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Post by Deleted on Apr 28, 2024 6:06:03 GMT
He did, but only after signing EA who let's be fair, was an absolute cheat code. Let's not forget that we got battered 4-1 at Exeter by a Matt Taylor Exeter side and scraped a 2-2 draw at the Mem with said cheat code. MT built an excellent Exeter side who played very good football. Does Taylor have the contacts to get himself an Eliot Anderson type of cheat code loan if needed? I doubt it. Friend might have, fingers crossed. Seeing absolutely no evidence of good football here, quite the opposite. Where is the evidence of his coaching ability or man management skills here? Frighteningly similar patterns to Rotherham, struggling to score and conceding 2 a game. In fact, record breaking games without scoring here. Absolutely abysmal. Looking back at his recruitment record at Exeter and Rotherham there is nothing to suggest he is the right man to lead a rebuild here and he also doesn't have the personality to inspire confidence or energise the fanbase. The recent dwindling attendances must have rang alarm bells. Keep him and we have to be one of the favourites for relegation next season. View AttachmentWe probably are already in the group of Burton shrewsbury Cambridge and us for the drop. Can't see us being offered quality on loan for a team whose target will be to stay in the division |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Apr 28, 2024 6:27:53 GMT
Just because Taylor is doing poorly, that doesn't mean it wasn't right to sack Barton. I'm still glad he's gone and once there has been a clear out of the fantastic top 8 squad he assembled then we will be a lot better off. You're a mod, so...OK then. Who the heck mentioned Barton? Not me. He was sacked rightly. Taylor is dogshit. What does me being a mod have to do with anything? You didn't mention Barton explicitly, but the "we've got our Rovers back" mantra that you have used several times sarcasticly in reference to Taylor certainly implies a reference to Barton. |
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Post by DrFaustus on Apr 28, 2024 6:42:53 GMT
Hugo, you're a mod and you're forever banning people, so I'll type slowly so you don't get confused...it was nothing to do with Barton. Again, slowly...I'm glad he's gone and wish Taylor was gone too.
Clear enough?
UTFG 🏴☠️
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Post by gashead1981 on Apr 28, 2024 6:58:07 GMT
Hugo, you're a mod and you're forever banning people, so I'll type slowly so you don't get confused...it was nothing to do with Barton. Again, slowly...I'm glad he's gone and wish Taylor was gone too. Clear enough? UTFG 🏴☠️ Hugo doesn't ban people, the whole mod team do and we only do when people can't control themselves and consistently won't listen to a bit of helpful advice. Say what you want to Hugo, he'll give you his own opinion and trust me, he's far more sufferable to dickheads than I am. |
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Post by DrFaustus on Apr 28, 2024 7:02:19 GMT
OK. So using your logic, I'm a dickhead who needs helpful advice?
Thanks all the same, but all fine here Mr 1981.
Taylor out.
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Post by supergas on Apr 28, 2024 7:29:00 GMT
In the last 18 league games, we have gained a whopping 23 points. We've scored 18 goals and conceded 37.* Thank goodness we "have our Rovers back" as it would be terrible otherwise. Taylor out and UTFG. 🏴☠️ *Stats provided by the one non drinker in our group of 10, who've been here (Manchester) since yesterday. It's still freezing. In the last 18 league games we gained 20 points, scored 13 and conceded 29 (so GD -16). In comparison for the first 18 games of the season we got 24 points and for the first 18 games with Taylor in charge we got 25 points. Across the season we averaged 1.24 PPG. In the last 18 games that was 1.11, in the first 18 it was 1.33 and for a 'random' 18-game mid-season snapshot we were 1.39PPG The one constant across the season is the 24+ first-team players. We can conclude their standard is between 1.1 and 1.4 PPG, and that's exactly where we finished.... |
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Post by returnofthedust on Apr 28, 2024 7:33:41 GMT
I can't believe anyone would trust Taylor to lead a rebuild. You posted that article previously. All you need to do is replace "Rotherham" with "Bristol Rovers" and the article could have been written about us. One of the biggest issues that I see is not about the owners, not about the players. It is the fans. All of a sudden our fan base is demanding success that we have only had three times in our history and they seem to view anything else unacceptable. These same fans also say, it's too expensive to follow Rovers. They are also the ones saying, that's it I'm not going any more. They are also saying Premiership football fans are "plastics" all the while sneering at teams for "buying success". Maybe Buckle was right, we are a league one club. We do not have wealthy owners who will buy the league, we have to do it