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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2015 8:16:15 GMT
Top bloke DC, a lot more honest and open than most managers we've had, which I respect, and he is trying to do something special here.
Everyone knows the problems lie in the boardroom (except the board obvs)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2015 8:16:43 GMT
The point Iam trying to make for those that can get to away games you see the same team but completely different results Even when we go a goal down in away games we seem to have the resolve to get a result It seems for a while now our luck has deserted us at home The players are making mistakes which get punished the crowd goes quiet and we just can not seem to get the ball in the net But one thing you can not blame them for is effort we had 25 shots and 17 corners ! It's time to stick together and ride this storm We are Gasheads rise up and be counted UTG Different tactics, different results. Thats down to the manager.
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Post by gasheadbatesy on Nov 9, 2015 8:26:22 GMT
They must have been tired after half hour then. We beat the keeper 1st half, there defender cleared it off the line.
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Post by socrates on Nov 9, 2015 8:39:02 GMT
I'd take the team we had towards the end of last season over the one we have now. We haven't replaced Dawson or Monkhouse, and Lines just doesn't look arsed now he's not playing for a contract. We've tried three goalkeepers yet none have looked like an upgrade on Puddy who wasn't good enough for League 2 in the first place. Ollie Clarke wasn't good enough us when we were a top Conference team, yet he's played loads this season. The only area we've improved in is CB, and that was by signing James Clarke (yet another Conference player) on a free. The rest of the team has either remained as good as it was in non-League (strikers, full backs, and central midfielders), or got worse (Goalkeeper, wingers). The brutal truth is that we're playing a Conference team in League 2, and DC has done brilliantly to have us well away from the relegation zone which is where a squad like this belongs. Well said. I've being saying all season that we're not as strong as last season too. We really should have done everything to sign Dawson but we need to get rid of Montana ASAP and get at least one winger in , someone who will run at a full back and cross the ball. And a target man. Tapping it around and keeping possession works well when you've got the best squad in the division which is why it worked well last season but this season we've got an average squad for league two and at home we're all sideways passes and no steel wen we get in the final third. It needs to change pronto. As for DC he's doing a good job with what he's got to work with but whether he could have spent the budget more wisely is obviously open for debate.
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Post by dinsdale on Nov 9, 2015 9:10:46 GMT
DC could have done better but he is a relatively inexperienced league manager. I believe we need to stick with him and he will learn and improve.
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 9, 2015 9:20:11 GMT
Pointless saying we should have signed Dawson as it's clear he has personal "issues" he needs to resolve by playing nearer to his north west home. Monky was offered a better deal by Grimsby which just suggests what budget DC had to play with!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2015 9:59:05 GMT
We lost to a team 75 places below us, and many are blaming it on lack of budget for the manager? Wake up boys. It was nothing to do with the budget. Stop blaming the board, and blame the players for once.
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 9, 2015 10:06:07 GMT
If the players aren't good enough is it really their fault? One goal a home game prior to Sunday suggests there's a serious issue on the strikers front.
Take off those rose tinted "I love NH" glasses and see the real facts for once, DC has basically a non-league squad trying to play Div 2 football.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Nov 9, 2015 10:16:39 GMT
If the players aren't good enough is it really their fault? One goal a home game prior to Sunday suggests there's a serious issue on the strikers front. Take off those rose tinted "I love NH" glasses and see the real facts for once, DC has basically a non-league squad trying to play Div 2 football. We got promoted from the conference last season so Im pretty sure the players arr good enough to beat a side 75 places below us!!!!
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Nov 9, 2015 10:17:03 GMT
We lost to a team 75 places below us, and many are blaming it on lack of budget for the manager? Wake up boys. It was nothing to do with the budget. Stop blaming the board, and blame the players for once. Amen brother! A Dam men!
