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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2015 17:06:06 GMT
re: turnstiles, this is minutes before kick-off.
You can of course say I should have got there earlier but if you think it makes sense to close two turnstiles the first home game of the season after promotion you shouldn't be in charge of match day organisation.
Eventually they just went "f**k it" and opened up the main gates. Do you mean they just let lots of people in for nothing? I must be misunderstanding, mustn't I? Dunno mate. I had a ticket but I just walked in with everyone else.
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Post by warehamgas on Aug 10, 2015 17:15:24 GMT
Unless you've worked in a pasty shop on the till and you've manned a turnstile, you shouldn't really be criticising. You should not be personal against the individuals on the tills but you can certainly be critical of the club or the firm for not ensuring people are properly trained or prepared for what was going to be a very busy afternoon. Just because I haven't been a policeman or whoever doesn't mean I can't be critical of the way they sometimes do their job? That way we would never ask questions or be critical of any organisation or any authority. People have the right to an opinion IMO. UTG!
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Post by gaseous on Aug 10, 2015 17:28:18 GMT
Unless you've worked in a pasty shop on the till and you've manned a turnstile, you shouldn't really be criticising. You should not be personal against the individuals on the tills but you can certainly be critical of the club or the firm for not ensuring people are properly trained or prepared for what was going to be a very busy afternoon. Just because I haven't been a policeman or whoever doesn't mean I can't be critical of the way they sometimes do their job? That way we would never ask questions or be critical of any organisation or any authority. People have the right to an opinion IMO. UTG! Yes I am critical about how things are being run at our club, bloody shoddy in fact but I would never have slated the young lad for his misgivings, we even helped him add our order up but they really should be more prepared for what was our biggest gate of the season.
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Post by warehamgas on Aug 10, 2015 17:30:14 GMT
You should not be personal against the individuals on the tills but you can certainly be critical of the club or the firm for not ensuring people are properly trained or prepared for what was going to be a very busy afternoon. Just because I haven't been a policeman or whoever doesn't mean I can't be critical of the way they sometimes do their job? That way we would never ask questions or be critical of any organisation or any authority. People have the right to an opinion IMO. UTG! Yes I am critical about how things are being run at our club, bloody shoddy in fact but I would never have slated the young lad for his misgivings, we even helped him add our order up but they really should be more prepared for what was our biggest gate of the season. Agree 100%.
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Post by Rod1883 on Aug 10, 2015 17:32:10 GMT
re: turnstiles, this is minutes before kick-off.
You can of course say I should have got there earlier but if you think it makes sense to close two turnstiles the first home game of the season after promotion you shouldn't be in charge of match day organisation.
Eventually they just went "f**k it" and opened up the main gates. Do you mean they just let lots of people in for nothing? I must be misunderstanding, mustn't I? Absolute shambles. Another loss of income for the club through lack of planning, foresight, or anything that resembles competence!
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Aug 10, 2015 17:36:24 GMT
Unless you've worked in a pasty shop on the till and you've manned a turnstile, you shouldn't really be criticising. You should not be personal against the individuals on the tills but you can certainly be critical of the club or the firm for not ensuring people are properly trained or prepared for what was going to be a very busy afternoon. Just because I haven't been a policeman or whoever doesn't mean I can't be critical of the way they sometimes do their job? That way we would never ask questions or be critical of any organisation or any authority. People have the right to an opinion IMO. UTG! Yeah, I completely agree. I was just being sarcastic in response to those posts we often get saying you shouldn't criticise the board unless you're prepared to buy the club, etc.
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Post by gaseous on Aug 10, 2015 17:37:52 GMT
The thing is does any of the board really care about what is going on at our club or do they really give two hoots about how we look from the outside. It seems not. Is it going to change? Probably not with the current board, so what is the solution? It us the paying fan that has to put up with it. I love my club but it really does make me wonder if I should be bothering when they can't even get the simple things right.
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Post by warehamgas on Aug 10, 2015 17:48:15 GMT
You should not be personal against the individuals on the tills but you can certainly be critical of the club or the firm for not ensuring people are properly trained or prepared for what was going to be a very busy afternoon. Just because I haven't been a policeman or whoever doesn't mean I can't be critical of the way they sometimes do their job? That way we would never ask questions or be critical of any organisation or any authority. People have the right to an opinion IMO. UTG! Yeah, I completely agree. I was just being sarcastic in response to those posts we often get saying you shouldn't criticise the board unless you're prepared to buy the club, etc. Yes you are right. In our frustration we mustn't take it on individuals who can't do anything about. As you imply we all need to have opinions and hold those responsible to account. I doubt if anything will happen will it... after all it's ok not to man turnstiles when you are expecting 8000 and it's your first match back in the football league! Do you think they hired a consultant from Woking to advise on turnstile / entry arrangements? UTG!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2015 17:55:20 GMT
BRFC Do not own or run the pasty hut's, they're franchised out. Never mind let's blame BRFC anyway.