the hard way. We have lots in common with Rotherham, maybe we should be focus more on how they seem to get success with similar attendances to ours. The fans are demanding more because it’s what we’ve been promised by the previous majority owner and the previous manager. Anyone with a half functioning brain that has an iota of football knowledge could see the club was nowhere near ready for a tilt at the top 6, yet the previous manager and the previous majority owner kept on banging away about having a go at it and getting the club to the championship. We’ve now got the new majority owner who started out with telling us that The Premier League is the long term goal. That then moved to Championship within 3 years and has now been adjusted in his latest interview to 3-5 years. The reality is that Bristol Rovers are absolutely miles and miles away from being a club who will consistently challenge for a place in The Champ and even further away from being a side that are remotely close to being able to stay there. Yet we have been continually fed bluff about going up etc. We’d be better off to just accept the fact that it’s going to take a long time until we get to the stage where we can have a go. |
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Post by DrFaustus on Apr 28, 2024 8:00:49 GMT
We were 13th when Super Matt took over, with a game in hand on 11th place, which had we won it (stop sniggering at the back), we'd have been 11th.
We finished 15th. A great improvement by Taylor (out).
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Post by Topper Gas on Apr 28, 2024 8:02:10 GMT
You posted that article previously. All you need to do is replace "Rotherham" with "Bristol Rovers" and the article could have been written about us. One of the biggest issues that I see is not about the owners, not about the players. It is the fans. All of a sudden our fan base is demanding success that we have only had three times in our history and they seem to view anything else unacceptable. These same fans also say, it's too expensive to follow Rovers. They are also the ones saying, that's it I'm not going any more. They are also saying Premiership football fans are "plastics" all the while sneering at teams for "buying success". Maybe Buckle was right, we are a league one club. We do not have wealthy owners who will buy the league, we have to do it the hard way. We have lots in common with Rotherham, maybe we should be focus more on how they seem to get success with similar attendances to ours. The fans are demanding more because it’s what we’ve been promised by the previous majority owner and the previous manager. Anyone with a half functioning brain that has an iota of football knowledge could see the club was nowhere near ready for a tilt at the top 6, yet the previous manager and the previous majority owner kept on banging away about having a go at it and getting the club to the championship. We’ve now got the new majority owner who started out with telling us that The Premier League is the long term goal. That then moved to Championship within 3 years and has now been adjusted in his latest interview to 3-5 years. The reality is that Bristol Rovers are absolutely miles and miles away from being a club who will consistently challenge for a place in The Champ and even further away from being a side that are remotely close to being able to stay there. Yet we have been continually fed bluff about going up etc. We’d be better off to just accept the fact that it’s going to take a long time until we get to the stage where we can have a go. What's the betting Wrexham and Stockport will both have a go at being a top 6 side next season, can they really have better infrastructures than us or Oxford this season? We were fed rubbish by Wael about a top 6 push this season, now we're being given rubbish but building an infrastructure before we can make a top 6 push. Will just be aiming for mid-table really sell season tickets, replica shirts, or attract good players this summer? |
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Post by returnofthedust on Apr 28, 2024 8:04:58 GMT
We were 13th when Super Matt took over, with a game in hand on 11th place, which had we won it (stop sniggering at the back), we'd have been 11th. We finished 15th. A great improvement by Taylor (out). 🏴☠️ Can I assume you won’t look at the squad next summer and predict 6th place again? It’s an improvement on last season but it’s not been good enough since the end of January. |
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Post by gashead1981 on Apr 28, 2024 8:05:22 GMT
OK. So using your logic, I'm a dickhead who needs helpful advice? Thanks all the same, but all fine here Mr 1981. Taylor out. That's not what I've said is it. Slowly... You've said Hugo bans people. I've said he doesn't but the mod team does. The forums policy is "don't be a dick", a fairly straightforward rule. However the only time people get banned is when they are being a dick. We don't ban people for having an opinion, even if you're debating an opinion with a mod. We also warn people before it even gets to ban stage. Which is why I said say what you want to Hugo, he'll debate with you he's more tolerant to people than I am. |
