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Post by wiaww on Oct 26, 2015 23:26:03 GMT
F*cking hate this "can't even do x, y or z" attitude. No you can't you little brat, not when you're on stupid money for kicking a ball about because one of the only things you have to do as a footballer is try and have even a modicum of respect for the people that pay through the nose to watch you do something you love doing for very good financial reward.
I've always stuck up for Ellis, I've argued (literally) his case on the terrace countless times and I want to like the boy, I really do, but this really makes us look like c*nts and does he give a toss? Does he f*ck. Maybe he should spend less time trying to prove the "haters" wrong and a little more proving those that have supported him right.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2015 23:28:21 GMT
Presumably the same applies to Gosling and Lockyer?
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Post by gwengers on Oct 26, 2015 23:28:50 GMT
For me it has very little to do with if he should or shouldn't be there (I personally don't care too much either way, although I guess deep down I would rather he wasn't sitting shoulder to shoulder with our clubs greatest enemy)...
It is just that this reaction is inevitable. Why give people the opportunity then complain and get all petulant after the fact.
It wouldn't take a rocket scientist to predict this kind of reaction ahead of time. Showing a bit more tact wouldn't be the worst thing in the world.
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Post by Dr Gas on Oct 26, 2015 23:29:16 GMT
Who knows what they were doing there? Some posters have stated that the two players were in the away end and some the neutral end. Some have assumed Ellis was queuing for beer. Even if he was, what is wrong with that? Players do not have to be teetotal. Now you have suggested that they were actually supporting the sheds. Every picture may tell a story, but in this case it definitely paints a thousand words Is there such a thing as a "neutral end" at Cardiff? I would imagine they may have been on comps from Wes Burns, hence being in the away section. It seems that Tom Lockyer was also there - surely him and Gosling deserve a thread of their own to take the stick. There are far worse things they could have been doing on a Monday evening. TT: What on earth are you insinuating? That they were watching a teammate, who provided the tickets for them to do so? How very dare they! Shock, horror. It stinks to have international players
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Post by Deleted on Oct 26, 2015 23:32:24 GMT
Presumably the same applies to Gosling and Lockyer? I meant his latest 'tweet'. He doesn't need to make the situation worse. He went to the game, he doesn't see anything wrong, fine, just don't tweet about and wind up people more! Makes me think it's all about attention
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Post by stigofthegas on Oct 26, 2015 23:34:33 GMT
F*cking hate this "can't even do x, y or z" attitude. No you can't you little brat, not when you're on stupid money for kicking a ball about because one of the only things you have to do as a footballer is try and have even a modicum of respect for the people that pay through the nose to watch you do something you love doing for very good financial reward. I've always stuck up for Ellis, I've argued (literally) his case on the terrace countless times and I want to like the boy, I really do, but this really makes us look like c*nts and does he give a toss? Does he f*ck. Maybe he should spend less time trying to prove the "haters" wrong and a little more proving those that have supported him right. I can't believe everyone is so worked up about this. Wes Burns is his team mate in the Welsh Squad. Is he supposed to hate him as soon as he comes back to Bristol. Or should he pretend to hate him to make the haters feel better? His only mistake was to tweet about it rather than just keep his head down but that is hardly crime of the century.
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Post by Dr Gas on Oct 26, 2015 23:36:19 GMT
F*cking hate this "can't even do x, y or z" attitude. No you can't you little brat, not when you're on stupid money for kicking a ball about because one of the only things you have to do as a footballer is try and have even a modicum of respect for the people that pay through the nose to watch you do something you love doing for very good financial reward. I've always stuck up for Ellis, I've argued (literally) his case on the terrace countless times and I want to like the boy, I really do, but this really makes us look like c*nts and does he give a toss? Does he f*ck. Maybe he should spend less time trying to prove the "haters" wrong and a little more proving those that have supported him right. They are not "born and bred" Gasheads though! If they stay here a while, like Vaughan Jones or Pete Aitken for instance, then maybe their attitudes will change but they are only young and although they may be Rovers players they have still not got the dislike/hatred for those who float. The fact that derby matches have not really existed for far too long does not help to foster a strong us and them relationship.