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Post by gaseous on Aug 10, 2015 17:58:27 GMT
BRFC Do not own or run the pasty hut's, they're franchised out. Never mind let's blame BRFC anyway. They do however run and own the turnstiles, or are they franchised out too? Anyway, they are in sole charge and this has been going on for seasons.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2015 18:00:11 GMT
BRFC Do not own or run the pasty hut's, they're franchised out. Never mind let's blame BRFC anyway. They do however run and own the turnstiles, or are they franchised out too? Anyway, they are in sole charge and this has been going on for seasons. I didn't say they didn't, just pointing out all the sh** being thrown at BRFC who have nothing to do with it.
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Post by Rod1883 on Aug 10, 2015 18:02:53 GMT
They do however run and own the turnstiles, or are they franchised out too? Anyway, they are in sole charge and this has been going on for seasons. I didn't say they didn't, just pointing out all the sh** being thrown at BRFC who have nothing to do with it. How can the Board have nothing to do with all that goes on in and on their business and premises? Perhaps that is the problem - they really think they have nothing to do with the proper management of the Football Club!
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Post by gaseous on Aug 10, 2015 18:05:30 GMT
Whoever is running it, it is still poor service and when you add up the turnstile fiasco it makes our club look very amateur, we actually looked about right as a conference club last season.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2015 18:06:31 GMT
I didn't say they didn't, just pointing out all the sh** being thrown at BRFC who have nothing to do with it. How can the Board have nothing to do with all that goes on in and on their business and premises? Perhaps that is the problem - they really think they have nothing to do with the proper management of the Football Club!
I don't think you know how a franchised business works.
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 10, 2015 18:07:30 GMT
BRFC Do not own or run the pasty hut's, they're franchised out. Never mind let's blame BRFC anyway. So it was just an unfortunate coincidence that both the turnstiles and pasty huts were shockingly understaffed? I doubt that's the case, it as if nobody realised we'd get anything but a normal size attendance on Saturday.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2015 18:09:15 GMT
BRFC Do not own or run the pasty hut's, they're franchised out. Never mind let's blame BRFC anyway. So it was just an unfortunate coincidence that both the turnstiles and pasty huts were shockingly understaffed? I doubt that's the case, it as if nobody realised we'd get anything but a normal size attendance on Saturday. Maybe it was, maybe it wasn't, what I'm trying to get across is BRFC had NOTHING to do with the staffing in the pasty hut.
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Post by gaseous on Aug 10, 2015 18:11:44 GMT
BRFC Do not own or run the pasty hut's, they're franchised out. Never mind let's blame BRFC anyway. So it was just an unfortunate coincidence that both the turnstiles and pasty huts were shockingly understaffed? I doubt that's the case, it as if nobody realised we'd get anything but a normal size attendance on Saturday. It is still bad management by the club, to have these problems on what was obviously going to be a big gate and not be at the very least prepared is shockingly embarrassing for a business and don't forget this is a business where they are trying to make MONEY.
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Post by Mark Ash on Aug 10, 2015 18:15:45 GMT
How can the Board have nothing to do with all that goes on in and on their business and premises? Perhaps that is the problem - they really think they have nothing to do with the proper management of the Football Club!
I don't think you know how a franchised business works. But surely the club must take an interest in the service provided to their supporters? They may choose to do that by franchising, but if it's not working, they can't just shrug it off. Ultimately it IS the club's responsibility. As for opening the gates to let people in because they couldn't handle admitting a football crowd of 8,000, I despair. So what if people were on holiday/sick? That's what managers* do: they manage staffing. Shops up and down the high street cope with those problems every day. *I'm not talking about DC obviously.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2015 18:23:54 GMT
I don't think you know how a franchised business works. But surely the club must take an interest in the service provided to their supporters? They may choose to do that by franchising, but if it's not working, they can't just shrug it off. Ultimately it IS the club's responsibility. As for opening the gates to let people in because they couldn't handle admitting a football crowd of 8,000, I despair. So what if people were on holiday/sick? That's what managers* do: they manage staffing. Shops up and down the high street cope with those problems every day. *I'm not talking about DC obviously. He might as well Dam do it. He's the only person capable of doing anything right half the time. We could shove a broom up his arse and have him sweep the terrace after the match too.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 10, 2015 18:25:09 GMT
I don't think you know how a franchised business works. But surely the club must take an interest in the service provided to their supporters? They may choose to do that by franchising, but if it's not working, they can't just shrug it off. Ultimately it IS the club's responsibility. As for opening the gates to let people in because they couldn't handle admitting a football crowd of 8,000, I despair. So what if people were on holiday/sick? That's what managers* do: they manage staffing. Shops up and down the high street cope with those problems every day. *I'm not talking about DC obviously. Of course they do, but how can they take an interest before its happened? I'm sure they will take note of what's happened, but you don't franchise a business out and still employ someone to stand and watch each franchise. Do you know how franchises work? You can't blame them after one game. Please tell me what could BRFC have done to have made things better on Saturday?
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