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Post by returnofthedust on Apr 28, 2024 8:08:32 GMT
The fans are demanding more because it’s what we’ve been promised by the previous majority owner and the previous manager. Anyone with a half functioning brain that has an iota of football knowledge could see the club was nowhere near ready for a tilt at the top 6, yet the previous manager and the previous majority owner kept on banging away about having a go at it and getting the club to the championship. We’ve now got the new majority owner who started out with telling us that The Premier League is the long term goal. That then moved to Championship within 3 years and has now been adjusted in his latest interview to 3-5 years. The reality is that Bristol Rovers are absolutely miles and miles away from being a club who will consistently challenge for a place in The Champ and even further away from being a side that are remotely close to being able to stay there. Yet we have been continually fed bluff about going up etc. We’d be better off to just accept the fact that it’s going to take a long time until we get to the stage where we can have a go. What's the betting Wrexham and Stockport will both have a go at being a top 6 side next season, can they really have better infrastructures than us or Oxford this season? We were fed rubbish by Wael about a top 6 push this season, now we're being given rubbish but building an infrastructure before we can make a top 6 push. Will just be aiming for mid-table really sell season tickets, replica shirts, or attract good players this summer? Yes, they are. Both have a better well connected operation than we do. |
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Post by gasify on Apr 28, 2024 8:22:07 GMT
The fans are demanding more because it’s what we’ve been promised by the previous majority owner and the previous manager. Anyone with a half functioning brain that has an iota of football knowledge could see the club was nowhere near ready for a tilt at the top 6, yet the previous manager and the previous majority owner kept on banging away about having a go at it and getting the club to the championship. We’ve now got the new majority owner who started out with telling us that The Premier League is the long term goal. That then moved to Championship within 3 years and has now been adjusted in his latest interview to 3-5 years. The reality is that Bristol Rovers are absolutely miles and miles away from being a club who will consistently challenge for a place in The Champ and even further away from being a side that are remotely close to being able to stay there. Yet we have been continually fed bluff about going up etc. We’d be better off to just accept the fact that it’s going to take a long time until we get to the stage where we can have a go. What's the betting Wrexham and Stockport will both have a go at being a top 6 side next season, can they really have better infrastructures than us or Oxford this season? We were fed rubbish by Wael about a top 6 push this season, now we're being given rubbish but building an infrastructure before we can make a top 6 push. Will just be aiming for mid-table really sell season tickets, replica shirts, or attract good players this summer? Revenue of both of those clubs in the last set of accounts was more than us and Oxfords. Our revenue was lower than Oxford. When you say infrastructure, what do you mean? I take it as the ability to generate revenue. This then has a direct impact on the amount that can be spent on player wages. Both Stockport and Wrexham can spend more than us on player wages and not fall foul of any financial fair play regulations. |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Apr 28, 2024 8:39:22 GMT
Hugo, you're a mod and you're forever banning people, so I'll type slowly so you don't get confused...it was nothing to do with Barton. Again, slowly...I'm glad he's gone and wish Taylor was gone too. Clear enough? UTFG 🏴☠️ I don't ban people, they ban themselves. If you could be a little more patronising that would be good, and possibly indulge me with what you mean when you say "we've got our Rovers back" in relation to Taylor. As for Taylor Out, I'm not sure if I agree or disagree with you on that, but obviously you've watched a lot more games than I have this season. I think Taylor inherited a lot of problems that were out of his control but I also watch how he sets us up and makes substitutions and wonder what on earth he is doing. I'm not fully Taylor out, but I'm leaning that way because he really hasn't helped himself. |
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Post by gasify on Apr 28, 2024 9:11:34 GMT
