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Post by gasincider on Feb 28, 2016 11:34:59 GMT
Those who are blaming yesterday on MT need a reality check, and I speak as one who doesn't rate the guy.
What happened yesterday could only be blamed on two people. DC, and Liam Lawrence.
We seem to have lost all attacking intent especially away from home since the turn of the year, and our resident tinkerman has to accept full responsibility for that. It didn't help losing Sinclair, and we will always miss him. But how on gods earth we keep playing Lawrence is beyond me and my intelligence level to understand. Whenever he starts a game, we are immediately playing 10 versus 11.
It seems to me that others get dropped for one poor game but this guy has played poorly in every game he has appeared in, but cannot be dropped. We were wide open at the back yesterday, and a good side would have destroyed us. Parkes should have been in there. McChrystal looked a shadow of his former self. Aimless booting of the ball was once again the order of the day, and as usual the midfield were playing almost behind the back line. Bodin scored last week, so was dropped.
There is no logic to what is happening from project to project. Or is that game to game.
Now DC says there will be no big splurge in the loan window. Why not? If el presidente says we can do some meaningful recruitment then go for it. Don't let's keep kidding ourselves that our current crop can take us up. Even if they could, DC would probably drop everyone any good to keep playing Lawrence.
Am I also the only one who thinks DC is developing an arrogance when talking to the media? Respect at all times DC. Like you used to show. Don't go down the Cotterill route. Get back to how we started the season before we blow this one apart.
It has to be playoffs at least, and the best start would be to send Lawrence back where he came from, and allow the team to attack the opposition even in the first half. DC must know that he will be closely monitored by our new owners, and if he shows any weakness, then they either bring in a director of football, or a new manager. Hopefully, DC will learn before it's too late, as I would love him to take us up again.
We looked punchless again yesterday, and when crosses came into the box no one could get on the end of them. So what do we do? We keep the tallest strongest guy in the squad on the bench until a few minutes from the end , namely Fallon. You brought him here DC. For god sake give him a game or two and see how it goes. Gaffney is not, and never will be a target man.
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Post by gaffers on Feb 28, 2016 12:30:56 GMT
Those who are blaming yesterday on MT need a reality check, and I speak as one who doesn't rate the guy. What happened yesterday could only be blamed on two people. DC, and Liam Lawrence. We seem to have lost all attacking intent especially away from home since the turn of the year, and our resident tinkerman has to accept full responsibility for that. It didn't help losing Sinclair, and we will always miss him. But how on gods earth we keep playing Lawrence is beyond me and my intelligence level to understand. Whenever he starts a game, we are immediately playing 10 versus 11. It seems to me that others get dropped for one poor game but this guy has played poorly in every game he has appeared in, but cannot be dropped. We were wide open at the back yesterday, and a good side would have destroyed us. Parkes should have been in there. McChrystal looked a shadow of his former self. Aimless booting of the ball was once again the order of the day, and as usual the midfield were playing almost behind the back line. Bodin scored last week, so was dropped. There is no logic to what is happening from project to project. Or is that game to game. Now DC says there will be no big splurge in the loan window. Why not? If el presidente says we can do some meaningful recruitment then go for it. Don't let's keep kidding ourselves that our current crop can take us up. Even if they could, DC would probably drop everyone any good to keep playing Lawrence. Am I also the only one who thinks DC is developing an arrogance when talking to the media? Respect at all times DC. Like you used to show. Don't go down the Cotterill route. Get back to how we started the season before we blow this one apart. It has to be playoffs at least, and the best start would be to send Lawrence back where he came from, and allow the team to attack the opposition even in the first half. DC must know that he will be closely monitored by our new owners, and if he shows any weakness, then they either bring in a director of football, or a new manager. Hopefully, DC will learn before it's too late, as I would love him to take us up again. We looked punchless again yesterday, and when crosses came into the box no one could get on the end of them. So what do we do? We keep the tallest strongest guy in the squad on the bench until a few minutes from the end , namely Fallon. You brought him here DC. For god sake give him a game or two and see how it goes. Gaffney is not, and never will be a target man. I agree with this post...Lawrence has changed how we play as he has no game changing ability apart from the worst for us..Sinclair is our holding midfielder that has the ability to change the game now and then...he hasn't earnt his place and bodin and Ollie Clarke has...we've lost our attacking attitude and when we do have to back pedal and I'm just watching either lines and Lawrence jogging back??? Gaffney still has to prove himself in the air in front of goal....Lawrence on the bench and give bodin and Clarke more time to show their hunger |
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Post by Rod1883 on Feb 28, 2016 12:37:38 GMT
Sounds like McC was rusty, but how much of his or any defenders just booting it is down to having no midfield? Back to the Lawrence question again. He (LL) must be dropped for Tuesday.
