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Post by stuart1974 on May 19, 2015 12:31:33 GMT
What can I say? I have a son with a life limiting condition and if I have half of your strength when the time comes I may well cope. I have read your posts over the past months and they usually bring on my allergies - at least that is what I tell my wife anyway!
Thanks for sharing this.
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Post by inee on May 19, 2015 12:32:55 GMT
Like you Inee, 10 years ago i hit rock bottom, when the two people most dear to me passed within 1 month of each other, my mum & daughter. i could not cope and succumbed to a very depressive state which involved self harm & suicide attempts i knew i had a problem when one night i was found sat in my car on a dark country road with a large dose of insulin in a pen applicator stuck in my stomach Mum & my daughter must have been watching over me that night because at that point a policeman came along and took control of the situation. to this day i cannot remember how i got there. 5 years of treatment with the fantastic group of mental health team at southmead hospital now means i can lead a relative normal life, but you never forget and i still remember those dark days Mate we have crossed paths in my computer shop and like others i'm here for you yup i remember you mentioning something, i know where your coming from, in the last six years the only time ive had a good nights sleep was on sunday and that was 4 or 6 hours(ish). like you say the worst bits are when you dont realise what you have done or how you got there, there have been time where ive been stood in the kitchen starting to cut my wrists and had no idea i was doing it, again i was given some sleeping pills and diazepam used em as sweets, but im very lucky as wendy knows when im up to no good and seems to appear out of thin air, Wendy was fully aware of my mental health when i met her. We have been trying to teach the bloody thing to say asshat and stinky fish, as Ann-Marie tried but the bloody thing never got it ,although when he turns his back to you he says night night, bloody things turnt into me muh
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Post by roverstillidie on May 19, 2015 12:34:52 GMT
Thanks for this post Inee this post has opened my eyes and I'm sure it has for many other readers too. A lot of people don't realise how rich they truly are (Myself included), not money rich but most of us do have a clean bill of health and have a healthy family and it isn't until you read a post like this that you start to think wow! I am a lucky sod! I have never met you but I do wish you the very best and I hope things start to go your way!! UTG!! I think this Post says it all really....
Best Wishes.
UTG
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Post by inee on May 19, 2015 13:48:36 GMT
What can I say? I have a son with a life limiting condition and if I have half of your strength when the time comes I may well cope. I have read your posts over the past months and they usually bring on my allergies - at least that is what I tell my wife anyway! Thanks for sharing this. I types a massive reply and my stupid uncontrollable fingers destroyed it grr, so i'll type up a smaller one. Believe me strength doesn't come into it(well it might just a little) , difficult post this one to answer Ann-Marie Irene had various medical conditions, muscular dystrophy, she had a pigeon chest, her back worked in reverse to ours in that she couldn't bend forwards much but could bend backwards till her hair touched the floor, and she had epilepsy, and mental issues as well(sorry but i hate these modern words like special needs etc). I only had the privileged of knowing her for 5 years. But in those 5 years she had gone from Wendy's kid to daughter, thing is we were so close anyone who didn't know her swore we were blood related, we never became close because of her illnesses as i never thought of her as anything other than normal, never wrapped her in cotton wool , never shied away, there came a time when we had to bath her as she had a fit in the bath and din't tell us, it came out by accident, such was her independence. We knew her time would be short but didn't know how short( we had arranged that if anything happened to Wendy, she would live with me ,if anything happened to me she would live with my friend and his wife). it dint pan out like that nothing can prepare you for it. you think you are prepared but it hits you so so hard. I've explained where i was mentally so if it does happen get straight to the vets for yours and your wife's sake. You also have to bear in mind i was f**k ed mentally before, You ask about strength you already have it my friend, We had help from you guys, but the one thing that was at the top of my mind was the fact that no matter how i or anyone else felt , I could never begin to imagine how Wendy felt, tbh it's something i never want to know, but through all the hell you will find the strength to help your wife etc, don't ever push her away, don't ever not be truthful about how you feel , i maybe unbelievably lucky in that me and Wendy have had tough lives so are open and honest. Even when your backs are against the wall whilst caring fer yer lad emotionally and your jangling on each others nerves, don't blame each other or argue, if the mrs is narky and wants space walk away for an hour or so, The thing that got to me when caring for he was people saying i don't know how you cope with a disabled child, my normal response was Fu ck off as tbh we dont cope we just do ,sorry for the long post fella ,just keep going, if you need to eff n blind or call someone a lady garden you can have my number and call anytime
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Post by grayraydon on May 19, 2015 13:57:47 GMT
Can't really add anything more than anyone else has said, but really glad that things are looking up a bit for you and Wendy inee, such a strong op had me blubbing in work.
The kindness and generosity of some people on here like the FFSC and others is amazing and just goes to show that we are all one big family when it comes down to it and really makes you proud to be a gashead.
