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Post by nsblue on May 17, 2023 18:59:52 GMT
I have been on social media for the last hour since hearing of JB's 3 match stadium ban and his links with betting bans etc and it is amazing the number of jobs the "hated" Joey Barton is being linked with!
Apparently wanted by Cardiff, Reading are interested and Sheff Wednesday fans want him to replace Moore. He was spotted in Blackpool, allegedly, and Blackpool fans are putting 2 + 2 together.
Personally, I cannot see him leaving us willingly, as he has so much control over affairs here, which may not be the case elsewhere and I think he sees the potential that the club currently appears to have. The 4 teams mentioned, in my view are currently on a downward trajectory and despite all 4 being ex-premier league, I can see us competing with them on the pitch and IF the FM comes off I can see us competing with them off the pitch and being in a stronger position than them in hopefully the not too distant future.
Hopefully JB will see us challenging for a Championship place in the next 2 seasons, as he has suggested this is his aim, and that off the pitch we have news of either a new stadium or further improvements to The Mem that will keep the momentum going.
Despite a disappointing end to the season and a relatively lowly placed finish, we comfortably avoided a relegation scrap and the squad have another year's experience at a higher level and with the right signings during the summer perhaps a top 10 finish for 23/24 leading to an all out assault on promotion for 24/25.
Is it too much to ask?
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Post by Tilly's Thighs on May 17, 2023 19:02:26 GMT
I agree that he wouldn't get the same autonomy at another club
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Post by Deleted on May 17, 2023 19:03:36 GMT
Lost me at “social media”
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Post by stuart1974 on May 17, 2023 19:13:56 GMT
I agree that he wouldn't get the same autonomy at another club According to one school of thought, Barton practically owns the club in all but name with his acolytes in key positions and loaning money. 🫣 On a more serious note, I can't see he's yet proven for some of those clubs. Maybe in a year or two. |
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Post by Topper Gas on May 17, 2023 19:20:55 GMT
I doubt JB's done a lot this season to catch the bigger clubs eye, if he does ever leave we'll get decent compensation and can then get somebody else who causes Wael/TG less hassle.
I doubt Blackpool would ever appoint an ex Fleetwood manager that would be like City appointing DC if Pearson quit.
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Post by Topper Gas on May 17, 2023 19:23:43 GMT
I agree that he wouldn't get the same autonomy at another club According to one school of thought, Barton practically owns the club in all but name with his acolytes in key positions and loaning money. 🫣 On a more serious note, I can't see he's yet proven for some of those clubs. Maybe in a year or two. I think you meant controls rather than owns, although the loan position is a real mystery given the initial loan seems to have pre-dated JB's arrival at the club. |
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Post by stuart1974 on May 17, 2023 19:38:35 GMT
According to one school of thought, Barton practically owns the club in all but name with his acolytes in key positions and loaning money. 🫣 On a more serious note, I can't see he's yet proven for some of those clubs. Maybe in a year or two. I think you meant controls rather than owns, although the loan position is a real mystery given the initial loan seems to have pre-dated JB's arrival at the club. Figure of speech, but the timing of the rumour and who has suggested a connection, is interesting because as you say, it's been around in smaller amounts, a while. |
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Post by kruger on May 17, 2023 21:13:02 GMT
He is the best manager since Holloway imo, he gets us and he's passionate, Holloway has said it himself. Accept for the 1 or 2 on here I think most see that
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Post by gas2 on May 17, 2023 21:27:40 GMT
Do you think j b could use his charm and get man City or everton to come here to play a pre season friendly ?
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Post by pucklegas on May 17, 2023 21:32:31 GMT
Love Joey's passion but I'm better on football manager and the refs love me 😂🏴☠️
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Post by yattongas on May 17, 2023 22:27:34 GMT
He is the best manager since Holloway imo, he gets us and he's passionate, Holloway has said it himself. Accept for the 1 or 2 on here I think most see that Sort of agree with this but it’ll only be confirmed if we have a decent season coming up. We played some cracking football a *few* times last season , second half at home to Plymouth being the highlight imo. Needs to sort out the defence with at least two really good signings , a ball playing midfielder and a dog of war type just behind him and a winger with genuine pace and trickery. Tough ask with our budget but if he gets a few diamonds and we challenge next season Barton can start to be talked about as a great Rovers manager. |
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Post by stuart1974 on May 17, 2023 22:52:01 GMT
He is the best manager since Holloway imo, he gets us and he's passionate, Holloway has said it himself. Accept for the 1 or 2 on here I think most see that Sort of agree with this but it’ll only be confirmed if we have a decent season coming up. We’ve played some cracking football a *few* times last season , second half at home to Plymouth being the highlight imo. Needs to sort out the defence with at least two really good signings , a ball playing midfielder and a dog of war type just behind him and a winger with genuine pace and trickery. Tough ask with our budget but if he gets a few diamonds and we challenge next season Barton can start to be talked about as a great Rovers manager. This coming season could well determine whether JB pushes himself into the top group of managers we've had or he becomes another who didn't quite get there. In fact, on and off the pitch, the next 12 months could be the making of the club. |
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Post by yattongas on May 17, 2023 22:58:57 GMT