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Post by daniel300380 on Feb 28, 2016 13:13:54 GMT
Those who are blaming yesterday on MT need a reality check, and I speak as one who doesn't rate the guy. What happened yesterday could only be blamed on two people. DC, and Liam Lawrence. We seem to have lost all attacking intent especially away from home since the turn of the year, and our resident tinkerman has to accept full responsibility for that. It didn't help losing Sinclair, and we will always miss him. But how on gods earth we keep playing Lawrence is beyond me and my intelligence level to understand. Whenever he starts a game, we are immediately playing 10 versus 11. It seems to me that others get dropped for one poor game but this guy has played poorly in every game he has appeared in, but cannot be dropped. We were wide open at the back yesterday, and a good side would have destroyed us. Parkes should have been in there. McChrystal looked a shadow of his former self. Aimless booting of the ball was once again the order of the day, and as usual the midfield were playing almost behind the back line. Bodin scored last week, so was dropped. There is no logic to what is happening from project to project. Or is that game to game. Now DC says there will be no big splurge in the loan window. Why not? If el presidente says we can do some meaningful recruitment then go for it. Don't let's keep kidding ourselves that our current crop can take us up. Even if they could, DC would probably drop everyone any good to keep playing Lawrence. Am I also the only one who thinks DC is developing an arrogance when talking to the media? Respect at all times DC. Like you used to show. Don't go down the Cotterill route. Get back to how we started the season before we blow this one apart. It has to be playoffs at least, and the best start would be to send Lawrence back where he came from, and allow the team to attack the opposition even in the first half. DC must know that he will be closely monitored by our new owners, and if he shows any weakness, then they either bring in a director of football, or a new manager. Hopefully, DC will learn before it's too late, as I would love him to take us up again. We looked punchless again yesterday, and when crosses came into the box no one could get on the end of them. So what do we do? We keep the tallest strongest guy in the squad on the bench until a few minutes from the end , namely Fallon. You brought him here DC. For god sake give him a game or two and see how it goes. Gaffney is not, and never will be a target man. Can see why Lawrence has started upto now. He has had success at this level regularly, but was short of match practice. So he needed a run of games, to get up to speed, however, he has now had a run of games, so it looks like his legs have just gone and that he was not the same player as he once was. The same thing applies to Easter when he came, sometimes signing older experienced players do not work out, however, the squad needs the experience but they should not be starting if they are not up to it. All managers make mistakes, even United fans used to moan about changes and signings under sir Alex. I can see why he was signed and why he was given a run of games. Now is the time to drop him though and to bring him on late in games, if needed. It takes time to put a squad together and we need some new additions, however, I agree with Dc we shouldn't make loads of changes. A few players can make a big difference. |
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Post by WeAreTheGas on Feb 28, 2016 13:49:16 GMT
Fully agree.
He HAS to be dropped for Tuesday. If he starts again then I'll be beginning to think that there's a clause in Lawrence's contract stating that he has to start when fit...
He's just offering very, very little. I can understand bringing him in as a squad player to add experience, and on a short-term contract it made sense. But to insist on starting him game after game when he's playin so poorly is baffling to me.
Lines is far more effective and threatening than him as our attacking CM in a 3-5-2, and playing on the left in a 4-4-2 in a Monkhouse-style role is disrupting the balance of the side IMO. We were doing just fine without playing a slow winger on the left to play Brown in before Lawrence arrived, so not sure why DC now seems to want to play this way whenever we line up 4-4-2?