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Post by wiaww on Oct 26, 2015 23:49:56 GMT
F*cking hate this "can't even do x, y or z" attitude. No you can't you little brat, not when you're on stupid money for kicking a ball about because one of the only things you have to do as a footballer is try and have even a modicum of respect for the people that pay through the nose to watch you do something you love doing for very good financial reward. I've always stuck up for Ellis, I've argued (literally) his case on the terrace countless times and I want to like the boy, I really do, but this really makes us look like c*nts and does he give a toss? Does he f*ck. Maybe he should spend less time trying to prove the "haters" wrong and a little more proving those that have supported him right. I can't believe everyone is so worked up about this. Wes Burns is his team mate in the Welsh Squad. Is he supposed to hate him as soon as he comes back to Bristol. Or should he pretend to hate him to make the haters feel better? His only mistake was to tweet about it rather than just keep his head down but that is hardly crime of the century. His options aren't restricted to; -Watch him play -Hate him He could have (amongst other things) chosen to politely decline the tickets (if it was the case that they were complimentary tickets supplied by his Under-21 international team mate) on the grounds that it wouldn't be appropriate to watch his club's biggest rivals two days after losing to the side bottom of the division at home. I agree that it was a mistake to tweet about it though. I don't know about anyone else but for me none of this is "crime of the century" stuff, it's an accumulation of smaller things that paint a picture that Ellis is way more interested in doing whatever-the-f*ck-he-pleases in order to demonstrate that he's not perturbed by the so-called "haters" than he is about showing little consideration or respect to people who support him week in week out.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 27, 2015 0:00:31 GMT
I can't believe everyone is so worked up about this. Wes Burns is his team mate in the Welsh Squad. Is he supposed to hate him as soon as he comes back to Bristol. Or should he pretend to hate him to make the haters feel better? His only mistake was to tweet about it rather than just keep his head down but that is hardly crime of the century. His options aren't restricted to; -Watch him play -Hate him He could have (amongst other things) chosen to politely decline the tickets (if it was the case that they were complimentary tickets supplied by his Under-21 international team mate) on the grounds that it wouldn't be appropriate to watch his club's biggest rivals two days after losing to the side bottom of the division at home. I agree that it was a mistake to tweet about it though. I don't know about anyone else but for me none of this is "crime of the century" stuff, it's an accumulation of smaller things that paint a picture that Ellis is way more interested in doing whatever-the-f*ck-he-pleases in order to demonstrate that he's not perturbed by the so-called "haters" than he is about showing little consideration or respect to people who support him week in week out. Nail on head.
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Post by 4evergas67 on Oct 27, 2015 0:03:55 GMT
F**k me if Clarke don't sort this out soon we will have half the team clapping a good goal by the opposition during a game.
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Post by wiaww on Oct 27, 2015 0:05:45 GMT
F*cking hate this "can't even do x, y or z" attitude. No you can't you little brat, not when you're on stupid money for kicking a ball about because one of the only things you have to do as a footballer is try and have even a modicum of respect for the people that pay through the nose to watch you do something you love doing for very good financial reward. I've always stuck up for Ellis, I've argued (literally) his case on the terrace countless times and I want to like the boy, I really do, but this really makes us look like c*nts and does he give a toss? Does he f*ck. Maybe he should spend less time trying to prove the "haters" wrong and a little more proving those that have supported him right. They are not "born and bred" Gasheads though! If they stay here a while, like Vaughan Jones or Pete Aitken for instance, then maybe their attitudes will change but they are only young and although they may be Rovers players they have still not got the dislike/hatred for those who float. The fact that derby matches have not really existed for far too long does not help to foster a strong us and them relationship. He's played in a derby match that ended with 50 arrests. He's been at the club for at least six years, in around the first team for nearly five of those. He knows where we stand with City. Like I said before I want to like him, and I keep giving him the benefit of the doubt but I think it's misplaced.
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Post by chewbacca on Oct 27, 2015 0:08:22 GMT
Classic GasChat.
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Post by lincsblue on Oct 27, 2015 0:20:38 GMT
Tom Lockyer has posted on FB that he wasn't there
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Post by RD on Oct 27, 2015 6:47:23 GMT
The fact is it was bound to create this drama.
Ergo anyone with half a braincell or who gave two sh*ts would have politely declined the offer.
I couldn't care if he gets off on City performances, but posting it to Twitter? Senseless move. Likewise I couldn't care if he wants to watch City in his spare time. But going and watching them live in the away end (Cardiff have a neutral section; really?), ending up with it all over Twitter and then posting about it takes the biscuit IMO.
Message to Ellis:
Keep your head down, work hard, find the f**king net once in a while this season and you might not be needing to get a ST at Ashton Gate because you no longer have a professional football career due to playing part time for Braintree in the Conference.
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Post by Captain Jayho on Oct 27, 2015 7:04:51 GMT
If Ellis (or any rovers player) is good mates with some city players then I don't really give two hoots, if anything it's a good thing that they can rise above it all and act like adults.
And if they went to watch the match from the home end then I can't say I think it's a great idea but it's not exactly a hanging offence.
If they watched it in the away end (which I simply don't believe for a number of reasons) then that's a different matter and I'd be pretty watered off.
There are two issues really, the most important being that they are professionals who represent our club and are paid to perform on the field. By going to the game they are clearly putting themselves in a position of danger where they could quite conceivably get a kicking from one of the many illiterate neanderthals that would have been inhabiting the away end. It only takes being recognised by someone and then one tw@t trying to make himself a hero and before you know it one or all of them can't play next week. And to be honest, to an extent that includes turning up in the home end as it's not inconceivable that they could accidentally run into a mob of baying primates outside the stadium - it wasn't a proper bubble game I don't think so not impossible.
