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Post by peterhooper57 on Aug 30, 2015 13:17:30 GMT
Orient where and are a better side than BRFC at the moment. I still feel we can finish in the top 12 and with a couple of signing maybe push for the play offs after Christmas. UTG
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Post by stevek192 on Aug 30, 2015 13:44:33 GMT
No need to worry other than the fact that we seem to prefer 3-5-2 but don't have the depth in the right areas to cover injuries to the key components of that system. If however we play 4-4-2 then we have full cover in every position except for Lee Brown. We could also do with a targetman to provide a different focal point when the short guys fail.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2015 13:54:29 GMT
We could also do with a targetman to provide a different focal point when the short guys fail. Got anyone in mind ?
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Post by stevek192 on Aug 30, 2015 14:30:14 GMT
No haven't a clue !! I don't know many League players anymore after a season in Non League but there must be someone around!!!
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 30, 2015 14:39:46 GMT
No need to worry other than the fact that we seem to prefer 3-5-2 but don't have the depth in the right areas to cover injuries to the key components of that system. If however we play 4-4-2 then we have full cover in every position except for Lee Brown. We could also do with a targetman to provide a different focal point when the short guys fail. I would be more comfortable with Greenslades stepping up to replace Brown than the unknown Lyttle playing yesterday. Although you do wonder of the likes of Greenslades should be now given game time, as 2nd half subs, to make sure they are ready if required
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2015 15:41:01 GMT
I don't see any problem with Lyttle playing. I like it that DC is prepared to give them a shot at it. Obviously if we had won, Lyttle would be amazing but...
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Post by Deleted on Aug 30, 2015 17:05:55 GMT
20+ games unbeaten away from home is a superb stat when you consider how any 1 game can swing based on one piece of bad luck/sending off/bad refereeing decision etc,add the not infrequent homer ref into the equation as well then we've done incredibly well.The 5-3-2 was never gonna work every game and it seems that DC was outfoxed yesterday.That formation will not be as good against a team playing 1 man up top and I think we'll switch to a 4-4-2 a lot in home games as lesser teams will try and keep things tight and not get outnumbered in midfield.
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Post by WeAreTheGas on Aug 30, 2015 18:21:29 GMT
Perhaps if anything it highlights just how weak our squad is, we lose just one defender and we have to call up an Academy player for his debut! Tbf it was more DC's choice to do that than necessity. Lockyer and J.Clarke could have easily played at RB yesterday and been solid - but just not in a 3-5-2.
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Post by oldtoteender on Aug 30, 2015 19:10:07 GMT
I am happy with our start to the season but am not going to get carried away like some were, not trying to be negative but if you look at the teams we have beaten so far they are not exactly setting the division alight are they?
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Post by socrates on Aug 30, 2015 19:54:12 GMT
I am happy with our start to the season but am not going to get carried away like some were, not trying to be negative but if you look at the teams we have beaten so far they are not exactly setting the division alight are they? No they're in the bottom half which suggests that we'll probably do well against half the teams we come up against and maybe struggle against the other half.. With all the financial problems we've had and our lack of funds to bring in the 3 or 4 players needed to go for an automatic place that wouldn't be too bad. I think we can go for top 7 with some good loans though. The loan signings of lines LDV cunningtin and Dawson all played a part in our promotion and if we can bring in some loans like that again this season we could really do well.
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Post by oldtoteender on Aug 30, 2015 20:03:56 GMT
I agree but i do not like the idea of too many loanees because it is replacing them that is the problem and i think it can sometimes disrupt things, Yeovil are a prime example.
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Post by oldgas on Aug 30, 2015 20:14:14 GMT
I was there and we beat Torquay 1-0. We were extremely lucky to win. I was amazed when the players ran out with a firework display going off, I thought it strange to celebrate relegation in that way! we did have an amazing crowd of over 10500 , and attendances held up well for several months until we started to bomb down the table. Which relegation are you talking about? Last time under Buckle we lost 2-1. Beat Wombles away on TV. Lost to Torquay. Then won the next two. Rene Howe scored a penalty. When we went down to league 2 for the first time and GF came back to manage us. That was after Holloway, he who can do no wrong in some people's eyes, cynically manoeuvred the sack for himself having lined up the QPR job.
