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Post by pirate on Nov 20, 2023 14:14:45 GMT
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Post by pucklegas on Nov 20, 2023 14:30:20 GMT
This could be quite a game changer for our finances! 😂🏴☠️
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Post by curlywurly on Nov 20, 2023 14:34:12 GMT
Just speculating, but the total Quarters site is approx 27 acres. If the entire site was to be redeveloped for housing, that would equate to over 400 homes. As others have asked, not immediately pursuing the extension of the changing room block, despite planning permission, might suggest a consideration of options.
The identified phase 3 area of the site is about 6.5 acres, which could comfortably accommodate the 70 residential dwellings earmarked in the Local Development Plan, particularly as any housing development will need to accommodate a portion of 'affordable' homes.
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Post by Finnish Gas on Nov 20, 2023 15:03:02 GMT
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Post by curlywurly on Nov 20, 2023 15:26:57 GMT
Suspect or know?
This wasn't an agricultural land sale, and previous housing plans had failed there, so I'm not sure that any overage provision would be too onerous. Time will tell.
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Post by amgas on Nov 20, 2023 15:29:18 GMT
Googling suggests 6.5 Acres = 2.5 Hectares @ £3 million per hectare in South Glos so maybe 7.5 Million - would be a good return on around 2.5 Million I think training ground cost.
Apparently you can expect 30-40 houses per hectare in countryside so sounds about right ....
As mentioned not sure if there is a sell on clause ....
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 20, 2023 15:44:41 GMT
Googling suggests 6.5 Acres = 2.5 Hectares @ £3 million per hectare in South Glos so maybe 7.5 Million - would be a good return on around 2.5 Million I think training ground cost. Apparently you can expect 30-40 houses per hectare in countryside so sounds about right .... As mentioned not sure if there is a sell on clause .... Assuming the houses built are executive homes like the nearby Hortham Hospital development, there's no way the land will sell for as little as £100K a plot, more like £250K+. All a bit odd Wael sold up just as the club could be coming into some big money? |
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Post by curlywurly on Nov 20, 2023 15:45:49 GMT
Googling suggests 6.5 Acres = 2.5 Hectares @ £3 million per hectare in South Glos so maybe 7.5 Million - would be a good return on around 2.5 Million I think training ground cost. Apparently you can expect 30-40 houses per hectare in countryside so sounds about right .... As mentioned not sure if there is a sell on clause .... From the other place:
Nov 18, 2023 at 5:07pm swissgas said: It was Steve who persuaded Hani Al-Qadi to pay £1.1 million for the land at Colony Farm and, together with other Gasheads, made an ambitious attempt to persuade him to approve investment in a modern state of the art development there. www.punchline-gloucester.com/articles/aanews/county-firm-wins-deal-for-new-football-training-groundBut his most important contribution to Rovers future was the negotiation of the land purchase without an overage agreement which would have given the previous owners a share of any profits if it was later sold. If such a clause had been included then we probably wouldn’t now be discussing how Rovers can make the most beneficial use of the land at the training ground.
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Post by stuart1974 on Nov 20, 2023 15:49:00 GMT
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Post by Finnish Gas on Nov 20, 2023 17:22:50 GMT
Amazed about the limited response to this thread, the subject of which appears so important to the future of the club in terms of generating income to facilitate improvements at the Mem.
Absolutely delighted if I there is no overage / clawback agreement as suggested above. Most landowners would have incorporated overage in sale conditions.
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Post by oliverhelmet on Nov 20, 2023 17:26:49 GMT
Didn’t Swiss gas say the money spent on the land/training ground would have been better invested in the playing squad at the time? Never mind,can’t get them all right. |
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Post by yattongas on Nov 20, 2023 17:52:27 GMT
Amazed about the limited response to this thread, the subject of which appears so important to the future of the club in terms of generating income to facilitate improvements at the Mem. Absolutely delighted if I there is no overage / clawback agreement as suggested above. Most landowners would have incorporated overage in sale conditions. If the money is reinvested in the club …… who knows ? |
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 20, 2023 18:07:11 GMT
Not sure we should be getting carried as just noticed that this is a 15 year plan by S Glos! Unless for some reason pp is rushed though for the Hortham Farm site it could be 10+ years before the land is developed, that's assuming the plan is even agreed by the Government Inspector.
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 20, 2023 18:08:36 GMT
Didn’t Swiss gas say the money spent on the land/training ground would have been better invested in the playing squad at the time? Never mind,can’t get them all right. SG's been continually posting that suggesting we'd be far better renting a training ground!! |
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Post by gasheadontour on Nov 20, 2023 18:27:31 GMT
Build a stadium there?
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Post by singupgas on Nov 20, 2023 19:03:02 GMT
Is this land that was once marked for later stages of the training ground development?
From what little I know, there is no indoor training facility at the The quarters? Which I imagine could be quite useful.
I guess the club need to raise money somehow if we are struggling.
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Post by amgas on Nov 20, 2023 19:24:52 GMT
hosted.southglos.gov.uk/callforsites/SG926.pdfNow that is interesting reading ...... Not as simple as building on the unused land it would appear. Love how they have redacted the clubs name in part of it then publish a letter with full info .... Jump to last Page of the document - it has the proposed site layout plan with training pitches moved, not using the phase 3 land ........ Basically building on the lovely pitches and starting again ...... to the right of current pitches. Must be some money in that land to do that. Plans drawn on 31st March 2023 .... Whilst I don't generally knock the owners you have to feel it is a poor planning to build the training pitches and then build houses on top of them having to redo pitches elsewhere ....
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Post by Gasshole on Nov 20, 2023 19:36:14 GMT
I’d be keen to buy a House at the Quarters, then I could spend an eternity moaning about noise, traffic, tree felling, floodlights and the smell of burnt sausage rolls…… have I missed anything ?
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Post by yattongas on Nov 20, 2023 19:45:53 GMT
hosted.southglos.gov.uk/callforsites/SG926.pdfNow that is interesting reading ...... Not as simple as building on the unused land it would appear. Love how they have redacted the clubs name in part of it then publish a letter with full info .... Jump to last Page of the document - it has the proposed site layout plan with training pitches moved, not using the phase 3 land ........ Basically building on the lovely pitches and starting again ...... to the right of current pitches. Must be some money in that land to do that. Plans drawn on 31st March 2023 .... Whilst I don't generally knock the owners you have to feel it is a poor planning to build the training pitches and then build houses on top of them having to redo pitches elsewhere .... Do the plans include building on the land opposite the quarters ( Bristol caravans & motorhomes ) as well ? |
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Post by stuart1974 on Nov 20, 2023 19:57:02 GMT
hosted.southglos.gov.uk/callforsites/SG926.pdfNow that is interesting reading ...... Not as simple as building on the unused land it would appear. Love how they have redacted the clubs name in part of it then publish a letter with full info .... Jump to last Page of the document - it has the proposed site layout plan with training pitches moved, not using the phase 3 land ........ Basically building on the lovely pitches and starting again ...... to the right of current pitches. Must be some money in that land to do that. Plans drawn on 31st March 2023 .... Whilst I don't generally knock the owners you have to feel it is a poor planning to build the training pitches and then build houses on top of them having to redo pitches elsewhere .... Last page states 31.03.2022? |
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