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 9, 2015 10:22:02 GMT
If the players aren't good enough is it really their fault? One goal a home game prior to Sunday suggests there's a serious issue on the strikers front. Take off those rose tinted "I love NH" glasses and see the real facts for once, DC has basically a non-league squad trying to play Div 2 football. We got promoted from the conference last season so Im pretty sure the players arr good enough to beat a side 75 places below us!!!! Clearly not because we lost? Yesterday just highlighted the problems we've had all season at home, we simply can't score. Although given Cunnington & Blisset were brought in last season, along with Martin, LDV & Dawson, then it's hardly surprising last season's attacking players aren't good enough, as for a big part of last season they weren't even good enough for the Conference.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Nov 9, 2015 10:24:18 GMT
We got promoted from the conference last season so Im pretty sure the players arr good enough to beat a side 75 places below us!!!! Clearly not because we lost? Yesterday just highlighted the problems we've had all season at home, we simply can't score. Although given Cunnington & Blisset were brought in last season, along with Martin, LDV & Dawson, then it's hardly surprising last season's attacking players aren't good enough, as for a big part of last season they weren't even good enough for the Conference. We lost because they didn't play to their potential. Not because they are not good enough.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2015 10:31:41 GMT
If the players aren't good enough is it really their fault? One goal a home game prior to Sunday suggests there's a serious issue on the strikers front. Take off those rose tinted "I love NH" glasses and see the real facts for once, DC has basically a non-league squad trying to play Div 2 football. Look, when you lose to a team 75 places below you, then there really is only one answer as to why, and that is the player's attitude. Forget budget's, forget formations, it's just that the players thought they would have any easy day at work. No doubt DC tried to get them ready for the game, but if mentally they have not prepared themselves, then sometimes you have to blame the players themselves. Anyone who has played the game will tell you that the mentality of the players at the start of any game is crucial. If you start off slow and sloppy, it can be really difficult to change it during the game.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Nov 9, 2015 10:33:24 GMT
Clearly not because we lost? Yesterday just highlighted the problems we've had all season at home, we simply can't score. Although given Cunnington & Blisset were brought in last season, along with Martin, LDV & Dawson, then it's hardly surprising last season's attacking players aren't good enough, as for a big part of last season they weren't even good enough for the Conference. We lost because they didn't play to their potential. Not because they are not good enough. If you are a plumber and I give you an old hammer and a crappy pair of mole grips is it then your fault you can't fix my radiator? I think DC has been seriously hampered by lack of investment. That said, the players we do have should have won yesterday. As always, both sides make a good case and as always I think the truth lies in combining the 2 arguments.
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Post by britishgas on Nov 9, 2015 10:53:04 GMT
We lost to a team 75 places below us, and many are blaming it on lack of budget for the manager? Wake up boys. It was nothing to do with the budget. Stop blaming the board, and blame the players for once. Of course I blame the players, but my post wasn't about yesterday's game. It was about DC in general and how he's overachieved with a poor squad.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2015 10:58:23 GMT
We lost to a team 75 places below us, and many are blaming it on lack of budget for the manager? Wake up boys. It was nothing to do with the budget. Stop blaming the board, and blame the players for once. Of course I blame the players, but my post wasn't about yesterday's game. It was about DC in general and how he's overachieved with a poor squad. My apologies, but my post wasn't aimed at you. It was aimed at those blaming the board for not providing a huge budget.
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Post by Topper Gas on Nov 9, 2015 10:59:45 GMT
If the players aren't good enough is it really their fault? One goal a home game prior to Sunday suggests there's a serious issue on the strikers front. Take off those rose tinted "I love NH" glasses and see the real facts for once, DC has basically a non-league squad trying to play Div 2 football. Look, when you lose to a team 75 places below you, then there really is only one answer as to why, and that is the player's attitude. Forget budget's, forget formations, it's just that the players thought they would have any easy day at work. No doubt DC tried to get them ready for the game, but if mentally they have not prepared themselves, then sometimes you have to blame the players themselves. Anyone who has played the game will tell you that the mentality of the players at the start of any game is crucial. If you start off slow and sloppy, it can be really difficult to change it during the game. But apart from last season we've under achieved/players haven't seem interested ever since Lambert was sold. What's the common dominator? It's not the manager or players but whatever goes on behind the scenes clearly isn't working. NH has made the whole club an embarrassment, when it use to be a great club to support.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Nov 9, 2015 11:01:47 GMT
Of course I blame the players, but my post wasn't about yesterday's game. It was about DC in general and how he's overachieved with a poor squad. My apologies, but my post wasn't aimed at you. It was aimed at those blaming the board for not providing a huge budget. It's a bit to blame. A fish rots from the head.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Nov 9, 2015 11:02:01 GMT
Look, when you lose to a team 75 places below you, then there really is only one answer as to why, and that is the player's attitude. Forget budget's, forget formations, it's just that the players thought they would have any easy day at work. No doubt DC tried to get them ready for the game, but if mentally they have not prepared themselves, then sometimes you have to blame the players themselves. Anyone who has played the game will tell you that the mentality of the players at the start of any game is crucial. If you start off slow and sloppy, it can be really difficult to change it during the game. But apart from last season we've under achieved/players haven't seem interested ever since Lambert was sold. What's the common dominator? It's not the manager or players but whatever goes on behind the scenes clearly isn't working. NH has made the whole club an embarrassment, when it use to be a great club to support. It really is beyond belief thag you are blaming Nick Higgs for yesteday's defeat. You will be telling us Chesham have a bigger budget than us next!
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Post by Deleted on Nov 9, 2015 12:43:52 GMT
I thought the effort was there from the players,it was again poor finishing,and imo the wrong players were subbed. I can't recall our wide players Bodin or Gosling trying to get to the byeline or get in behind them at all,much like a lot of home games this season. On this occasion I feel DC made a poor decision when taking off Taylor and Mansell,also not throwing McChrystal forward for at least the six minutes of added on time to try and get on the end of all the high balls and crosses. The buck stops with the manager for this one,but we do need a loan or two now,someone who can try and attack all the crosses from corners and in open play and actually have some physical presence up front
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