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Post by markczgas on Jul 26, 2014 13:43:00 GMT
Dear Supporters,
We would like to inform you about our reflections on The Question & Answer event held at Rovers' Stadium on July 21st.
We were pleased, that finally, the club agreed to hold the event so that there was a chance for ALL supporters to come and ask questions and find out what the board's explanations were with regards to our season-on-season failure and how they planned to put Rovers back on track.
Obviously, our major concern was that the questions unanimously agreed upon at our second “Wellie” meeting of July 1st were NOT on the question list on the night and therefore we were unable to ask them. This is despite Nick Higgs ringing Mark prior to the event assuring him that all YOUR questions would be raised and answered. At the end of The Question & Answer we appealed to him that this was grossly unfair on all the supporters who took time to meet up with us over the 2 evenings this summer. Furthermore, to this date, Nick Higgs has not thought it necessary to contact Mark to apologise or give an explanation for it.
As a result, we the leadership have decided to request a further small meeting with a/the Board Member(s) to get the answers to the questions that the fans, like yourself, desperately wanted answering. We hope this will happen before the end of August. We would also like to have this meeting to encourage the board to outline their vision for the club going forward until The UWE stadium is completed.
Although we were largely disappointed with the outcome of The Question & Answer we acknowledge that some concerns (including yours) were addressed, namely some positive new that the stadium build will go ahead and the admittance that communication between the club and fans has to be improved, which we look forward to seeing put into action sooner rather than later to bring supporters and the board closer together.
Please feel free to contact us with your reflections and ideas about The Question & Answer event held last Monday, our plan to write to the club to hold a further meeting and any other suggestions that you feel strongly about.
We would like to thank all the supporters who have either attended any of the two “Wellie” Meetings or have supported/encouraged us via social media and/or email in our quest to improve the fortunes of Rovers, which we all so dearly want in order to see change for the better.
Mark Czekalski
Jon Thorne (Jon The Stripe)
Bernard Brian (Pirate 49)
Affectionately known as “The Wellie Group”.
Up The Gas !
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2014 17:59:18 GMT
Dear the wellie group, hurry up and merge with Brisa like we voted to do at the last meeting :-) :-) :-)
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Post by fanboy on Jul 26, 2014 18:09:43 GMT
Dear the wellie group, hurry up and merge with Brisa like we voted to do at the last meeting :-) :-) :-) Hope not
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Post by Hugo Admin on Jul 26, 2014 18:31:04 GMT
I went to the first meeting. I gotta say these guys are solid gasheads who just want the best for the club. Cant really knock it to be honest and if I was to join any type of supporters club it would be independent.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2014 18:43:33 GMT
I went to the first meeting. I gotta say these guys are solid gasheads who just want the best for the club. Cant really knock it to be honest and if I was to join any type of supporters club it would be independent. Join brisa then as that the only independant group
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Post by Hugo Admin on Jul 26, 2014 19:03:50 GMT
IF dins.. Personally still hold some reservations about joining any group. Would be happy to discuss in private but not in public. Anything I say on this board is taken as the 'ethos' of the forum instead of my own view sadly. Sad but true.
Oh and when I said IF, I meant 'if'. Nothing to do with any abbreviated group.
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Post by aghast on Jul 26, 2014 21:53:18 GMT
IF dins.. Personally still hold some reservations about joining any group. Would be happy to discuss in private but not in public. Anything I say on this board is taken as the 'ethos' of the forum instead of my own view sadly. Sad but true. Oh and when I said IF, I meant 'if'. Nothing to do with any abbreviated group. OLD RAS: NEW RAS:
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Post by Hugo Admin on Jul 26, 2014 22:40:43 GMT
Haha you don't know what's going on under that table.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2014 7:16:52 GMT
To be frank Mark, the fact that you and the Wellie group were totally ignored, even when one of the reps has raised funds that benefited the club in the past, tells you all you need to know. At some point, if you really want to influence change, you will realise that the softly softly approach is pointless.
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Post by gasincider on Jul 27, 2014 8:05:26 GMT
Whilst I have no issue with you setting up your own independent supporters group, I do have one or two observations to make.
Correct me if I'm wrong but a friend tells me that you (Mark) don't intend to attend future home games. What does that mean, are you hoping to persuade others not to attend? If not, what credibility do you think you have in the eyes of the fans if you don't intend going to our home games? How can you hope to represent their views if you don't attend yourself?
Further, I am amazed if you had an agreement with NH to ask and get answers to questions raised by people from your meeting. Why should you get that level of precedence? The rest of us bothered to attend, and quite rightly got the right to put our questions. Should we have all sat back and just let you talk to the chairman without any chance of getting involved ourselves?
If the people you say you represent can be bothered to attend a Wellie meeting, but can't be bothered to attend a meeting with the people that matter to let them know what they think they don't deserve to have their questions raised. As it happens there were people from your group in attendance, so all they had to do was submit questions as the rest of us did(not that I agree with that part of the format)
You say none of your questions were asked. As all subjects bar Wycombe were broached, I would suggest that whatever remaining points weren't touched on must have been pretty uninspiring.
I wonder, could you put the questions you wanted to ask on here and let us all know what they were?
