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Post by CornishPasty_Gas on Jul 9, 2014 16:21:51 GMT
Im not one for doom and gloom, and slating members of the squad, management or board... but however, I am really concerned with the squad we have at the moment.
Ok, we have signed 5 players... I can't really comment too much about them apart from Mansell who is a decent signing... However, the rest of the squad is same bunch who got us relegated last season... everyone seems to think that we'll be pushing up the table, but the Conference is not much different to League 2.
Especially with the likelihood of Smith moving on, and probably some interest in Parkes, Brown etc...
DC said he wanted his squad in place before PS, but he quite clearly hasn't, and some of the name on the trial list make me shudder!
I dont want to be worried, or sounding like im whinging, but I really am!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2014 16:29:03 GMT
Im not one for doom and gloom, and slating members of the squad, management or board... but however, I am really concerned with the squad we have at the moment. Ok, we have signed 5 players... I can't really comment too much about them apart from Mansell who is a decent signing... However, the rest of the squad is same bunch who got us relegated last season... everyone seems to think that we'll be pushing up the table, but the Conference is not much different to League 2. Especially with the likelihood of Smith moving on, and probably some interest in Parkes, Brown etc... DC said he wanted his squad in place before PS, but he quite clearly hasn't, and some of the name on the trial list make me shudder! I dont want to be worried, or sounding like im whinging, but I really am! I share your concerns. I think that we are in for a real shock. Unless we see some experienced and proven players come in soon then I really worry about our ability to compete even at this level |
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Post by smudge1 on Jul 9, 2014 16:49:12 GMT
Have faith - It did not work for Luton and other clubs when they signed league 2 players on the way down, we have to change players perception of Rovers as being a club that pays big wages and gives long contracts. I for one would be happy with a 'team' and not a bunch of individuals 'O'Toole', I do not give a monkeys about 'names' I want a team that plays good football, is young and hungry, and proud to wear the shirt . At least Clarke is trying to do the right thing, lets judge were we are after some Conference games have been played. We need to try to keep some of the players, remember our defensive record was not too bad, it was the fact we could not score goals that cost us our league place.
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Post by GasAttacK on Jul 9, 2014 17:07:36 GMT
I'm not concerned by the 5 players we've signed. I think 3 or 4 are likely to be first team regulars amd there are reasons to be believe they can all be assets.
I'm not concerned by the players that have left. Fabian Broghammer, David Clarkson, Seanan Clucas, Steven Gillespie, Jordan Goddard, Conor Gough, Mitch Harding, Pat Keary, Jim Paterson, Eliot Richards, Josh Southway, Danny Woodards, Alan Gow, Alefe Santos and loanees Chris Beardsley and Kaid Mohamed. With the possible exception of Richards I wouldn't have offered any of those a new contract.
I'm not concerned by the transfer listing of Harrison. He was never good enough and it was madness to give him a 3 year deal in the first place.
I'm not concerned by the players that have stayed. I'm sure Mildenhall, Smith, Parkes, McChrystal, Brown, Clarke, Lockyer & Brunt can all do a decent job at Conference level.
However if you include Harrison we have lost 17 players from last seasons first team squad and replaced them with 5. That does concern me because DC had said he'd like his squad in place before pre season but clearly that hasn't happened.
Okay we've promotoed a few kids from the youth side but realistically we are at least 5 first team players short and certain areas of the team still look very weak. I think we still need a GK, Centre Back, 2 Wingers & a Striker. If I was greedy I'd say another central midfielder too.
I'm hoping DC can update us on his progress soon.
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Post by stigofthegas on Jul 9, 2014 17:11:04 GMT
Have faith - It did not work for Luton and other clubs when they signed league 2 players on the way down, we have to change players perception of Rovers as being a club that pays big wages and gives long contracts. I for one would be happy with a 'team' and not a bunch of individuals 'O'Toole', I do not give a monkeys about 'names' I want a team that plays good football, is young and hungry, and proud to wear the shirt . At least Clarke is trying to do the right thing, lets judge were we are after some Conference games have been played. We need to try to keep some of the players, remember our defensive record was not too bad, it was the fact we could not score goals that cost us our league place. This just about sums up where I am now. The last thing I think we need is to bring in experienced heads who, in DC's own words, "have no hunger in their bellies". Last season the defence was good enough, he has kept it. The attacking part of the team wasn't, he has replaced it. I don't think we are finished yet and the squad is a bit thin. I have concerns but I am not worried. |
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Post by Rovers 12th Man on Jul 9, 2014 17:11:33 GMT
Defintley still need more players but I am not worried.
We were okay in defence last year and so far we have kept the same back 5 but the thing that really let us down was a lack of pace and clinical strikers. We have added both of these now although more is clearly needed.
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Post by stigofthegas on Jul 9, 2014 17:12:52 GMT
Oops - sorry !!!