Hugo, you're a mod and you're forever banning people, so I'll type slowly so you don't get confused...it was nothing to do with Barton. Again, slowly...I'm glad he's gone and wish Taylor was gone too. Clear enough? UTFG 🏴☠️ I don't ban people, they ban themselves. If you could be a little more patronising that would be good, and possibly indulge me with what you mean when you say "we've got our Rovers back" in relation to Taylor. As for Taylor Out, I'm not sure if I agree or disagree with you on that, but obviously you've watched a lot more games than I have this season. I think Taylor inherited a lot of problems that were out of his control but I also watch how he sets us up and makes substitutions and wonder what on earth he is doing. I'm not fully Taylor out, but I'm leaning that way because he really hasn't helped himself. I'm Taylor in, however I can be persuaded for Taylor out if it galvanised the fan base. The fan base split will be our downfall. |
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Post by DrFaustus on Apr 28, 2024 9:16:30 GMT
Hugo, you're a mod and you're forever banning people, so I'll type slowly so you don't get confused...it was nothing to do with Barton. Again, slowly...I'm glad he's gone and wish Taylor was gone too. Clear enough? UTFG 🏴☠️ I don't ban people, they ban themselves. If you could be a little more patronising that would be good, and possibly indulge me with what you mean when you say "we've got our Rovers back" in relation to Taylor. As for Taylor Out, I'm not sure if I agree or disagree with you on that, but obviously you've watched a lot more games than I have this season. I think Taylor inherited a lot of problems that were out of his control but I also watch how he sets us up and makes substitutions and wonder what on earth he is doing. I'm not fully Taylor out, but I'm leaning that way because he really hasn't helped himself. Not sure you need lessons, but OK. "We've got our Rovers back" was the fatuous claim when Super Matt was appointed. Just as well he's made us so much fun to watch again, got the best out of the players and has us scoring for fun, otherwise the very real prospect of relegation next season could be on the cards. As for his substitutions, yesterday was a prime example of your point. He brought on (loanee) Vaughan and left Lawrence on the bench. If it's true he didn't want the job, but Rovers hounded him, it beggars belief to imagine his salary. Have a fun summer. 🏴☠️ |
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Post by returnofthedust on Apr 28, 2024 9:38:35 GMT
I don't ban people, they ban themselves. If you could be a little more patronising that would be good, and possibly indulge me with what you mean when you say "we've got our Rovers back" in relation to Taylor. As for Taylor Out, I'm not sure if I agree or disagree with you on that, but obviously you've watched a lot more games than I have this season. I think Taylor inherited a lot of problems that were out of his control but I also watch how he sets us up and makes substitutions and wonder what on earth he is doing. I'm not fully Taylor out, but I'm leaning that way because he really hasn't helped himself. Not sure you need lessons, but OK. "We've got our Rovers back" was the fatuous claim when Super Matt was appointed. Just as well he's made us so much fun to watch again, got the best out of the players and has us scoring for fun, otherwise the very real prospect of relegation next season could be on the cards. As for his substitutions, yesterday was a prime example of your point. He brought on (loanee) Vaughan and left Lawrence on the bench. If it's true he didn't want the job, but Rovers hounded him, it beggars belief to imagine his salary. Have a fun summer. 🏴☠️ My old pal Roady really does live in your head rent free 😂 |
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Post by DrFaustus on Apr 28, 2024 10:06:00 GMT
Not sure you need lessons, but OK. "We've got our Rovers back" was the fatuous claim when Super Matt was appointed. Just as well he's made us so much fun to watch again, got the best out of the players and has us scoring for fun, otherwise the very real prospect of relegation next season could be on the cards. As for his substitutions, yesterday was a prime example of your point. He brought on (loanee) Vaughan and left Lawrence on the bench. If it's true he didn't want the job, but Rovers hounded him, it beggars belief to imagine his salary. Have a fun summer. 🏴☠️ My old pal Roady really does live in your head rent free 😂 Not for the first time, I haven't clue 1 what you're on about. Enjoy your summer. 🏴☠️ |
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Post by gashead1981 on Apr 28, 2024 10:15:30 GMT
