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Post by gaseous on Jan 26, 2015 19:42:48 GMT
Just been having a look at the stats and DC's win percentage is the best and that goes back to the 90's, only Gerry Francis comes anywhere near and that was the first time when we won promotion, now I don't want tempt fate but you have to admit he has started off his managerial career with us very well. Long may it continue.
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Post by Mark Ash on Jan 26, 2015 19:48:08 GMT
I suppose the level we are playing at must be taken into account, but he's doing well.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2015 20:12:09 GMT
I suppose the level we are playing at must be taken into account, but he's doing well. Why must it? Are we playing in the Conference with Championship players?
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Post by Mark Ash on Jan 26, 2015 20:19:07 GMT
I take your point, Hugo, but I lthink that it's easier for a club our size to improve fast against these teams than it would be to compete in the Championship. Don't think we could afford to do it there.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2015 20:21:50 GMT
Love me some Darrell. No intelligent comment to attempt, just love me some Darrell. His little trainee recruitment consultant side parting. His ability to make me feel good about the team again.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2015 20:32:58 GMT
I suppose the level we are playing at must be taken into account, but he's doing well. I suppose the eight games where he was handed a badly misfiring squad with serious confidence issues after the transfer window had shut must be taken into account too?
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Post by Mark Ash on Jan 26, 2015 20:57:43 GMT
I suppose the level we are playing at must be taken into account, but he's doing well. I suppose the eight games where he was handed a badly misfiring squad with serious confidence issues after the transfer window had shut must be taken into account too? Yes. He's done well, as I said. I think we'd all agree though that Bristol Rovers is a very big club by Conference standards and that gives advantages. We keep being told that the level of our support has enabled us to bring in players and although in some ways we are skint, we have more spending power than most in this league. Our players are full-time, while half the opposition has to train in the evenings after repairing washing-machines or delivering letters all day. We also have status down here: players at this level are more excited at the prospect of playing for Bristol Rovers than for, say, Nuneaton or Alfreton or almost all the rest. That helps us to sign and keep people too. All that increases pressure of course and I think DC is extremely level-headed and looks like he will operate at a higher level at some point, with or without us. But I think we'd all be a bit more outraged than Nuneaton fans would be if we found ourselves at the other end of this league, given what we offer a manager. But we know better than most how managers can chuff things up, even with advantages. DC's doing well
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Post by gaseous on Jan 26, 2015 21:05:34 GMT
I just think that after so many recently poor managers and bad results he has with his tactical nous(not every game), attitude and recruitment steadied what was a badly sinking ship and he has to be given credit for that especially when a lot fans had the knives out for him after relegation.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2015 21:05:36 GMT
Ok, let's say you are right Mark Ash. We are the biggest kid in the playground. Doesn't that then mean that everyone ups their game when they play us? We are a big target and playing us is like a cup final every week for half the teams in this league. (I'm not this arrogant but am making a point) Doesn't that then make DCs win rate even more impressive?
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Post by gaseous on Jan 26, 2015 21:20:10 GMT
Actually funny enough he's our 13th manager since Gerry's (nearest win ratio) first reign not counting caretaker's.
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Post by Captain Jayho on Jan 26, 2015 21:20:38 GMT
I suppose the level we are playing at must be taken into account, but he's doing well. I suppose the eight games where he was handed a badly misfiring squad with serious confidence issues after the transfer window had shut must be taken into account too? And important to note how many of the wins have come as a result of penalties. Because as we have been made aware those don't count.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jan 26, 2015 21:24:57 GMT
Let's face facts apart from the top 5 or 6 teams the league is pretty awful, whilst teams at the start of the season may have raised their game that effect probably reduces as the season progresses.
DC's shown he's a decent manager but it's hard to judge how good he is until we're back punching at our own weight in Div 2, after all we lost to Tranmere when they were on a poor run.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2015 21:26:45 GMT
Not a dig at DC who is doing very well and may go on to shine at a better level but its far easier to win as a big budgeted club against semi pro teams then playing as rag bag Rovers without a pot to water in at championship level. Any comparison is daft.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 26, 2015 21:37:16 GMT
Jesus wept.
I'll be Dam glad when we are playing again.