Pace hurts teams, and that's what we need upfront and out wide. Gaffney-Easter up top with Lawrence on one of the wings is turgid and painful to watch.
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 28, 2016 14:07:34 GMT
Problem for DC is left wing and striker are is problem areas, alternative to LL is Montano and I can't recall one decent away game he's had when started(?), likewise upfront, without Harrison then Easter's the only alternative to the struggling MT.
As I said on the other thread I'd start with Montano & Bodin on the wings on Tuesday, recall Taylor, and if I was DC tell them it's last chance saloon for either or they'll be replaced.
As far as DC telling the press he won't be splashing the cash on loan players surely that's more sensible than saying he has loads of cash to spend? The next month/6 games looks crucial to me as they all look winnable, on paper at least.
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Post by Nortongashead on Feb 28, 2016 14:18:46 GMT
A good post. DC is losing games by not playing his best team and trying to accommodate Liam Lawrence. At this stage of the season its about winning ugly and not over complicating team selection. He is young and does make mistakes, but also makes good calls as well. I just feel he has lost his way a little atm which is to be expected given he is managing at his highest level. His interviews are typical of his personality which is to come out fighting when things get tough. Things can turn quickly back around again with a couple of wins, lets hope he can get us back on track.
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Post by Dirt Dogg on Feb 28, 2016 14:22:38 GMT
Problem for DC is left wing and striker are is problem areas Proven areas and we loaned Gosling and Harrison out. Know one but DC to blame for our sh*t form lately I'm afraid! |
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Post by islandgas on Feb 28, 2016 14:43:22 GMT
DC is making some very big mistakes and the team look awful. If things dont improve quickly he will be out the door. I've noticed a certain arrogance from him recently that doesn't sit well with me. He has to be professional with everyone at all times. Judging from Wael's press conferences I'd imagine that politeness and good mnners are important to him. I think DC will do well to bear that in mind.
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Post by mariobalotelli on Feb 28, 2016 14:57:35 GMT
The media ask some stupid questions though.
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Post by syg on Feb 28, 2016 15:03:48 GMT
I doubt the club has sent DC on a communications course. Some simple changes, like eye contact and not saying "to be honest with u", would make a big difference
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Post by chippenhamgas on Feb 28, 2016 15:08:08 GMT
DC is making some very big mistakes and the team look awful. If things dont improve quickly he will be out the door. I've noticed a certain arrogance from him recently that doesn't sit well with me. He has to be professional with everyone at all times. Judging from Wael's press conferences I'd imagine that politeness and good mnners are important to him. I think DC will do well to bear that in mind. I think what we are seeing is dc beginning to sow the seeds of his own downfall, if we knew taylor was leaving why did we let ellis go out on loan? Also Shrewsbury fans will tell you that lawrence is an extremely disruptive influence, you'd have thought he would have learnt that with the o'toole situation. The pressure is massively on him now and i'm not sure he can cope with it. |
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Post by Langford Gas on Feb 28, 2016 15:13:52 GMT
Problem for DC is left wing and striker are is problem areas, alternative to LL is Montano and I can't recall one decent away game he's had when started(?), likewise upfront, without Harrison then Easter's the only alternative to the struggling MT. As I said on the other thread I'd start with Montano & Bodin on the wings on Tuesday, recall Taylor, and if I was DC tell them it's last chance saloon for either or they'll be replaced. As far as DC telling the press he won't be splashing the cash on loan players surely that's more sensible than saying he has loads of cash to spend? The next month/6 games looks crucial to me as they all look winnable, on paper at least. I think there is another option to Harrison/Easter/Taylor, I think Gaffney does everything MT does but much better and he is more clinical when finishing, I would try Fallon alongside Gaffney like a good old smash and grab partnership. |
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Post by bluegas on Feb 28, 2016 15:23:16 GMT
Agree with most of what's on this thread. Sadly, if I've learnt anything about managers after 45 years it's that they're obstinate & will dig their heels in. Thought DC was different but seems not. Bet LL starts Tuesday & only comes off before the end if injured or red-carded. And I bet DC blames the others for not being able to accommodate LL. Hope I'm totally wrong but fear not.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2016 15:24:33 GMT
And if Lawtence plays a blinder on Tuesday night and inspires a Rovers win,then what will the theory be? I'm not overly impressed with his performances but when a whole side fails to perform something tells me it is not down to one man out of eleven!
