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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2015 10:51:18 GMT
Again this spin of 'well if a player turns us down, its because we can't afford him' rears its head. Unlike previous managers, evidently we offered JMW a wage we felt he warranted, and he wanted more from the club. Unlike previous managers, who would then stump up, DC said 'thank you and goodbye'. That's the way to do it. Even without the kids we have a squad of 18. People said the same stuff last summer, we added to the squad through short term loans. By the end of the season we used 28 players. Darrell offered him a deal meaning he wanted him. JMW decided it wasn't enough. If DC had access to more money he would have offered him more? I am assuming of course and the fact is that we don't know! Some will say it's a sensible manager, however we obviously haven't got an endless supply of cash..... He wanted him for a price! I think if the well was dry we wouldn't have signed Lines. We saw it with a few last season and a few this season (even Monkhouse going by DC's interviews wanted more money than he could justify) that whilst they were wanted by BRFC, there were always other options if they tried to exploit us by demanding high wages. I'd like to think that DC's comments about wingers and their agents wanting £1.5k a week was more a case of 'I won't pay that' rather than 'I can't pay that'.
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Post by mehewmagic on Jul 17, 2015 11:38:18 GMT
Walked in about 5 mins late with my missus. Which one of the 2 of you were you? The one without the beard?
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Post by mehewmagic on Jul 17, 2015 11:46:29 GMT
well it's certainly not research or first hand experiences. To be fair you are right I wasn't there and you gave a great explanation of what happened Mehew. Don't quite see why you then have to have a sly dig. I haven't written this on a blog for general consumption and said it is fact, it is a comment relating to the topic raised on the forum. A lot of us couldn't make it last night. A lot of us couldn't make it to Salisbury. We can only read what has been written. Technical issues get found out more the higher up the ladder you go, but now you have explained he is learning all the time that is fine. Stop the sly digs though. No need for them. I am sure I could have a dig at some things you've said if I looked hard enough is a fact a sly dig? You always comment on things when you weren't there. I have NO problem that you can't get to many games or events like this but why can't you show a little humility that you weren't there? I won't be able to go to many games this season so I'll be ultra-careful how I present things this season. If you aren't there maybe you could throttle your comments back a bit? Why assume that what he said about Bliss was wrong? As a trained, qualified, professional journalist surely you of all people know that there are times in life where you ARE there, at a press conference, a game, or even a personal interview with someone, and in those cases you can write with confidence. BUT the times when you are not there and are dealing with 2nd hand info you are far more careful about making assumptions, and would 'ask the question' rather than give opinions based on no first hand evidence or research. E.g. 'Can anyone who was there explain what he said about Blissett?'. DC is the best thing that happened to us for years. Did you like Gerry? if so, we've got Gerry Mk2 on our hands. Celebrate it. Embrace it. Come on a lovely ride with us.
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Post by mehewmagic on Jul 17, 2015 12:00:08 GMT
6 hours after game use technology to find all he needs to know about future opposition.
Anyone know what this means? JW had a full-time scout. His role was cut when we got relegated. Not replaced. An 'analyst' was also let go. SO... we don't now have a traditional scouting network, and DC thinks it's not a good use of money to have a FT scout. What we do have though is an 'analyst' who comes in watch a recording of matches to flag up things. DC and him then sit down and analyse it. He works only on expenses. We have subscribed to a tech package called something like 'Scouting for men' [ok, i made that up, I think it was 'My Scout'?]. It costs £15O a month and within 6 hours of any game taking place it will offer you all sorts of stats on the game and a recording of the full game. It is often used to analyse the last game our next opponents played. DC also says he use his contacts and knowledge from his playing days / coaching courses etc. If a player is recommended to them, marcus or other staff will go and watch them. Wants to utilise his backroom staff rather than have a FT Chief Scout. He specifically mentioned a fan who came to the Trg ground last season and gave him a 4 page list of non-lge prospects. Sounds like the lad who used to be on here?? He says he is open to all opinions and leads.
