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Post by Harry The Haddock on May 9, 2015 13:08:47 GMT
Just read a post from a Gashead on the GTFC Forum, so thought it courteous to respond likewise
Firstly, welcome to the delights of non league football. I know its not what any of us would have ever wanted or even dreamt that it might one day occur, but by misfortune, here we all are.
There are teams in this division and certainly Bristol Rovers and Grimsby, that deserve to be out of this league and climbing up the divisions to where we should all rightly be.
As you are now finding out, this is without doubt, one of the hardest divisions to get out of and like you (albeit 5 years ago) we intended to bounce right back up
Having failed in the playoff semi finals in the last 2 years, this has to be our year, else go dammit, we have to get automatic 'champions' promotion next year
So, with T minus 8 days and counting until our Wembley showdown, I'm sure the best 2 teams in this league will put on a display to satisfy us all, though at the end of the day .... there can be only one
From reading both your and our forums, it looks like we are all of the same opinion, in that we will each beat each other outright, but have that niggling and sickening feeling in our stomachs of the journey home and future of the club if we don't
Having done the various trips to the old and new Wembley a few times each (as well as Cardiff) we know 2 things:-
- victory tastes better than defeat
- its not how many fans you take, its who turns up on the day and delivers the result on the pitch
That said, I commend the support that you are taking to Wembley (believe c28K v our 8K at the moment), albeit it:-
- your much closer and is hence a day trip, whereas ours is either a long day out or an overnight stay in London - for which we shall as per all previous visits be taking over Trafalgar square on Saturday afternoon
- your costs are probably £20 on travel, ours is more like £35-100
- some fans will, rather than fork our £35-100+ ticket, watch it on TV.
- All our previous Wembley and Cardiff games weren't on TV, thus more followed and it was also the new nostalgia of it. That said every latter time we went we took fewer and fewer fans
- Bristol is a City, were just a small town near Cleethorpes, hence you catchment area is so much bigger
- you fan base is currently bigger than ours (though see what 4 more years in non league does for you)
That said, were noisy buggers at GTFC, and it will be the core / singing die hards that go, so hopefully we can make us sound as loud as you lot, though to be honest, we cant understand from your southern accents what the hell you are singing anyway
Lets make it a ground record attendance and make it a day out for us all to remember
Was reading up on the forthconing High Court ruling regarding your much needed stadium, for which we wish you all the very best
We are having a fight on our own hands at the moment, trying to get approval for our new ground, though wherever we propose it, somebody always bloody objects
Anyway, sure non of us are looking for sympathy from the others, nor would they probably get it, after all, our passion is all about our club; but lets sure as hell enjoy the day
Up the Mariners
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Post by vivalagas on May 9, 2015 13:46:37 GMT
Just read a post from a Gashead on the GTFC Forum, so thought it courteous to respond likewise Firstly, welcome to the delights of non league football. I know its not what any of us would have ever wanted or even dreamt that it might one day occur, but by misfortune, here we all are. There are teams in this division and certainly Bristol Rovers and Grimsby, that deserve to be out of this league and climbing up the divisions to where we should all rightly be. As you are now finding out, this is without doubt, one of the hardest divisions to get out of and like you (albeit 5 years ago) we intended to bounce right back up Having failed in the playoff semi finals in the last 2 years, this has to be our year, else go dammit, we have to get automatic 'champions' promotion next year So, with T minus 8 days and counting until our Wembley showdown, I'm sure the best 2 teams in this league will put on a display to satisfy us all, though at the end of the day .... there can be only one From reading both your and our forums, it looks like we are all of the same opinion, in that we will each beat each other outright, but have that niggling and sickening feeling in our stomachs of the journey home and future of the club if we don't Having done the various trips to the old and new Wembley a few times each (as well as Cardiff) we know 2 things:- - victory tastes better than defeat - its not how many fans you take, its who turns up on the day and delivers the result on the pitch That said, I commend the support that you are taking to Wembley (believe c28K v our 8K at the moment), albeit it:- - your much closer and is hence a day trip, whereas ours is either a long day out or an overnight stay in London - for which we shall as per all previous visits be taking over Trafalgar square on Saturday afternoon - your costs are probably £20 on travel, ours is more like £35-100 - some fans will, rather than fork our £35-100+ ticket, watch it on TV. - All our previous Wembley and Cardiff games weren't on TV, thus more followed and it was also the new nostalgia of it. That said every latter time we went we took fewer and fewer fans - Bristol is a City, were just a small town near Cleethorpes, hence you catchment area is so much bigger - you fan base is currently bigger than ours (though see what 4 more years in non league does for you) That said, were noisy buggers at GTFC, and it will be the core / singing die hards that go, so hopefully we can make us sound as loud as you lot, though to be honest, we cant understand from your southern accents what the hell you are singing anyway Lets make it a ground record attendance and make it a day out for us all to remember Was reading up on the forthconing High Court ruling regarding your much needed stadium, for which we wish you all the very best We are having a fight on our own hands at the moment, trying to get approval for our new ground, though wherever we propose it, somebody always bloody objects Anyway, sure non of us are looking for sympathy from the others, nor would they probably get it, after all, our passion is all about our club; but lets sure as hell enjoy the day Up the Mariners yeah I didn't read much of that *yawn* |