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Post by inee on May 19, 2015 14:02:12 GMT
Thanks for this post Inee this post has opened my eyes and I'm sure it has for many other readers too. A lot of people don't realise how rich they truly are (Myself included), not money rich but most of us do have a clean bill of health and have a healthy family and it isn't until you read a post like this that you start to think wow! I am a lucky sod! I have never met you but I do wish you the very best and I hope things start to go your way!! UTG!! I think this Post says it all really....
Best Wishes.
UTG
This pc is getting on me nips now grrr keeps losing replies Agree never been well of even when working lived hand to mouth, mortgage etc, just a normal life really, then the brain decided to play up long story short lost everything, strangely enough though the thing most of us are frightened of losing , didn't really mater, im trying to say it doesn't matter who or what you are there are things more important than possessions but we as humans don't realise that it doesn't matter till its taken away. The other side of the coin is although i only had 5 years with Ann-Marie Irene and everyday hurts like f**k i was so lucky to have had the opportunity to be her dad. Tbh i really am grateful to have met Wendy known Ann-Marie Irene and had the help of the forum and the club
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Post by inee on May 19, 2015 14:16:33 GMT
Mental health illnesses are horrible, almost unbearable. Also something that is very hard to understand until you have been through it. There are some very good people out there who can help so I would urge anyone suffering in silence to speak up. Help is there if you ask for it. And thoughts are with you inee, stay strong mate. Agree fully the other issue is as people we all think we know what it's like ,i know i did, but until it takes hold fully we have no idea of the living hell it causes ,and everyone suffers in different ways, and has different coping structures mine has evolved into cutting myself , it works for me as it stops me going out and doing something stupid. The worst part for me is fully understanding whats going wrong in my brain, but at the same time being unable to do anything about it, the real wake up call for me has been the inability to do stuff i used to do with my hands as if i start to try and concentrate i start shaking, absolute pain in the arse more so if im tattooing myself and the shakes come on, why do i tattoo myself it's another way of coping but also it documents where i am in life, i dont care if people dislike it ,it's a reminder to myself when im able to be well again ,that at anytime something can go wrong. One thing that does make me laugh(very dark sense of humour) as well as send me to a very dark place is a letter that says im unsafe to be around strangers. it's hard to explain but i can literally explode at any moment, so avoid those situations as best i can, this also makes me unemployable, something that in time i will have to accept but cant at the mo so it's filled away to deal with later. I'm also glad that others who suffer are posting as it hopefully spreads the message that it's more common than we think.
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Post by inee on May 19, 2015 14:31:18 GMT
Could be worse Inee, you could be a City fan I have to say I bloody love your humour, always gives me a smile. Looks like things are on the up and it's heartwarming to see the support from the Gas family you've received in such adversity. Right thats it you B'start you had to mention the c word, i was going to spank the monkey but now im going to abuse the parrot, ah feels better now just called the parrot a twat One thing i learned when i was a kid was you need a sense of humour, mine is very dark, , and im glad i have the ability to take the pish out of myself forgot to add that even in my darkest hours the vet and trick cyclists said that no way in hell would that make me a ted, and that even in the depths of depression it's not and excuse
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Post by stuart1974 on May 20, 2015 8:29:15 GMT
Thanks inee, I will bear that in mind. When going through Hell, keep going.
My son has a similar condition to Ivan Cameron (the PM's late son). I always thought it strange that a doctor gets 7 years or more to specialise while a parent has to be as clued up overnight.
Whilst I am not religious myself, my late mum told me from a young age that parents of disabled children are chosen for a reason. It is almost like she was preparing me and it does help a bit.
Best wishes to you all.
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Post by beaver132 on May 21, 2015 21:15:10 GMT
Brilliant set of posts. We all have dark days, and we all need help. My wife suffered severed post natal depression and had to give up working as a nurse, our son has autism and goes to a/special school, because he's a special kid! We have very little cash left if any at the end if the month and I work in a decent job, but very stressful. People in wirkwonder his I carry on, and I tel! Them I have no choice. Guess I'm blessed that stress washes over me, but knoiw that one day it won't. That day came recently when the boy, ten tears old tried to throw himself out if the bedroom window. Head in hands I wondered how I get through this, he was sedated and in hospital, but we've slowly come through it. God willing we will still. Can only agree, if you think you need help, get it before it gets you. Good luck out there.
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on May 21, 2015 21:25:46 GMT
I suffer from depression. At times in my life it has been unbearable but in recent years I have managed to get it more or less under control. It sometimes rears its head though. I had a bad couple of months recently where just getting up and going to work and doing my preparation for work felt like the hardest thing imaginable. Every contact with another human being outside of very close family felt impossible and I lost all of my confidence. Because of experience of dealing with it over a long period of time, I managed to fight through it and now things are on an even keel again but believe me, I know what it's like to be facing rock bottom. Inee, I have massive admiration for you with what you've been through and the strength you've shown. It's great to see you posting so regularly and I hope that things will get more manageable over time, though I know they will never be the same.