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Post by LJG on Jul 17, 2015 13:26:19 GMT
To be fair you are right I wasn't there and you gave a great explanation of what happened Mehew. Don't quite see why you then have to have a sly dig. I haven't written this on a blog for general consumption and said it is fact, it is a comment relating to the topic raised on the forum. A lot of us couldn't make it last night. A lot of us couldn't make it to Salisbury. We can only read what has been written. Technical issues get found out more the higher up the ladder you go, but now you have explained he is learning all the time that is fine. Stop the sly digs though. No need for them. I am sure I could have a dig at some things you've said if I looked hard enough is a fact a sly dig? You always comment on things when you weren't there. I have NO problem that you can't get to many games or events like this but why can't you show a little humility that you weren't there? I won't be able to go to many games this season so I'll be ultra-careful how I present things this season. If you aren't there maybe you could throttle your comments back a bit? Why assume that what he said about Bliss was wrong? As a trained, qualified, professional journalist surely you of all people know that there are times in life where you ARE there, at a press conference, a game, or even a personal interview with someone, and in those cases you can write with confidence. BUT the times when you are not there and are dealing with 2nd hand info you are far more careful about making assumptions, and would 'ask the question' rather than give opinions based on no first hand evidence or research. E.g. 'Can anyone who was there explain what he said about Blissett?'. DC is the best thing that happened to us for years. Did you like Gerry? if so, we've got Gerry Mk2 on our hands. Celebrate it. Embrace it. Come on a lovely ride with us. I love it when journalists pretend there's any skill to what they do or even any such thing as real journalism nowadays rather then rehashing of press releases and compilation of "listicles". Also what was wrong what he said? All seemed like perfectly reasonable fan conjecture on a forum same as everyone else's comments.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jul 17, 2015 16:22:06 GMT
Which one of the 2 of you were you? The one without the beard? ?
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Post by aghast on Jul 17, 2015 17:30:01 GMT
To be fair you are right I wasn't there and you gave a great explanation of what happened Mehew. Don't quite see why you then have to have a sly dig. I haven't written this on a blog for general consumption and said it is fact, it is a comment relating to the topic raised on the forum. A lot of us couldn't make it last night. A lot of us couldn't make it to Salisbury. We can only read what has been written. Technical issues get found out more the higher up the ladder you go, but now you have explained he is learning all the time that is fine. Stop the sly digs though. No need for them. I am sure I could have a dig at some things you've said if I looked hard enough is a fact a sly dig? You always comment on things when you weren't there. I have NO problem that you can't get to many games or events like this but why can't you show a little humility that you weren't there? I won't be able to go to many games this season so I'll be ultra-careful how I present things this season. If you aren't there maybe you could throttle your comments back a bit? Why assume that what he said about Bliss was wrong? As a trained, qualified, professional journalist surely you of all people know that there are times in life where you ARE there, at a press conference, a game, or even a personal interview with someone, and in those cases you can write with confidence. BUT the times when you are not there and are dealing with 2nd hand info you are far more careful about making assumptions, and would 'ask the question' rather than give opinions based on no first hand evidence or research. E.g. 'Can anyone who was there explain what he said about Blissett?'. DC is the best thing that happened to us for years. Did you like Gerry? if so, we've got Gerry Mk2 on our hands. Celebrate it. Embrace it. Come on a lovely ride with us. Sorry MM but it looks to me that you've created a little argument out of nothing. It was reported in this thread that DC said Blissett was technically poor. Buckrippers responded to that like any poster on here might do. Not as a journo in a blog or quoting the comment on twitter, but as an ordinary response as an ordinary member. That response wasn't full of caveats like "not withstanding the fact that the comments to which I reply may not have been verbatim quotes or a full and fair summation of the topic, nevertheless I wish to offer an opinion based on the information presented to me." And thank god too, or it would have been unreadable, and if buckrippers is expected to do it, then you and I and everyone else should too.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2015 20:45:34 GMT
