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Feb 21, 2016 18:41:37 GMT
Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2016 18:41:37 GMT
When can we expect the build to start. Anytime in the next few weeks is my guest so it will be ready for the 2017-18 season.
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Post by chippenhamgas on Feb 21, 2016 18:45:34 GMT
Building work will start after wael buys the land.
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Post by xplosivgas on Feb 21, 2016 18:52:29 GMT
Has the new owner categorically stated the UWE will definitely be built regardless of the appeal decision? I know he acknowledged a new stadium is a 'requirement', but that's not quite the same - or am I just being overly paranoid? When the appeal decision comes out, I guess everyone will be demanding such a definitive assurance if it goes sainsbury's way.
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Feb 21, 2016 18:52:47 GMT
Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2016 18:52:47 GMT
Why do we need to buy the land?
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Feb 21, 2016 18:54:41 GMT
Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2016 18:54:41 GMT
Was the question asked about if the appeal fail , will UWE still be built.
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Feb 21, 2016 19:00:28 GMT
Post by alqadigas on Feb 21, 2016 19:00:28 GMT
How long before a brick is laid?
(not a brick making love obvs)
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Feb 21, 2016 19:03:01 GMT
Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2016 19:03:01 GMT
Was the question asked about if the appeal fail , will UWE still be built. Yes it was asked and the result of the appeal has no bearing on the UWE being built was the answer.
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Post by curlywurly on Feb 21, 2016 19:09:23 GMT
Why do we need to buy the land? Freehold to the land would always be a better financial proposition, if you can afford it, but the point is that the new regime need to assess the deal in detail. It may be that they wish to add to the development, alter the terms of the plan, or look for an alternative. Friday nights interview with Steve Hamer was revealing where he talked about the possibility of partnerships in relation to the stadium. Rather than negotiating from a position of weakness, where we were looking to scrape together enough funds to get the stadium built, it seems as though more may be considered now. But I like the fact that the approach is sensible and proportionate. We'll have to wait a few more years to get a stadium like the Emirates. ?
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Post by Nortongashead on Feb 21, 2016 19:18:01 GMT
The UWE may not fit the new owners business model. They may decide to buy land and build elsewhere in the city. They seem non committal atm over a new ground although acknowledging an urgent need to provide one. As well as wealth the owners are connected to the real movers and shakers. Interesting times.
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Feb 21, 2016 19:25:11 GMT
Post by Antonio Fargas on Feb 21, 2016 19:25:11 GMT
Has the new owner categorically stated the UWE will definitely be built regardless of the appeal decision? I know he acknowledged a new stadium is a 'requirement', but that's not quite the same - or am I just being overly paranoid? When the appeal decision comes out, I guess everyone will be demanding such a definitive assurance if it goes sainsbury's way. He said something along the lines of the appeal decision having nothing to do with whether it's built or not, but it will only be built if it is the right deal. I think he means that the Sainsbury's appeal is about money, and he doesn't need that money to build, but the deal with UWE will be about who owns the land and who gets what from the incomes generated, and that is more important to Rovers' future and sustainability.
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Feb 21, 2016 19:28:47 GMT
Post by newmarketgas on Feb 21, 2016 19:28:47 GMT
Why do we need to buy the land? Freehold to the land would always be a better financial proposition, if you can afford it, but the point is that the new regime need to assess the deal in detail. It may be that they wish to add to the development, alter the terms of the plan, or look for an alternative. Friday nights interview with Steve Hamer was revealing where he talked about the possibility of partnerships in relation to the stadium. Rather than negotiating from a position of weakness, where we were looking to scrape together enough funds to get the stadium built, it seems as though more may be considered now. But I like the fact that the approach is sensible and proportionate. We'll have to wait a few more years to get a stadium like the Emirates. ? I thought from TITK that partnerships in the stadium were a bad idea ?
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Post by pilninggas on Feb 21, 2016 19:29:17 GMT
The UWE may not fit the new owners business model. They may decide to buy land and build elsewhere in the city. They seem non committal atm over a new ground although acknowledging an urgent need to provide one. As well as wealth the owners are connected to the real movers and shakers. Interesting times. I do hope they build on the UWE site (having acquired the freehold). I can't bear the thought of more years of investigations and feasibility studies, planning applications, false dawns, TRASH/ROSE style blocks and general process codshite. Steve Hamer said they are very keen on the Abbeywood location, and with a freehold the commercial opportunities would be much greater (full control/full receipts).