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Post by Jon the Stripe on Jul 27, 2014 8:51:30 GMT
Hi everyone. I'm at the open day today.meeting FFS MEMBERS. Happy to answer any questions if you'd like to pop over and say hello. I should be in the supporters club bar
I'll always be open and honest with anyone who has thoughts.
UTG
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2014 18:24:34 GMT
Whilst I have no issue with you setting up your own independent supporters group, I do have one or two observations to make. Correct me if I'm wrong but a friend tells me that you (Mark) don't intend to attend future home games. What does that mean, are you hoping to persuade others not to attend? If not, what credibility do you think you have in the eyes of the fans if you don't intend going to our home games? How can you hope to represent their views if you don't attend yourself? Further, I am amazed if you had an agreement with NH to ask and get answers to questions raised by people from your meeting. Why should you get that level of precedence? The rest of us bothered to attend, and quite rightly got the right to put our questions. Should we have all sat back and just let you talk to the chairman without any chance of getting involved ourselves? If the people you say you represent can be bothered to attend a Wellie meeting, but can't be bothered to attend a meeting with the people that matter to let them know what they think they don't deserve to have their questions raised. As it happens there were people from your group in attendance, so all they had to do was submit questions as the rest of us did(not that I agree with that part of the format) You say none of your questions were asked. As all subjects bar Wycombe were broached, I would suggest that whatever remaining points weren't touched on must have been pretty uninspiring. I wonder, could you put the questions you wanted to ask on here and let us all know what they were? I think you have missed the point completely. Also, Higgs phoned Mark and promised to answer the questions and allow follow up. The man's an outright liar
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Post by Henbury Gas on Jul 27, 2014 19:34:51 GMT
Whilst I have no issue with you setting up your own independent supporters group, I do have one or two observations to make. Correct me if I'm wrong but a friend tells me that you (Mark) don't intend to attend future home games. What does that mean, are you hoping to persuade others not to attend? If not, what credibility do you think you have in the eyes of the fans if you don't intend going to our home games? How can you hope to represent their views if you don't attend yourself? Further, I am amazed if you had an agreement with NH to ask and get answers to questions raised by people from your meeting. Why should you get that level of precedence? The rest of us bothered to attend, and quite rightly got the right to put our questions. Should we have all sat back and just let you talk to the chairman without any chance of getting involved ourselves? If the people you say you represent can be bothered to attend a Wellie meeting, but can't be bothered to attend a meeting with the people that matter to let them know what they think they don't deserve to have their questions raised. As it happens there were people from your group in attendance, so all they had to do was submit questions as the rest of us did(not that I agree with that part of the format) You say none of your questions were asked. As all subjects bar Wycombe were broached, I would suggest that whatever remaining points weren't touched on must have been pretty uninspiring. I wonder, could you put the questions you wanted to ask on here and let us all know what they were? I think you have missed the point completely. Also, Higgs phoned Mark and promised to answer the questions and allow follow up. The man's an outright liar Perhaps Mr higgs thought this group is not representative enough of the fans ?? How many members in the Wellie group ??
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2014 19:45:05 GMT
I think you have missed the point completely. Also, Higgs phoned Mark and promised to answer the questions and allow follow up. The man's an outright liar Perhaps Mr higgs thought this group is not representative enough of the fans ?? How many members in the Wellie group ?? Ahh, that old chestnut. We only recognise official channels
This has been the same story for years
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2014 19:56:07 GMT
Whilst I have no issue with you setting up your own independent supporters group, I do have one or two observations to make. Correct me if I'm wrong but a friend tells me that you (Mark) don't intend to attend future home games. What does that mean, are you hoping to persuade others not to attend? If not, what credibility do you think you have in the eyes of the fans if you don't intend going to our home games? How can you hope to represent their views if you don't attend yourself? Further, I am amazed if you had an agreement with NH to ask and get answers to questions raised by people from your meeting. Why should you get that level of precedence? The rest of us bothered to attend, and quite rightly got the right to put our questions. Should we have all sat back and just let you talk to the chairman without any chance of getting involved ourselves? If the people you say you represent can be bothered to attend a Wellie meeting, but can't be bothered to attend a meeting with the people that matter to let them know what they think they don't deserve to have their questions raised. As it happens there were people from your group in attendance, so all they had to do was submit questions as the rest of us did(not that I agree with that part of the format) You say none of your questions were asked. As all subjects bar Wycombe were broached, I would suggest that whatever remaining points weren't touched on must have been pretty uninspiring. I wonder, could you put the questions you wanted to ask on here and let us all know what they were? Its a dictatorship not a group :-)
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Post by Henbury Gas on Jul 27, 2014 20:02:06 GMT
Why do the BRISA Group hold the meetings at the MEM and the Wellie group hold them at the Wellie ??
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2014 20:21:17 GMT
Because brisa want the bar takings to go to the club and as a symbol that they are not anti brfc.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Jul 27, 2014 20:23:58 GMT
i also wonder how many of the Wellie group where anti Wellie when TRASH got the Wellie pub on their side ??
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Post by philbemmygas on Jul 27, 2014 20:39:29 GMT
Because brisa want the bar takings to go to the club and as a symbol that they are not anti brfc. Considering I brought it up at the 2nd Wellie group meeting, could the idea have come from there?
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Post by Deleted on Jul 27, 2014 20:53:30 GMT
It was always thei intention but they delayed to give the wellie mob a go.
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