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Post by inee on May 21, 2015 21:44:37 GMT
Can i just say a massive thanks to everyone who has replied on this thread, im especially glad some have chosen to share their experiences with their mental health, shows how common and hidden it is, to anyone suffering depression, or are caring for someone who is disabled in any way, feel free to pm me and eff n blind all you like in pm or by phone , remember our gas family are there for everyone.
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Post by newmarketgas on May 24, 2015 10:36:54 GMT
unbelievable posts and so much real guts shown by so many people, this club might not be very good at football ( getting better I think ) or very good at running itself but my god we have some fantastic people in the brilliant GAS FAMILY !
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Post by LJG on May 27, 2015 10:05:05 GMT
As someone whose family life has been gripped and dogged by mental health issues I can only hope that the world reads this thread - it would make a lot of difference to a lot of people for a lot of reasons.
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Post by baggins on May 27, 2015 10:12:45 GMT
I think alot of people who have never witnessed friends and family suffering from this illness (is it ok to call it an illness?), including myself, have no idea how it can tear lives apart. My eyes have been opened that's for sure.
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Post by inee on May 27, 2015 10:30:19 GMT
bags you can call it what you want, yes it is an illness, the main thing with peoples understanding is because for most sufferers it's an invisable illness to others it isn't real. hope you can understand what i mean, I take comfort because people are sharing and if that helps just one person either a sufferer or it someone understand then im happy, thanks all for sharing. If you feel down or are low for any other reason remember you dont have to suffer alone, most vets(docs) now understand and offer different forms of hel
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Post by baggins on May 27, 2015 10:54:04 GMT
bags you can call it what you want, yes it is an illness, the main thing with peoples understanding is because for most sufferers it's an invisable illness to others it isn't real. hope you can understand what i mean, I take comfort because people are sharing and if that helps just one person either a sufferer or it someone understand then im happy, thanks all for sharing. If you feel down or are low for any other reason remember you dont have to suffer alone, most vets(docs) now understand and offer different forms of hel It's not until you hear of it that you start to understand. I'm ashamed to say I'm guilty of thinking well, why can't they just pull themselves together and get over it? It's all on the head. However, hearing stories such as yours and others who have come forward that I realise it's something that people like me need to be aware of, very much so. You're a brave guy. And, Gas!
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Post by stuart1974 on May 27, 2015 11:36:31 GMT
My wife has been suffering for many years now, thankfully she is getting better and is now off the pills but still has the odd panic attack. It is irrational by its nature and can be difficult to understand.
The biggest problem I feel is that I was the only one she would talk too and confide in. She wouldn't and still won't tell the rest of her family or other friends and her GP is the only other one aware. I am sure it would have helped her recover sooner.
If you or someone you know has 'issues', please talk it through with someone, I found taxi drivers can be very helpful and non judgemental and a really close friend helped me keep it together.
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Post by Deleted on May 27, 2015 15:17:55 GMT
Only just read this and well... wow. You are obviously stronger than you give yourself credit for. My Dad has been on and off with throat cancer in recent years and was not well enough to make the play off final. The release of emotion when Manse hit the back of the net and the mixture of powerful thoughts, memories and emotions swirling around my head was unreal. Bawled my eyes out and embraced a total random behind me, may have even been one of you lot. Football can be a great tool when used in the right way, it captures reward, memories of childhood and that feeling of togetherness perfectly. Good luck with your ongoing struggles my friend and may you conquer them all. Goodnight Irene.
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Post by Deleted on May 28, 2015 9:54:04 GMT
I thought the same, 'why can't they just pull themselves together!' until I had to deal with it personally. I then became very aware very quickly that it is 100% real and most certainly not something you can simply 'snap out of'. Without a doubt the hardest thing I have ever gone through. Thankfully I am now pulling out of the other side.
I think it was Ricky Gervais who recently said amidst all of the debate over the German plane crash "Telling someone with depression to 'snap out of it' is like telling someone with cancer to 'stop having cancer' it's that helpful". He is spot on with that.
A mixture of a very good local GP and a very good private therapist (CBT) was the key for me. More to the point though, simply talking about it with people who care helps an awful lot.
My family were also wonderful and my girlfriend in particular probably saved my life. Certainly made me realise how important she is was/is to me.
Also turned out after a few more family became aware of the problems I was dealing with that my family tree was littered with mental health problems. I had no idea. This is part of the problem in my opinion, if my family had a history of cancer or heart disease I would know, it would have been discussed at some point, but mental health is still almost seen as an embarrassment in this country, almost a big dark secret and therefore it had never been discussed or even alluded to.
Thankfully it is a mindset I think is starting to change in this country.
Most importantly people need to talk, it really is half the battle.
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