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Post by socrates on Aug 30, 2015 20:33:34 GMT
I agree but i do not like the idea of too many loanees because it is replacing them that is the problem and i think it can sometimes disrupt things, Yeovil are a prime example. Yeah we've replaced Dawson who I rate highly with two wingers who don't look that great so far, so I do get what your saying. I would have loved us to sign him on a 2-3 year deal I think he'll improve a lot over the next couple of years.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2015 1:04:18 GMT
we have done well playing 3-5-2 thats why dc stuck with it ,if he changed it to 4-4-2 all the jokers would blame the loss on inexplicably changing the formation?? theres never a special good time to give a young player his debut he was im sure selected because dc felt he was the best choice following leadbitters injury for the team simple as that
socrates why would we offer dawson a 2-3 year deal when no other league club has bothered with him only hard up kidderminster in the conference? if the manager wanted him he would have easily got him on a 1 year contract but he didnt want him,,,
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Post by Jomo on Aug 31, 2015 9:47:12 GMT
I am with those that are happy that Lyttle got a game. Of course it's a shame that he made some costly mistakes, but I really hope that this experience will stand him in good stead for the future. I'd rather see some of the youngsters given a chance, as they would be far more likely to make it and improve than if they never got a game.
Look at Leadbitter when he first joined us, hardly a world beater, but he's now become a top player for us. Perhaps with the right management and hard work, Lyttle, Greenslade, Broom etc, will do the same.
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Post by socrates on Aug 31, 2015 9:59:06 GMT
we have done well playing 3-5-2 thats why dc stuck with it ,if he changed it to 4-4-2 all the jokers would blame the loss on inexplicably changing the formation?? theres never a special good time to give a young player his debut he was im sure selected because dc felt he was the best choice following leadbitters injury for the team simple as that socrates why would we offer dawson a 2-3 year deal when no other league club has bothered with him only hard up kidderminster in the conference? if the manager wanted him he would have easily got him on a 1 year contract but he didnt want him,,, I don't care if no other league club wanted him I base my opinions on players on what I've seen not what other people think. I thought he was decent and would have been just what we need out wide when playing 4-4-2.
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Post by daniel300380 on Aug 31, 2015 10:19:53 GMT
we have done well playing 3-5-2 thats why dc stuck with it ,if he changed it to 4-4-2 all the jokers would blame the loss on inexplicably changing the formation?? theres never a special good time to give a young player his debut he was im sure selected because dc felt he was the best choice following leadbitters injury for the team simple as that socrates why would we offer dawson a 2-3 year deal when no other league club has bothered with him only hard up kidderminster in the conference? if the manager wanted him he would have easily got him on a 1 year contract but he didnt want him,,, I don't care if no other league club wanted him I base my opinions on players on what I've seen not what other people think. I thought he was decent and would have been just what we need out wide when playing 4-4-2. He did OK in the conference, but nothing fantastic. Hard to tell if he would have been successful in the league.
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Post by peterhooper57 on Aug 31, 2015 10:30:45 GMT
IMO DC needs to swallow his pride and go back and sign Dawson, he would be a very good player in div 4, especially if the manger wants to play 3-5-2; Lockyer is a very good centre back, but has no pace and does not like a player coming at him on the inside, where he has to turn, and with leadbitter out, we have a problem. The so called wingers brought in during the summer are not that great. I guess he could give Gosling a run in the side although he tends to fade in out of games.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 31, 2015 10:43:23 GMT
we have done well playing 3-5-2 thats why dc stuck with it ,if he changed it to 4-4-2 all the jokers would blame the loss on inexplicably changing the formation?? theres never a special good time to give a young player his debut he was im sure selected because dc felt he was the best choice following leadbitters injury for the team simple as that socrates why would we offer dawson a 2-3 year deal when no other league club has bothered with him only hard up kidderminster in the conference? if the manager wanted him he would have easily got him on a 1 year contract but he didnt want him,,, I don't care if no other league club wanted him I base my opinions on players on what I've seen not what other people think. I thought he was decent and would have been just what we need out wide when playing 4-4-2. not saying he wasnt decent but its obvious dc wasnt keen or he could have got him on a 1 year deal...it will be interesting to see how he gets on this season and beyond.
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Post by socrates on Aug 31, 2015 10:50:35 GMT
I don't care if no other league club wanted him I base my opinions on players on what I've seen not what other people think. I thought he was decent and would have been just what we need out wide when playing 4-4-2. not saying he wasnt decent but its obvious dc wasnt keen or he could have got him on a 1 year deal...it will be interesting to see how he gets on this season and beyond. Yeah I was surprised DC didn't want him to be honest. We usually looked much quicker and created more with him on the pitch. His control and the way he used the ball showed I thought that he had ability and had been coached well. I'll be very surprised if he didn't make it as at least a league 1 player in the future.
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