Sort of agree with this but it’ll only be confirmed if we have a decent season coming up. We’ve played some cracking football a *few* times last season , second half at home to Plymouth being the highlight imo. Needs to sort out the defence with at least two really good signings , a ball playing midfielder and a dog of war type just behind him and a winger with genuine pace and trickery. Tough ask with our budget but if he gets a few diamonds and we challenge next season Barton can start to be talked about as a great Rovers manager. This coming season could well determine whether JB pushes himself into the top group of managers we've had or he becomes another who didn't quite get there. In fact, on and off the pitch, the next 12 months could be the making of the club. If I was a betting man ( I sometimes have a £5 bet 😮) , I think he will and as a club we’re on the up . * No one is allowed to pull me up on this in 12 months time when we get relegated! 😂 |
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Post by stuart1974 on May 17, 2023 23:15:19 GMT
This coming season could well determine whether JB pushes himself into the top group of managers we've had or he becomes another who didn't quite get there. In fact, on and off the pitch, the next 12 months could be the making of the club. If I was a betting man ( I sometimes have a £5 bet 😮) , I think he will and as a club we’re on the up . * No one is allowed to pull me up on this in 12 months time when we get relegated! 😂 Quietly optimistic. 🤞 |
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Post by aghast on May 17, 2023 23:18:38 GMT
He is the best manager since Holloway imo, he gets us and he's passionate, Holloway has said it himself. Accept for the 1 or 2 on here I think most see that I'm seriously trying to look at this from an unbiased point of view and wonder what makes you say he's the best manager since Holloway? I would say he's unproven. An exciting promotion, a relegation for which he was not particularly responsible, a modest season in League 1 with a collapse at the end, which I can forgive because we were safe and he was tinkering to find who stays and goes. I know we've all been here before, and I'm not trying to slate the bloke, and I haven't even mentioned the issues he has, but I honestly cannot see how in purely footballing terms you can say he's better than DC. Maybe on a par with Trollope, which is ok. Maybe on a par with GC. You can talk about nice football and good crowds, and that's great, it really is, but in terms of league points it means little. So although I will admit I don't like him, I'm willing to wait and see. I'm certainly not going to say he's the best manager for 20 years when the facts would suggest it's not possible to say that. |
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Post by playtowin on May 18, 2023 4:10:54 GMT
I doubt JB's done a lot this season to catch the bigger clubs eye, if he does ever leave we'll get decent compensation and can then get somebody else who causes Wael/TG less hassle. I doubt Blackpool would ever appoint an ex Fleetwood manager that would be like City appointing DC if Pearson quit. John Ward..... |
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Post by oldie on May 18, 2023 5:23:13 GMT
He is the best manager since Holloway imo, he gets us and he's passionate, Holloway has said it himself. Accept for the 1 or 2 on here I think most see that I'm seriously trying to look at this from an unbiased point of view and wonder what makes you say he's the best manager since Holloway? I would say he's unproven. An exciting promotion, a relegation for which he was not particularly responsible, a modest season in League 1 with a collapse at the end, which I can forgive because we were safe and he was tinkering to find who stays and goes. I know we've all been here before, and I'm not trying to slate the bloke, and I haven't even mentioned the issues he has, but I honestly cannot see how in purely footballing terms you can say he's better than DC. Maybe on a par with Trollope, which is ok. Maybe on a par with GC. You can talk about nice football and good crowds, and that's great, it really is, but in terms of league points it means little. So although I will admit I don't like him, I'm willing to wait and see. I'm certainly not going to say he's the best manager for 20 years when the facts would suggest it's not possible to say that. No point in stating the facts Aghast |
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Post by Gasshole on May 18, 2023 5:51:54 GMT
He’s gonna do a Luton.
I fully expect to see a statue of him and Wael at the Fruitihad.
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Post by socrates on May 18, 2023 6:37:59 GMT
He is the best manager since Holloway imo, he gets us and he's passionate, Holloway has said it himself. Accept for the 1 or 2 on here I think most see that I'm seriously trying to look at this from an unbiased point of view and wonder what makes you say he's the best manager since Holloway? I would say he's unproven. An exciting promotion, a relegation for which he was not particularly responsible, a modest season in League 1 with a collapse at the end, which I can forgive because we were safe and he was tinkering to find who stays and goes. I know we've all been here before, and I'm not trying to slate the bloke, and I haven't even mentioned the issues he has, but I honestly cannot see how in purely footballing terms you can say he's better than DC. Maybe on a par with Trollope, which is ok. Maybe on a par with GC. You can talk about nice football and good crowds, and that's great, it really is, but in terms of league points it means little. So although I will admit I don't like him, I'm willing to wait and see. I'm certainly not going to say he's the best manager for 20 years when the facts would suggest it's not possible to say that. I think DC was a better manager for us than Barton has been so far but Barton’s done quite well. I’d be disappointed if he left this summer he’s definitely got unfinished business here. |
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Post by percy on May 18, 2023 7:10:59 GMT
Barton demonstrably is not the greatest since Holloway, but I get why he is a favourite for many. I like his passion too.
Big 6 months for him. Fail again during the transfer window and get off to another bad start and he’ll rightly be gone by Christmas.
Optimistic he will get it right this summer, tho.
Then he just needs to play to our strengths and stop acting like a 19yr old terrace billy big bollox.
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