I don't ban people, they ban themselves. If you could be a little more patronising that would be good, and possibly indulge me with what you mean when you say "we've got our Rovers back" in relation to Taylor. As for Taylor Out, I'm not sure if I agree or disagree with you on that, but obviously you've watched a lot more games than I have this season. I think Taylor inherited a lot of problems that were out of his control but I also watch how he sets us up and makes substitutions and wonder what on earth he is doing. I'm not fully Taylor out, but I'm leaning that way because he really hasn't helped himself. Not sure you need lessons, but OK. "We've got our Rovers back" was the fatuous claim when Super Matt was appointed. Just as well he's made us so much fun to watch again, got the best out of the players and has us scoring for fun, otherwise the very real prospect of relegation next season could be on the cards. As for his substitutions, yesterday was a prime example of your point. He brought on (loanee) Vaughan and left Lawrence on the bench. If it's true he didn't want the job, but Rovers hounded him, it beggars belief to imagine his salary. Have a fun summer. 🏴☠️ "We've got our rovers back" because it was no longer governed in part by the head of the Scouse mafia and his cronies Jennings and the colonel. I was overjoyed because it meant we could clap a manager and sing his name with a clear conscience and not supporting a violent, wife beating, misogynistic sewer rat of a person. Also, after half of last season and the first 13 games of this season it was clear that after spending £4.5m that 4 wins (1 win in 6) with a squad full of pensioners and crocks that we were going to be more relegation fodder than we were play off contenders. Once the real effect of the mafias spending spree took hold, Ward, Wilson, Hunt, Finley, LMc, playing their regulation 20-25 games, the rest of them that weren't good enough Cox,Grant (did he make 20 games) Crama, Gordon, Javani, Collony (conceding goals for fun in L2 at Morecambe and not making the starting 11 there and couldn't even dislodge Grant from CB 😂) Were massively exposed. Add in the sale of Collins and basically you're turning up with 5 players good enough. Are you surprised at MTs frustration? I mean, at least he kept working at it unlike wife beater who came in and because he decided the players were what he liked, gave up and got us relegated. So yes, having a proper person in charge, by proper I mean a decent human being who's ego isn't the size of wife beaters admittedly, is kind of like having a part of Bristol Rovers back where we would have never employed such a repugnant piece of 💩to begin with. |
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Post by warehamgas on Apr 28, 2024 10:15:57 GMT
You posted that article previously. All you need to do is replace "Rotherham" with "Bristol Rovers" and the article could have been written about us. One of the biggest issues that I see is not about the owners, not about the players. It is the fans. All of a sudden our fan base is demanding success that we have only had three times in our history and they seem to view anything else unacceptable. These same fans also say, it's too expensive to follow Rovers. They are also the ones saying, that's it I'm not going any more. They are also saying Premiership football fans are "plastics" all the while sneering at teams for "buying success". Maybe Buckle was right, we are a league one club. We do not have wealthy owners who will buy the league, we have to do it the hard way. We have lots in common with Rotherham, maybe we should be focus more on how they seem to get success with similar attendances to ours. The fans are demanding more because it’s what we’ve been promised by the previous majority owner and the previous manager. Anyone with a half functioning brain that has an iota of football knowledge could see the club was nowhere near ready for a tilt at the top 6, yet the previous manager and the previous majority owner kept on banging away about having a go at it and getting the club to the championship. We’ve now got the new majority owner who started out with telling us that The Premier League is the long term goal. That then moved to Championship within 3 years and has now been adjusted in his latest interview to 3-5 years. The reality is that Bristol Rovers are absolutely miles and miles away from being a club who will consistently challenge for a place in The Champ and even further away from being a side that are remotely close to being able to stay there. Yet we have been continually fed bluff about going up etc. We’d be better off to just accept the fact that it’s going to take a long time until we get to the stage where we can have a go. Yes, I said something similar recently that JB and Wael had raised the fans’ expectations about a challenge for the Championship when in reality when push came to shove we haven’t quite pushed on. By that I mean we have a decent spine to the team but again when it came to getting strikers and players with real pace into the team we didn’t complete the recruitment. No balance. No real problem with the recruitment last summer save for the fact we didn’t get any strikers, like 2020 and we’ve paid the price, although not so severe as 2021. And that’s been the strange part of this season. Compared to much of this century we’ve done ok yet there is a real negativity around the place and I think the fanbase expects to be challenging when in reality, as you say we are some way off. But football’s a funny game and decent recruitment this summer and keep the best of what we’ve got annd get strikers and we could challenge. If the owners want to that is. UTG! |
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