And secondly it would be fairly disrespectful to the club and the fans to go in the away end. They're hardly going to be going mental if the sh1t score so going in the home end would surely be a non-issue. And if they do go mental then frankly they can stop when they get to BS3 on the way back and not come any further...
Simply don't believe they were in the away end though. If any sh1theads spotted them then the word would spread quickly - particularly given how small their away following is - and there would be heaps more than the single picture of them on Twitter/OTIB etc. Plus they'd have got a kicking.
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Post by Jon the Stripe on Oct 27, 2015 7:11:28 GMT
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Post by RD on Oct 27, 2015 7:12:40 GMT
If Ellis (or any rovers player) is good mates with some city players then I don't really give two hoots, if anything it's a good thing that they can rise above it all and act like adults. And if they went to watch the match from the home end then I can't say I think it's a great idea but it's not exactly a hanging offence. If they watched it in the away end (which I simply don't believe for a number of reasons) then that's a different matter and I'd be pretty watered off. There are two issues really, the most important being that they are professionals who represent our club and are paid to perform on the field. By going to the game they are clearly putting themselves in a position of danger where they could quite conceivably get a kicking from one of the many illiterate neanderthals that would have been inhabiting the away end. It only takes being recognised by someone and then one tw@t trying to make himself a hero and before you know it one or all of them can't play next week. And to be honest, to an extent that includes turning up in the home end as it's not inconceivable that they could accidentally run into a mob of baying primates outside the stadium - it wasn't a proper bubble game I don't think so not impossible. And secondly it would be fairly disrespectful to the club and the fans to go in the away end. They're hardly going to be going mental if the sh1t score so going in the home end would surely be a non-issue. And if they do go mental then frankly they can stop when they get to BS3 on the way back and not come any further... Simply don't believe they were in the away end though. If any sh1theads spotted them then the word would spread quickly - particularly given how small their away following is - and there would be heaps more than the single picture of them on Twitter/OTIB etc. Plus they'd have got a kicking. But isn't the picture from a concourse inside the ground? If so, how would a city fan have been able to take the picture of him, as he wouldn't have been able to get to the Cardiff side?
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Post by RD on Oct 27, 2015 7:13:26 GMT
' Yep, another image of him seeking attention
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Post by RD on Oct 27, 2015 7:14:24 GMT
I'm sorry Jon, but if a Rangers player went to a Celtic match, I'm pretty sure there would be some questions asked by the Rangers fans
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Post by Captain Jayho on Oct 27, 2015 7:19:26 GMT
If Ellis (or any rovers player) is good mates with some city players then I don't really give two hoots, if anything it's a good thing that they can rise above it all and act like adults. And if they went to watch the match from the home end then I can't say I think it's a great idea but it's not exactly a hanging offence. If they watched it in the away end (which I simply don't believe for a number of reasons) then that's a different matter and I'd be pretty watered off. There are two issues really, the most important being that they are professionals who represent our club and are paid to perform on the field. By going to the game they are clearly putting themselves in a position of danger where they could quite conceivably get a kicking from one of the many illiterate neanderthals that would have been inhabiting the away end. It only takes being recognised by someone and then one tw@t trying to make himself a hero and before you know it one or all of them can't play next week. And to be honest, to an extent that includes turning up in the home end as it's not inconceivable that they could accidentally run into a mob of baying primates outside the stadium - it wasn't a proper bubble game I don't think so not impossible. And secondly it would be fairly disrespectful to the club and the fans to go in the away end. They're hardly going to be going mental if the sh1t score so going in the home end would surely be a non-issue. And if they do go mental then frankly they can stop when they get to BS3 on the way back and not come any further... Simply don't believe they were in the away end though. If any sh1theads spotted them then the word would spread quickly - particularly given how small their away following is - and there would be heaps more than the single picture of them on Twitter/OTIB etc. Plus they'd have got a kicking. But isn't the picture from a concourse inside the ground? If so, how would a city fan have been able to take the picture of him, as he wouldn't have been able to get to the Cardiff side? No idea, never been to that ground so no idea of the layout or what areas are available. Probably shouldn't hang him until the truth comes out though. Would be incredible in this day and age if only one photo surfaced of him though given how small an area they occupied in the stand. Maybe he was in this famed 'neutral area'. Never heard of it before but based on my trips to Ninian Park when we used to play them (sigh) I think the neutral area might be the 'no man's land' between the away following and the local inbreds over which all kinds of ordnance would be flying throughout the match, mostly open bottles of warm urine. If he was in the neutral area I hope he followed the two key rules, don't look up and don't open your mouth.
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