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Post by fanboy on Jul 9, 2014 17:15:08 GMT
I too am eager for signings to be made but remember, the more patience we have arguably the cheaper we can get players. You could argue we miss out on the best but if Clarke is comfortable waiting for whoever these players are then that's fine by me, i trust him. At least this year we aren't waiting all summer for ONE player.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2014 17:28:34 GMT
I too am eager for signings to be made but remember, the more patience we have arguably the cheaper we can get players. You could argue we miss out on the best but if Clarke is comfortable waiting for whoever these players are then that's fine by me, i turust him. At least this year we aren't waiting all summer for ONE player. No, we're waiting all summer for 5 players.  |
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Post by newmarketgas on Jul 9, 2014 17:35:18 GMT
I thought he was doing pretty much what he said he would do........sign a few and then give 10 fresh faces a chance with the friendly games on trial ? if we take on 4 or 5 that way, I would be happy. Interesting to see the list of players that have gone, not very good when you look at it.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2014 18:22:50 GMT
I thought he said that he wanted the squad in place ready for pre season?
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Post by stevek192 on Jul 9, 2014 18:34:01 GMT
I am partially worried in that I do not feel we have enough physical strength or creativity in the squad. I think we need at least 6 players still and the trialists do not excite me to provide what we need. The level of the trialists IMO are going to be squad players only if we sign any of them and therfore I hope that DC can put into action his fine words and bring in these signings. I am not at present convinced that he has the contacts to do this.
1. Reserve GK
2. CB Strong Physical and a leader
3. Creative Central Midfielder- Experienced
4. Winger
5. Winger
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2014 18:36:08 GMT
I thought he said that he wanted the squad in place ready for pre season? Indeed he did. |
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Post by Gas4life!!! on Jul 9, 2014 18:38:50 GMT
He did
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Jul 9, 2014 20:41:08 GMT
I am partially worried in that I do not feel we have enough physical strength or creativity in the squad. I think we need at least 6 players still and the trialists do not excite me to provide what we need. The level of the trialists IMO are going to be squad players only if we sign any of them and therfore I hope that DC can put into action his fine words and bring in these signings. I am not at present convinced that he has the contacts to do this. 1. Reserve GK 2. CB Strong Physical and a leader 3. Creative Central Midfielder- Experienced 4. Winger 5. Winger 6. Striker Now I know it's pre season!  Welcome aboard SteveK. |
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Jul 9, 2014 20:42:10 GMT
I am partially worried in that I do not feel we have enough physical strength or creativity in the squad. I think we need at least 6 players still and the trialists do not excite me to provide what we need. The level of the trialists IMO are going to be squad players only if we sign any of them and therfore I hope that DC can put into action his fine words and bring in these signings. I am not at present convinced that he has the contacts to do this. 1. Reserve GK 2. CB Strong Physical and a leader 3. Creative Central Midfielder- Experienced 4. Winger 5. Winger 6. Striker Did you go to last night's game? If so, was the keeper good enough as backup? |
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Post by seanclevedongas on Jul 9, 2014 20:53:49 GMT
He did initially but his thoughts and circumstances have changed. It's no big deal......
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Post by fanboy on Jul 9, 2014 21:02:00 GMT
I am partially worried in that I do not feel we have enough physical strength or creativity in the squad. I think we need at least 6 players still and the trialists do not excite me to provide what we need. The level of the trialists IMO are going to be squad players only if we sign any of them and therfore I hope that DC can put into action his fine words and bring in these signings. I am not at present convinced that he has the contacts to do this. 1. Reserve GK 2. CB Strong Physical and a leader 3. Creative Central Midfielder- Experienced 4. Winger 5. Winger 6. Striker Did you go to last night's game? If so, was the keeper good enough as backup? He was definitely good enough. I'd say it's a dead cert he will be signed. Since that game was the chance to impress, and he played 70 minutes, conceded 0 and made a number of good saves, I see no reason he wouldn't be signed. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2014 22:25:12 GMT
He did initially but his thoughts and circumstances have changed. It's no big deal...... All due respect but you felt we had no need for concern last season Sean. I know you are Blue to the core mate but I believe we need a squad to be training together as early as possible or we will get the " they need time to gel" rubbish..... Again |
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Post by stevek192 on Jul 9, 2014 23:36:42 GMT
The silence on players coming in really makes me worried that DC will need to sign his 4 or 5 players from these trialists or loans. IMO loans should be for emergencies AFTER the season has started and NOT to be part of your starting squad. At the moment I would say that the squad is heading towards a mid table place and that is NOT good enough. one things for sure is that the signings so far have used up very little of our budget unless the budget is very small. If the Board are serious about getting back in the League quickly then they need to fund the signings necessary to put right all the mistakes made that find us in this position. What were the words "We will not allow the club to be relegated" so now lets see the signs that the Club are going to put it right. Actions speak louder than words and so far I see from DC more words than action.
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