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Post by Gas Go Marching In on May 18, 2015 12:00:36 GMT
Anywhere I can watch it again?
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Post by stapletongas on May 18, 2015 12:16:05 GMT
Was it a dogso? Not convinced
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Post by kylegas on May 18, 2015 12:19:31 GMT
Definite hand ball, not deliberate tho, just a bad call to run out but still very lucky not to be sent off
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Post by baggins on May 18, 2015 12:22:51 GMT
Definite hand ball, not deliberate tho, just a bad call to run out but still very lucky not to be sent off Yep, that was our bit of luck used up right there. |
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Post by kylegas on May 18, 2015 12:28:00 GMT
But also after watching what Taylor was booked for several times last night and this morning, I think it was a definite penalty and a red card for their keeper, he doesn't just clip him he full on palm grabs the ankle of Taylor's trailing leg! Where ours 'COULD' have been a red, theirs 'SHOULD' have been a red IMO
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on May 18, 2015 12:28:36 GMT
Definite hand ball, not deliberate tho, just a bad call to run out but still very lucky not to be sent off Was it definitely going on target? Was there definitely noone who was coming back to clear it? Want to see it again! |
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Post by kylegas on May 18, 2015 12:29:50 GMT
Definite hand ball, not deliberate tho, just a bad call to run out but still very lucky not to be sent off Was it definitely going on target? Was there definitely noone who was coming back to clear it? Want to see it again! Definitely not on target it looked like a cross to me and we had several men entering the box to defend it |
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Post by kylegas on May 18, 2015 12:32:22 GMT
But also after watching what Taylor was booked for several times last night and this morning, I think it was a definite penalty and a red card for their keeper, he doesn't just clip him he full on palm grabs the ankle of Taylor's trailing leg! Where ours 'COULD' have been a red, theirs 'SHOULD' have been a red IMO There was a big penalty shout not long before the Taylor booking which Taylor was again involved in where he robbed the defender on the touch line and ran toward goal from out wide, the man tackling from behind did in fact get the ball on that occasion |
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Post by baggins on May 18, 2015 12:32:38 GMT
Was it definitely going on target? Was there definitely noone who was coming back to clear it? Want to see it again! Definitely not on target it looked like a cross to me and we had several men entering the box to defend it Seen keepers sent off for less. |
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Post by Topper Gas on May 18, 2015 12:32:37 GMT
Highlights are on YouTube and I assume the hand ball's near the start? I thought at the match the lino waving was a bit harsh as how could Puddy move his hand away when the ball was blasted straight at him.
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Post by kylegas on May 18, 2015 12:33:55 GMT
Definitely not on target it looked like a cross to me and we had several men entering the box to defend it Seen keepers sent off for less. As have I, which is why I say he 'could' have gone for that, it was lucky, but their keeper 'should' have gone |
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Post by baggins on May 18, 2015 12:35:22 GMT
Seen keepers sent off for less. As have I, which is why I say he 'could' have gone for that, it was lucky, but their keeper 'should' have gone Balances out. But hey, we won, we're up!!!!!! |
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on May 18, 2015 12:38:14 GMT
Highlights are on YouTube and I assume the hand ball's near the start? I thought at the match the lino waving was a bit harsh as how could Puddy move his hand away when the ball was blasted straight at him. Link? Couldn't find it anywhere on youtube this morning. Found some highlights but none of the handball. |
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Post by kylegas on May 18, 2015 12:40:17 GMT
As have I, which is why I say he 'could' have gone for that, it was lucky, but their keeper 'should' have gone Balances out. But hey, we won, we're up!!!!!! That we are baggins, that we are!!  |
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Post by mehewmagic on May 18, 2015 12:43:05 GMT
Definite hand ball, not deliberate tho, just a bad call to run out but still very lucky not to be sent off why would it be lucky not to be sent off if it wasn't deliberate? If an outfield player had that happen to him would he be sent off? |
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Post by kylegas on May 18, 2015 13:11:17 GMT
Definite hand ball, not deliberate tho, just a bad call to run out but still very lucky not to be sent off why would it be lucky not to be sent off if it wasn't deliberate? If an outfield player had that happen to him would he be sent off? Lucky because the ref could have seen it different at the time, I've seen it replayed 50 times, the ref saw it once and many keepers have been sent off for less |
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Post by Fat Albert on May 18, 2015 13:13:53 GMT
It's funny how opinions vary I think Puddys was a definite red and I also think Taylor dived. He does have a habit of theatrical falling over in my opinion.
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Post by Jester on May 18, 2015 14:25:05 GMT
Here I go again in my 'Ex-Ref' alter ego!
The law is 'Hand-Ball' which means that the hand(arm!) must make a deliberate move to block/strike the ball and not Ball-Hand, as in the ball strikes the hand(arm!). There are many Conference/FL even Premiership referees and most of the TV pundits who do not understand this. Having seen the Puddy incident several times, I believe he just made an attempt to get his body in the way and the ball struck his hand/arm so it was BALLHAND, not HANDBALL! Even if it was handball, the referee then had to make his mind up if it was to deny an obvious goalscoring opportunity, or whether McChrystal would have also been able to prevent a goal and was the ball actually going into the goal? In my opinion (OK, I'm a Gashead and biased!) the ball wouldn't have gone into the goal and McChrystal would have probably cleared it, but from where the incident took place he would have found it very difficult to make a judgement, so when in doubt you always give the 'benefit of doubt' to the defender. which is what he did. However, if the ball did hit Puddy's hand/arm then the person at fault was the Assistant, who was the first to flag and there should not even have been a free kick.
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Post by Deleted on May 18, 2015 14:33:50 GMT
Here I go again in my 'Ex-Ref' alter ego! The law is 'Hand-Ball' which means that the hand(arm!) must make a deliberate move to block/strike the ball and not Ball-Hand, as in the ball strikes the hand(arm!). There are many Conference/FL even Premiership referees and most of the TV pundits who do not understand this. Having seen the Puddy incident several times, I believe he just made an attempt to get his body in the way and the ball struck his hand/arm so it was BALLHAND, not HANDBALL! Even if it was handball, the referee then had to make his mind up if it was to deny an obvious goalscoring opportunity, or whether McChrystal would have also been able to prevent a goal and was the ball actually going into the goal? In my opinion (OK, I'm a Gashead and biased!) the ball wouldn't have gone into the goal and McChrystal would have probably cleared it, but from where the incident took place he would have found it very difficult to make a judgement, so when in doubt you always give the 'benefit of doubt' to the defender. which is what he did. However, if the ball did hit Puddy's hand/arm then the person at fault was the Assistant, who was the first to flag and there should not even have been a free kick. The ref has spoken lads. |
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Post by Dirt Dogg on May 18, 2015 14:37:38 GMT
Wouldn't care if he caught it, ran down the pitch and smashed it into the Grimsby net!
We won, that's all that mattered!!
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