New Stadiums Shocking home atmosphere

You can't say all new stadiums are like that. Oxford's is because it's wide open in the corners and only has three sides. It seems like they built what they could afford at the time with an eye on completing it some time in the future. It's a very drab affair that looks like it was thrown up in all haste from the first blueprint without any consideration taken to the acoustics (or much else for that matter apart from the car park). Stoke is another design that looks like it wasn't given much thought. A wrap-around in one corner but wide open in the other three, letting in icy winds and rain (part of their defensive tactics perhaps). Many of the new grounds have great accoustics. I don't get the nostagia for old grounds. The only ones worth mentioning were designed by Archibald Leitch www.google.se/search?q=Archibald+Leitch+football+grounds+pics&client=opera&hs=DM5&biw=1920&bih=970&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi04vX227LKAhWJ73IKHeOOA2IQsAQIGg#tbm=isch&q=Archibald+Leitch+, most others looked like they were flung up by local builders after a handshake in a pub.

The atmosphere at Stoke is amongst the best in the country so it goes to show its people that create atmosphere more than ground design.

Ah.
Good old Cary Grant.

There are plans to complete the corners at Stoke, but why they haven't done so yet is beyond me. It will be fantastic once it's done and the atmosphere even better.

Love older grounds, been to the Kassam now and it's probably one of the more soulless grounds I've been too following Rovers. Don't get me wrong, the Mem is a dump but it's got something about it! I think younger fans like myself will genuinely miss it if/when we move on.

I think the 'new all-seater stadium' argument is a poor one from the clubs (not the OP I hasten to add).

Teams like Brighton manage it, and whilst Stoke isn't quite the same as the 'blueprint' all seaters, their atmosphere doesn't suffer.

and whats wrong with that?

Football grounds should be slung together by local builders after a handshake in a pub. Too many of these concrete monstrasities are built for the TV generation  who are used to watching from the comfort of their own homes. Real grounds would attract real supporters

During yesterday's match I had a guy behind me talking all the time about how wonderful the Premiership is. He was patronising about the standard of football he was watching and if it wasnt for the fact that I am very polite and mild mannered - i would have told him where to go

I am white collar, probably middle class by my profession but I totally agree.

It's not just AT the ground, where middle class dad stops you standing. He also doesn't like you swearing either. Even shouting loudly gets you branding you an "idiot".

He turns up whe you win but is far away in a relegation dogfight.

Away from the ground, the middle class are meddling as much as they can. Starting with promoting women's football well above the actual interest level (football can't be a male activity - hand wringing liberal women are aghast at an all male concept and speak about it frequently at their women only gyms and women's rights rallies. All must be included.

The concept of a Wayne Rooney type man making millions is like bile to them - a working class scouser who makes £300k a week on merit alone? What about doctors, nurses, teachers etc? I.e jobs mainly done by them. Educated folk, not oiks like Rooney.

Then it's non stop obsession with any kind of "ism" in the game - this WAS a working mans game littered with insult and abuse of all types, but it's the moral crusade of the middle class media to charge in on a White horse to save us from our wicked ways. Of course, we are saved through prosecution and public humiliation for disobeying imposed values by our betters.....

In addition, the police, as we all know, are far more aggressive to groups of white, working class male football supporters than they were in to rioters.

The hatred of the working class never went away, the baton is held by the liberal London based media. Utter contempt for the men who built and run this county.

What's being middle class got to do with it? Plenty of working class people are like that as well.