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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 9, 2023 13:16:28 GMT
One of the issues they have to overcome is that the land is contaminated from pre- fruit market days when the old steam engine sheds were sited here. Costs of decontamination are substantial. How much is it? Is this really an issue? Contaminated land on the edge of 2 waterways that has been used to trade food for the past few decades. How come it needs fixing for a commercial/residential development? The land was concreted over so little chance of anything getting through that to contaminate the food? Although this seems like something Swissgas or KP would come up with to try and put a dampener on the news.
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Post by Kingswood Polak on Apr 9, 2023 13:29:38 GMT
How much is it? Is this really an issue? Contaminated land on the edge of 2 waterways that has been used to trade food for the past few decades. How come it needs fixing for a commercial/residential development? The land was concreted over so little chance of anything getting through that to contaminate the food? Although this seems like something Swissgas or KP would come up with to try and put a dampener on the news. 🎣
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Post by perryfenwick on Apr 9, 2023 13:35:54 GMT
How much is it? Is this really an issue? Contaminated land on the edge of 2 waterways that has been used to trade food for the past few decades. How come it needs fixing for a commercial/residential development? The land was concreted over so little chance of anything getting through that to contaminate the food? Although this seems like something Swissgas or KP would come up with to try and put a dampener on the news. That sort of thing only counts for residential purposes doesn't it? Seems like a mega red herring to me.
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Post by gashead79 on Apr 9, 2023 14:16:32 GMT
The land was concreted over so little chance of anything getting through that to contaminate the food? Although this seems like something Swissgas or KP would come up with to try and put a dampener on the news. That sort of thing only counts for residential purposes doesn't it? Seems like a mega red herring to me. Perhaps there will be residential development as part of the plans? I went to Manchester last weekend. The development going on in that city is phenomenal. Then to look at the 2 stadiums and consider the collaboration required to aquire, build, update and rearrange the landscape is amazing really. Bristol seems a difficult place to get any major projects done.
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Post by playtowin on Apr 9, 2023 19:20:33 GMT
The Temple of the Quartered Pirates ? The Temple.
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Post by bidefordgas on Apr 10, 2023 7:26:53 GMT
One of the issues they have to overcome is that the land is contaminated from pre- fruit market days when the old steam engine sheds were sited here. Costs of decontamination are substantial. Absolute tosh, that land was built on years ago and the fruit market was not the only development to take place in that area.
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Post by trueblur4u on Apr 10, 2023 11:57:40 GMT
With all the intended work to be carried out at the Fruit Market site, I am surprised there will be enough room for a stadium. Probably stretching things to even have a 20,000 all-seater!
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Post by warwickgas on Apr 10, 2023 12:48:41 GMT
One of the issues they have to overcome is that the land is contaminated from pre- fruit market days when the old steam engine sheds were sited here. Costs of decontamination are substantial. Absolute tosh, that land was built on years ago and the fruit market was not the only development to take place in that area. I really hope you’re right and it does turn out to be tosh. The fruit market was built back in the days when there were no checks on contamination. Legislation today is very different. Apart from oli, slag and waste there is the issue of asbestos. Steam engine boilers were lined with the stuff and the linings had to be changed regularly. I expect in the 1940s 50s and 60s they disposed of this responsibly!so there won’t be any contamination issues.
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 10, 2023 12:54:22 GMT
Absolute tosh, that land was built on years ago and the fruit market was not the only development to take place in that area. I really hope you’re right and it does turn out to be tosh. The fruit market was built back in the days when there were no checks on contamination. Legislation today is very different. Apart from oli, slag and waste there is the issue of asbestos. Steam engine boilers were lined with the stuff and the linings had to be changed regularly. I expect in the 1940s 50s and 60s they disposed of this responsibly!so there won’t be any contamination issues. Given you seem to be an expert on the subject how long would it take to decontaminate the whole area if it was required? Cost is irrelevant as that would be reflected in the sale price of the land.
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Post by DrFaustus on Apr 10, 2023 13:27:36 GMT
With all the intended work to be carried out at the Fruit Market site, I am surprised there will be enough room for a stadium. Probably stretching things to even have a 20,000 all-seater! Why do you care? Turncoat Lansdown has built your stadium, we can worry about ours.
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Post by playtowin on Apr 10, 2023 13:34:33 GMT
I really hope you’re right and it does turn out to be tosh. The fruit market was built back in the days when there were no checks on contamination. Legislation today is very different. Apart from oli, slag and waste there is the issue of asbestos. Steam engine boilers were lined with the stuff and the linings had to be changed regularly. I expect in the 1940s 50s and 60s they disposed of this responsibly!so there won’t be any contamination issues. Given you seem to be an expert on the subject how long would it take to decontaminate the whole area if it was required? Cost is irrelevant as that would be reflected in the sale price of the land. Expect all the pollutants have drained off into the river and canal by now.
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Post by A Source (aka Angry Badger) on Apr 10, 2023 14:07:30 GMT
The land was concreted over so little chance of anything getting through that to contaminate the food? Although this seems like something Swissgas or KP would come up with to try and put a dampener on the news. That sort of thing only counts for residential purposes doesn't it? Seems like a mega red herring to me. I really hope they don't find a mega red herring
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Post by trevorgas on Apr 10, 2023 14:09:55 GMT
Absolute tosh, that land was built on years ago and the fruit market was not the only development to take place in that area. I really hope you’re right and it does turn out to be tosh. The fruit market was built back in the days when there were no checks on contamination. Legislation today is very different. Apart from oli, slag and waste there is the issue of asbestos. Steam engine boilers were lined with the stuff and the linings had to be changed regularly. I expect in the 1940s 50s and 60s they disposed of this responsibly!so there won’t be any contamination issues. Very interesting,my Dad came from the Marsh,there was him,4 bothers/sisters and parents in one small Victorian terrace,remember going there as a kid and playing on a bombed house at the end of the road . Grandfather used to clean and relign the boilers,no health and safety ,masks etc,killed him before he was sixty,how times have changed .
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Post by gashead1981 on Apr 10, 2023 14:10:48 GMT
The Temple of the Quartered Pirates ? The Temple. Of Doom? It would suit some small number of fans…
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on Apr 10, 2023 15:18:12 GMT
With regard to contamination of the land, the original Framework document states:-
"Ground conditions vary across the area including heavy contamination resulting from industrial uses and soft ground reflecting the low-lying nature of the land."
"A high-level assessment of contamination potential has been undertaken using the historical land use information. This area includes several zones that are classified as moderate and high potential risk (Categories B/C and D, respectively) in accordance with “Guidance on dereliction, demolition and remediation costs” (Homes and Communities Agency, 2015).
There are other geotechnical risks associated with this site. For example, there is potential for groundwater flooding on the west of the site and much of the site has moderate hazard potential for unexploded ordnance."
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Post by DrFaustus on Apr 10, 2023 15:58:46 GMT
Of Doom? It would suit some small number of fans… It would indeed. Small number, but still bitter. f**k 'em.
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