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Post by RD on May 9, 2015 17:24:46 GMT
Just read a post from a Gashead on the GTFC Forum, so thought it courteous to respond likewise Firstly, welcome to the delights of non league football. I know its not what any of us would have ever wanted or even dreamt that it might one day occur, but by misfortune, here we all are. There are teams in this division and certainly Bristol Rovers and Grimsby, that deserve to be out of this league and climbing up the divisions to where we should all rightly be. As you are now finding out, this is without doubt, one of the hardest divisions to get out of and like you (albeit 5 years ago) we intended to bounce right back up Having failed in the playoff semi finals in the last 2 years, this has to be our year, else go dammit, we have to get automatic 'champions' promotion next year So, with T minus 8 days and counting until our Wembley showdown, I'm sure the best 2 teams in this league will put on a display to satisfy us all, though at the end of the day .... there can be only one From reading both your and our forums, it looks like we are all of the same opinion, in that we will each beat each other outright, but have that niggling and sickening feeling in our stomachs of the journey home and future of the club if we don't Having done the various trips to the old and new Wembley a few times each (as well as Cardiff) we know 2 things:- - victory tastes better than defeat - its not how many fans you take, its who turns up on the day and delivers the result on the pitch That said, I commend the support that you are taking to Wembley (believe c28K v our 8K at the moment), albeit it:- - your much closer and is hence a day trip, whereas ours is either a long day out or an overnight stay in London - for which we shall as per all previous visits be taking over Trafalgar square on Saturday afternoon - your costs are probably £20 on travel, ours is more like £35-100 - some fans will, rather than fork our £35-100+ ticket, watch it on TV. - All our previous Wembley and Cardiff games weren't on TV, thus more followed and it was also the new nostalgia of it. That said every latter time we went we took fewer and fewer fans - Bristol is a City, were just a small town near Cleethorpes, hence you catchment area is so much bigger - you fan base is currently bigger than ours (though see what 4 more years in non league does for you) That said, were noisy buggers at GTFC, and it will be the core / singing die hards that go, so hopefully we can make us sound as loud as you lot, though to be honest, we cant understand from your southern accents what the hell you are singing anyway Lets make it a ground record attendance and make it a day out for us all to remember Was reading up on the forthconing High Court ruling regarding your much needed stadium, for which we wish you all the very best We are having a fight on our own hands at the moment, trying to get approval for our new ground, though wherever we propose it, somebody always bloody objects Anyway, sure non of us are looking for sympathy from the others, nor would they probably get it, after all, our passion is all about our club; but lets sure as hell enjoy the day Up the Mariners yeah I didn't read much of that *yawn* Why not? Was a good post. Really not getting the hate? Good post Harry |
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Post by inee on May 9, 2015 17:25:52 GMT
If you hand that in on monday even your teacher will give you a slap
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Post by seanclevedongas on May 9, 2015 17:44:36 GMT
Come on Gas we can be more welcoming than that - I enjoyed the read too
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Post by msngas on May 9, 2015 17:50:18 GMT
Come on Gas we can be more welcoming than that - I enjoyed the read too Likewise |
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Post by Deleted on May 9, 2015 18:48:56 GMT
No need to make excuses for the support you're taking, it's great for this level and how hard it is for you and most people understand that. In terms of the "your costs are probably £20 on travel" a train from Bristol to London is £40 with a 16-25 card so probably not as cheap as you expect, but still not as dear as yours.
Hope you finish top next season, and avoid the playoffs.
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Post by Gastafari on May 9, 2015 19:07:47 GMT
Why do some Gasheads have to be so hostile? It is embarrassing!
Good post Haddock!
Obviously I hope we stuff you at Wembley, but good luck nonetheless, Grimsby like us should at least be in League One, I hope you win The Conference next season.
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Post by surreygas on May 9, 2015 19:10:14 GMT
Seems like Harry is making excuses. Rovers have been to Wembley 3 times and Millenium once. Not much different from Grimsby. Grimsby/Cleethorpes population is 160,000. Bristol is 420,000 - split between two teams (plus a well supported rugby team). Admittedly, Bristol is only 2-3 hours from Wembley wheareas Grimsby is 3-4 hours away but for a big game like this that shouldn't put people off.
I also think Harry is underestimating how noisy Gasheads are when he refers to Grimsby fans being noisy buggers.Both fans will be noisy (I hope!) but if current ticket sale numbers are anything to go by we will have 3-4 times as many fans so it will be difficult to compete with that.
Of course all of this means nothing when it comes to the result on Sunday - it is often the case that the club with the smaller support wins - you only have to look at Rovers attendances vs league 2 teams to realise that it is irrelevant how many more fans we have than other teams. We have no given right to be in the league - neither should we assume that we are nailed on to win on Sunday.