Can't we just have one subject where we are all positive without having to pick the arse out of it to turn it into something less so??
He can only beat what's in front of him with the budget he has.
Yes it's bigger than others, but wasn't that also the case last season and the season before that? Isn't that why we are so in debt because all I read is how the Board wasted so much money on the playing budget back then?
Other managers have had a big budget relative to our peers and have won less but let's pick apart what our bright young manager is doing because it's fun to pick holes and somehow nothing positive anyone does at Bristol Rovers counts.
Maybe I should go for a walk.
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Post by gaseous on Jan 26, 2015 21:57:15 GMT
Jesus wept. I'll be flipping glad when we are playing again. Can't we just have one subject where we are all positive without having to pick the arse out of it to turn it into something less so?? He can only beat what's in front of him with the budget he has. Yes it's bigger than others, but wasn't that also the case last season and the season before that? Isn't that why we are so in debt because all I read is how the Board wasted so much money on the playing budget back then? Other managers have had a big budget relative to our peers and have won less but let's pick apart what our bright young manager is doing because it's fun to pick holes and somehow nothing positive anyone does at Bristol Rovers counts. Maybe I should go for a walk. Other manager's have had big budgets, remember Mr Magoo and his 3-5 yr contracts. DC is IMO exactly what we needed to take us forward and may be a step back was just that, shame it was to the conference. Not his fault, of course, IMO
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Post by aghast on Jan 26, 2015 22:53:15 GMT
There can surely be no doubt about it. Despite the gloom from some pre-season (including me in my darkest hours in May), the boy has done a great job so far.
I think Barnet might be a little bit too far ahead to catch now, but I don't care. I will be at Wembley in May when we beat the last non-league side we'll ever have to face (except for the FA Cup), along with 40,000 other nutty fans who will celebrate our return to our rightful place. Worries aplenty after that about budgets, stadiums etc, but WHEN we go up, he will be DE MAN.
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Post by aghast on Jan 26, 2015 22:53:58 GMT
oops posted twice ignore. Ignore this one. Not the other one. Or ignore that one if you want. I don't care.
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Post by Mark Ash on Jan 26, 2015 23:34:57 GMT
Ok, let's say you are right Mark Ash. We are the biggest kid in the playground. Doesn't that then mean that everyone ups their game when they play us? We are a big target and playing us is like a cup final every week for half the teams in this league. (I'm not this arrogant but am making a point) Doesn't that then make DCs win rate even more impressive? Yes, it can be a factor, I'm sure, but if we're not careful that line of reasoning says,"the bigger the gap between one team and another, the harder it becomes for the bigger team", which obviously is flawed. (Although, Chelsea, Man U and Man City have all been embarrassed this weekend by that dynamic.) I seem to be cast on this thread to play the part of Anti-DC Man, which makes me smile a bit, as I was one of only a handful on here who were behind him at the start of the season. Now, it seems that saying he's doing well is considered not loyal enough! Oh well, I'm glad it's turned round for him and for all of us.
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Post by Mark Ash on Jan 26, 2015 23:47:28 GMT
Jesus wept. I'll be flipping glad when we are playing again. Can't we just have one subject where we are all positive without having to pick the arse out of it to turn it into something less so?? He can only beat what's in front of him with the budget he has. Yes it's bigger than others, but wasn't that also the case last season and the season before that? Isn't that why we are so in debt because all I read is how the Board wasted so much money on the playing budget back then? Other managers have had a big budget relative to our peers and have won less but let's pick apart what our bright young manager is doing because it's fun to pick holes and somehow nothing positive anyone does at Bristol Rovers counts. Maybe I should go for a walk. Lawks, Hugo, I'm beginning to feel as if I've drawn a picture of Mohammed or something. We're only discussing how well he's done, ranging from doing very well to somewhere in Brian Clough territory. No-one's saying that what he's done "doesn't count". We have to discuss things and not just be cheerleaders: I don't know about you, but my legs just aren't up to that and at my time of life those short skirts are liable to give me rheumatism. I think DC is doing very well. He's the best we've had since Trollope, obviously, and he may be better. We'll see!
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Post by Fetch on Jan 27, 2015 0:01:14 GMT
i love his lazy eye
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