Now if someone suggested a couple of players are playing up in the dressing room I would take more notice.
Don't forget, if we were given that nailed on penalty and didn't let that late goal in, we would not be having any of this as we would have won!!
And people say the City lot are fickle! We have come a long way in a short time,especially with the takeover, but that's still not good enough for some.
The kangaroo court is adjourned and the gallows are ready!
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Post by Big Jock on Feb 28, 2016 15:28:41 GMT
DC wen we signed LL:
“I know his character and what he’s about on the football pitch. He’s a winner, and I love winners.”
TBH a' think most of yous ar desperate fur a scapegoat wether it be Taylor, Lawrence or DC. Fact is wees struggling lately but wees bin ere befor.
We win as a team and lose as a team. The blame shud be shared coz if yous honest THEY IS ALL UNDERPERFORMING!!
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Feb 28, 2016 15:36:33 GMT
And if Lawtence plays a blinder on Tuesday night and inspires a Rovers win,then what will the theory be? I'm not overly impressed with his performances but when a whole side fails to perform something tells me it is not down to one man out of eleven! Now if someone suggested a couple of players are playing up in the dressing room I would take more notice. Don't forget, if we were given that nailed on penalty and didn't let that late goal in, we would not be having any of this as we would have won!! And people say the City lot are fickle! We have come a long way in a short time,especially with the takeover, but that's still not good enough for some. The kangaroo court is adjourned and the gallows are ready! I agree tbh, whilst Lawrence has far from impressed me, he is not the only one to have played poorly lately. He is an easy target, McChrystal was our worst player yesterday IMO. Terrible distribution and should have been sent off. |
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Post by bluegas on Feb 28, 2016 15:40:57 GMT
Let me enlarge on my comment - I remember a full-back called Wild Smith being brought in by Don't Megson because they'd been teammates at Sheffield Weds. He may have been a damn good player previously but did nothing for us. Just disrupted the team & became embarrassing. I seem to remember some exchange like "there's the ball" " I don't *ing want it". Mouriniho is a much more recent example - just became totally detached from reality ( though he probably always was).
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Post by Deleted on Feb 28, 2016 15:51:15 GMT
DC wen we signed LL: “I know his character and what he’s about on the football pitch. He’s a winner, and I love winners.” TBH a' think most of yous ar desperate fur a scapegoat wether it be Taylor, Lawrence or DC. Fact is wees struggling lately but wees bin ere befor. We win as a team and lose as a team. The blame shud be shared coz if yous honest THEY IS ALL UNDERPERFORMING!! Spot on my Scottish mate. Last season was exactly the same. The problem with certain people is that they say 6/7 or 8 players have played badly yet only the 'scapegoat' is slaughtered and Darrel Clarke!! The old saying ' can't see further than their noses' is quite apt. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Feb 28, 2016 16:50:45 GMT
And if Lawtence plays a blinder on Tuesday night and inspires a Rovers win,then what will the theory be? I'm not overly impressed with his performances but when a whole side fails to perform something tells me it is not down to one man out of eleven! Now if someone suggested a couple of players are playing up in the dressing room I would take more notice. Don't forget, if we were given that nailed on penalty and didn't let that late goal in, we would not be having any of this as we would have won!! And people say the City lot are fickle! We have come a long way in a short time,especially with the takeover, but that's still not good enough for some. The kangaroo court is adjourned and the gallows are ready! I agree tbh, whilst Lawrence has far from impressed me, he is not the only one to have played poorly lately. He is an easy target, McChrystal was our worst player yesterday IMO. Terrible distribution and should have been sent off. DC's problem was Parkes had a shocker at Pompey and then foolishly gave away a cheap penalty last week, we also have no idea what he's up to in training etc, perhaps DC felt dropping him for McChrystal was the only option to give him another wake up call? McChrystal didn't get sent off and decent cost us the goal so DC's decision was hardly a disaster? |
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