outstanding at Walsall came with high expectations but was half the player when he was playing for the Gas just never seemed to get going Yes more than most realise. Looked like he couldn't be bothered or motivated to get out of 2nd gear most games and thoroughly disinterested. On the Pompeii away match which sealed our relegation fate, all he could do was smile and reminisce with the Cowley's at end of match with shaking hands, rather than give solemn respect he'd actually helped deliver a sh!te season and was happy to take his wage packet in knowing he'd be off soon and leave others' to deal with the consequences.. |
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