But the football league is better off with teams like Rovers and Grimsby so I hope whoever loses the final gets promotion next year.
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Post by Russgas on May 9, 2015 19:12:22 GMT
I'm glad we are playing Grimsby in the final,because if we do lose, than at least they are a deserving club with a decent fan base.Losing to a toy town club like Eastleigh would of been so hard to take. Good post by the way Harry.
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2015 0:59:11 GMT
Seems like Harry is making excuses. Rovers have been to Wembley 3 times and Millenium once. Not much different from Grimsby. Grimsby/Cleethorpes population is 160,000. Bristol is 420,000 - split between two teams (plus a well supported rugby team). Admittedly, Bristol is only 2-3 hours from Wembley wheareas Grimsby is 3-4 hours away but for a big game like this that shouldn't put people off. I also think Harry is underestimating how noisy Gasheads are when he refers to Grimsby fans being noisy buggers.Both fans will be noisy (I hope!) but if current ticket sale numbers are anything to go by we will have 3-4 times as many fans so it will be difficult to compete with that. Of course all of this means nothing when it comes to the result on Sunday - it is often the case that the club with the smaller support wins - you only have to look at Rovers attendances vs league 2 teams to realise that it is irrelevant how many more fans we have than other teams. We have no given right to be in the league - neither should we assume that we are nailed on to win on Sunday. But the football league is better off with teams like Rovers and Grimsby so I hope whoever loses the final gets promotion next year. We all know the reasons Grimsby will take less than us on Sunday. Its no shame. We don't constantly need reminding OP!! |
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Post by amgas on May 10, 2015 9:08:37 GMT
Agree with this.
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Post by vivalagas on May 10, 2015 10:29:51 GMT
yeah I didn't read much of that *yawn* Why not? Was a good post. Really not getting the hate? Good post Harry I enjoyed reading the other thread about Grimsby's history. I just didn't care for all the justification and excuses for their following at wembley. |
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Post by Topper Gas on May 10, 2015 10:39:35 GMT
Y Seems like Harry is making excuses. Rovers have been to Wembley 3 times and Millenium once. Not much different from Grimsby. Grimsby/Cleethorpes population is 160,000. Bristol is 420,000 - split between two teams (plus a well supported rugby team). Admittedly, Bristol is only 2-3 hours from Wembley wheareas Grimsby is 3-4 hours away but for a big game like this that shouldn't put people off. I also think Harry is underestimating how noisy Gasheads are when he refers to Grimsby fans being noisy buggers.Both fans will be noisy (I hope!) but if current ticket sale numbers are anything to go by we will have 3-4 times as many fans so it will be difficult to compete with that. Of course all of this means nothing when it comes to the result on Sunday - it is often the case that the club with the smaller support wins - you only have to look at Rovers attendances vs league 2 teams to realise that it is irrelevant how many more fans we have than other teams. We have no given right to be in the league - neither should we assume that we are nailed on to win on Sunday. But the football league is better off with teams like Rovers and Grimsby so I hope whoever loses the final gets promotion next year. I suppose you argue that the Conference gains even more! |
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Post by Warmley Gas (form Harbourside) on May 10, 2015 10:48:36 GMT
No need to make excuses for the support you're taking, it's great for this level and how hard it is for you and most people understand that. In terms of the "your costs are probably £20 on travel" a train from Bristol to London is £40 with a 16-25 card so probably not as cheap as you expect, but still not as dear as yours. Hope you finish top next season, and avoid the playoffs.This is what makes us look stupid and arrogant. I'm nervous for Sunday, it will be 50/50 one off match. They are a footballing side like us and have pace upfront. I wish i could say we have it in the bag but there is always that Rovers doubt in the back of my mind. God forsake we have to win. |
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Post by Deleted on May 10, 2015 10:57:06 GMT
No need to make excuses for the support you're taking, it's great for this level and how hard it is for you and most people understand that. In terms of the "your costs are probably £20 on travel" a train from Bristol to London is £40 with a 16-25 card so probably not as cheap as you expect, but still not as dear as yours. Hope you finish top next season, and avoid the playoffs.This is what makes us look stupid and arrogant. I'm nervous for Sunday, it will be 50/50 one off match. They are a footballing side like us and have pace upfront. I wish i could say we have it in the bag but there is always that Rovers doubt in the back of my mind. God forsake we have to win. You must be bundles of fun to be around. Both teams are saying the same thing about the other. |
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Post by Warmley Gas (form Harbourside) on May 10, 2015 10:59:51 GMT
This is what makes us look stupid and arrogant. I'm nervous for Sunday, it will be 50/50 one off match. They are a footballing side like us and have pace upfront. I wish i could say we have it in the bag but there is always that Rovers doubt in the back of my mind. God forsake we have to win. You must be bundles of fun to be around. Both teams are saying the same thing about the other. Just don't want to get ahead of myself, then look like a pratt if the worst happens! #justsaying |
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Post by winston on May 10, 2015 11:43:01 GMT
Good point grimsby are a very strong side going forward and at the back I think this could all end in tears for the mighty gas
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