is a fact a sly dig? You always comment on things when you weren't there. I have NO problem that you can't get to many games or events like this but why can't you show a little humility that you weren't there? I won't be able to go to many games this season so I'll be ultra-careful how I present things this season. If you aren't there maybe you could throttle your comments back a bit? Why assume that what he said about Bliss was wrong? As a trained, qualified, professional journalist surely you of all people know that there are times in life where you ARE there, at a press conference, a game, or even a personal interview with someone, and in those cases you can write with confidence. BUT the times when you are not there and are dealing with 2nd hand info you are far more careful about making assumptions, and would 'ask the question' rather than give opinions based on no first hand evidence or research. E.g. 'Can anyone who was there explain what he said about Blissett?'. DC is the best thing that happened to us for years. Did you like Gerry? if so, we've got Gerry Mk2 on our hands. Celebrate it. Embrace it. Come on a lovely ride with us. Sorry MM but it looks to me that you've created a little argument out of nothing. It was reported in this thread that DC said Blissett was technically poor. Buckrippers responded to that like any poster on here might do. Not as a journo in a blog or quoting the comment on twitter, but as an ordinary response as an ordinary member. That response wasn't full of caveats like "not withstanding the fact that the comments to which I reply may not have been verbatim quotes or a full and fair summation of the topic, nevertheless I wish to offer an opinion based on the information presented to me." And thank god too, or it would have been unreadable, and if buckrippers is expected to do it, then you and I and everyone else should too. You weren't there when MM wrote that so you can't knock him. Also, you can't call me a w**ker.... ...can you? :S
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2015 21:10:01 GMT
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Post by buckrippers on Jul 17, 2015 23:09:35 GMT
To be fair you are right I wasn't there and you gave a great explanation of what happened Mehew. Don't quite see why you then have to have a sly dig. I haven't written this on a blog for general consumption and said it is fact, it is a comment relating to the topic raised on the forum. A lot of us couldn't make it last night. A lot of us couldn't make it to Salisbury. We can only read what has been written. Technical issues get found out more the higher up the ladder you go, but now you have explained he is learning all the time that is fine. Stop the sly digs though. No need for them. I am sure I could have a dig at some things you've said if I looked hard enough is a fact a sly dig? You always comment on things when you weren't there. I have NO problem that you can't get to many games or events like this but why can't you show a little humility that you weren't there? I won't be able to go to many games this season so I'll be ultra-careful how I present things this season. If you aren't there maybe you could throttle your comments back a bit? Why assume that what he said about Bliss was wrong? As a trained, qualified, professional journalist surely you of all people know that there are times in life where you ARE there, at a press conference, a game, or even a personal interview with someone, and in those cases you can write with confidence. BUT the times when you are not there and are dealing with 2nd hand info you are far more careful about making assumptions, and would 'ask the question' rather than give opinions based on no first hand evidence or research. E.g. 'Can anyone who was there explain what he said about Blissett?'. DC is the best thing that happened to us for years. Did you like Gerry? if so, we've got Gerry Mk2 on our hands. Celebrate it. Embrace it. Come on a lovely ride with us. Bloody hell, mate, you're starting to sound like Graham Taylor! Do I not like that!!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 17, 2015 23:28:21 GMT
lol @ a journo getting upset about people giving him 'sly digs'!
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Post by gasrovers on Jul 18, 2015 15:50:14 GMT
Dawson played for Kidderminster today, apparently scored a great goal playing on the left wing taking on 2 established championship players and slotting it in. He also got man of the match against a championship side. Gary Rowett in his interview praises him highly. League expirience I can understand but quality shines past that in my eyes. If your good enough your good enough!!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2015 16:02:55 GMT
Dawson played for Kidderminster today, apparently scored a great goal playing on the left wing taking on 2 established championship players and slotting it in. He also got man of the match against a championship side. Gary Rowett in his interview praises him highly. League expirience I can understand but quality shines past that in my eyes. If your good enough your good enough!! im not certain dc was right to not try and sign him but if hes got so much quality why have none of the 92 league clubs offered him a deal?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 18, 2015 21:44:52 GMT
im not certain dc was right to not try and sign him but if hes got so much quality why have none of the 92 league clubs offered him a deal? Same reason Darrell didn't. No league Games. And coming from a Premier League U21 side it's probably quite hard to find a manager in the league to take a gamble like that especially with wages. Because he's not exactly on 200 quid a week is he. hes out of work??? also kidderminster are known to have severe financial problems,,we could afford him im sure,,, i hope he does well though
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 19, 2015 7:25:14 GMT
Dawson played for Kidderminster today, apparently scored a great goal playing on the left wing taking on 2 established championship players and slotting it in. He also got man of the match against a championship side. Gary Rowett in his interview praises him highly. League expirience I can understand but quality shines past that in my eyes. If your good enough your good enough!! im not certain dc was right to not try and sign him but if hes got so much quality why have none of the 92 league clubs offered him a deal? You could say the same for any non league player? Surely Stuart Sinclair shows that view is wrong? Personally I'd have taken a chance on AD, it will be interesting to see if Montano or Bodin, even Gosling, prove to be better options.
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