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Feb 21, 2016 19:35:43 GMT
Post by Topper Gas on Feb 21, 2016 19:35:43 GMT
The new owners will need to look at the bigger picture, is the present leasehold deal the correct one, can we develop the two strips of land set aside for an hotel & office block, is the stadium big enough, are the car parking transport links sufficient etc, etc, Assuming financing it is no longer an issue it would be nice to start this year finish in time for the start of the 2017 season, although I guess we can all wait an extra year? Some further discussions about this have already taken place on the last couple of pages of this thread gaschat.co.uk/thread/6055/pick-right-buyers?page=3&scrollTo=161182
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Feb 21, 2016 19:37:11 GMT
Post by Nortongashead on Feb 21, 2016 19:37:11 GMT
The UWE may not fit the new owners business model. They may decide to buy land and build elsewhere in the city. They seem non committal atm over a new ground although acknowledging an urgent need to provide one. As well as wealth the owners are connected to the real movers and shakers. Interesting times. I do hope they build on the UWE site (having acquired the freehold). I can't bear the thought of more years of investigations and feasibility studies, planning applications, false dawns, TRASH/ROSE style blocks and general process codshite. Steve Hamer said they are very keen on the Abbeywood location, and with a freehold the commercial opportunities would be much greater (full control/full receipts). I want the UWE built as well but the revenue streams have to work for the club.
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Feb 21, 2016 19:49:11 GMT
Post by Russgas on Feb 21, 2016 19:49:11 GMT
Assuming financing it is no longer an issue it would be nice to start this year finish in time for the start of the 2017 season, although I guess we can all wait an extra year. July 2017 is the cut off date.You would have to start work at the latest by feb 2017 because by july 2017 you would need at least 30% of the work completed to satisfy planning approval.
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Feb 21, 2016 19:49:20 GMT
Post by Finnish Gas on Feb 21, 2016 19:49:20 GMT
Do UWE sell freehold land? YES - Land East of Coldharbour Lane (LECHL) www1.uwe.ac.uk/aboutus/visionandmission/uwenewcampus/landeastofcoldharbourlane.aspxPerhaps it is time for Charlotte Leslie, MP to intervene and meet up with Professor Steve West, vice-chancellor at UWE Bristol. There are now tremendous opportunities for the UWE stadium scheme to make a major contribution to investment and growth in the Bristol Sub-region. It would be a great error for UWE to stall such growth on the principle of insisting that there is leasehold rather than freehold ownership of the UWE stadium.
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Feb 21, 2016 19:52:51 GMT
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Post by xplosivgas on Feb 21, 2016 19:52:51 GMT
Rightly it wrongly, if the new owners pass on the UWE site/deal for 'commercial' or 'business model' reasons, I will lose all faith in them instantly. Someone should give them a brief history of our stadium plight and point out that a better plot of land - with planning permission - than we have now in our grasp is fantasy.
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Feb 21, 2016 19:58:26 GMT
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Post by chippenhamgas on Feb 21, 2016 19:58:26 GMT
Rightly it wrongly, if the new owners pass on the UWE site/deal for 'commercial' or 'business model' reasons, I will lose all faith in them instantly. Someone should give them a brief history of our stadium plight and point out that a better plot of land - with planning permission - than we have now in our grasp is fantasy. How do you know they haven't already identified or are in negotiations to buy alternative sites?
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Post by long john silver on Feb 21, 2016 20:00:26 GMT
Freehold to the land would always be a better financial proposition, if you can afford it, but the point is that the new regime need to assess the deal in detail. It may be that they wish to add to the development, alter the terms of the plan, or look for an alternative. Friday nights interview with Steve Hamer was revealing where he talked about the possibility of partnerships in relation to the stadium. Rather than negotiating from a position of weakness, where we were looking to scrape together enough funds to get the stadium built, it seems as though more may be considered now. But I like the fact that the approach is sensible and proportionate. We'll have to wait a few more years to get a stadium like the Emirates. ? I thought from TITK that partnerships in the stadium were a bad idea ? i think when he spoke about a partneship regarding the new stadium he was referring to UWE
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Feb 21, 2016 20:02:23 GMT
Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2016 20:02:23 GMT
Rightly it wrongly, if the new owners pass on the UWE site/deal for 'commercial' or 'business model' reasons, I will lose all faith in them instantly. Someone should give them a brief history of our stadium plight and point out that a better plot of land - with planning permission - than we have now in our grasp is fantasy. Crikey, give em a minute to settle in first. Both owner and chairman have stated that they like the UWE site for various reasons. In my opinion the reason they are in talks or whatever is because they want to own the land, which makes sense. We'll see though, its all speculation at the moment.
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