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Post by garystash on Mar 2, 2016 17:00:16 GMT
I actually can't believe what is going on - these people appear proper professionals.
We got the guy that organised the Wembley Stadium build FFS - I must be dreaming or something, this just can't be happening - surely?
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Mar 2, 2016 17:02:59 GMT
I actually can't believe what is going on - these people appear proper professionals. We got the guy that organised the Wembley Stadium build FFS - I must be dreaming or something, this just can't be happening - surely? Didn't Wembley end up massively over budget? Hence the reason that FA Cup Semi finals are played there too. |
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Post by garystash on Mar 2, 2016 17:07:16 GMT
Yeah - he's learnt from that! (I hope)
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Post by lulworthgas on Mar 2, 2016 17:43:56 GMT
I actually can't believe what is going on - these people appear proper professionals. We got the guy that organised the Wembley Stadium build FFS - I must be dreaming or something, this just can't be happening - surely? Didn't Wembley end up massively over budget? Hence the reason that FA Cup Semi finals are played there too. Maybe it would have been a lot worse if he wasn't there. On a serious note, who do you want in charge of the build. The new accountant and the Wembley guy, or the old accountant and cowlins ex boss! |
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Post by 2nd May 1990 on Mar 2, 2016 17:54:18 GMT
A lot of money being spent on these guys' wages. We'd better hope they don't cock it up. On the surface it does look like the 'if Carlsberg did takeovers...' takeover, but why do I keep having the phrase 'if something looks too good to be true, that's because it is' going through my head?
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Post by aghast on Mar 2, 2016 18:05:22 GMT
Apparently they resigned a couple of weeks ago. Not all of them....  Are you referring to the man with the grand title but no real job? |
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Post by justin blue on Mar 2, 2016 18:06:07 GMT
It all sounds great, but I'll believe it when I'm sat in it.
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Post by aghast on Mar 2, 2016 18:10:03 GMT
A lot of money being spent on these guys' wages. We'd better hope they don't main sail it up. On the surface it does look like the 'if Carlsberg did takeovers...' takeover, but why do I keep having the phrase 'if something looks too good to be true, that's because it is' going through my head? I thought the same about these people being expensive, but there's no point investing in the playing side if the organisation behind it is Sunday pub league standard. We'll never progress beyond an occasional promotion and inevitable relegation unless the club is run by people who know what they're doing. |
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Post by lulworthgas on Mar 2, 2016 18:21:20 GMT
A lot of money being spent on these guys' wages. We'd better hope they don't main sail it up. On the surface it does look like the 'if Carlsberg did takeovers...' takeover, but why do I keep having the phrase 'if something looks too good to be true, that's because it is' going through my head? I thought the same about these people being expensive, but there's no point investing in the playing side if the organisation behind it is Sunday pub league standard. We'll never progress beyond an occasional promotion and inevitable relegation unless the club is run by people who know what they're doing. I am now convinced that we are not going to be a Notts county or Salisbury city. These people would not accept jobs or even have jobs created at great expense if wael had no intention of building. The fact it's unconditional of the court case and they are looking at ways to improve the use and potential income from a new stadium. We've had more information on the stadium in the last 10 days than the last 2 years under the last lot. I assume the confidentiality agreement isn't in force anymore? If there ever was one. Exciting times ahead. I'm loving the fact that I am convinced my boy will be able to watch rovers and so will his kids. 10 days ago I wasn't so sure. Must grip some teds as they are desperate for us to be gone so they could monopolise Bristol. Lol! |
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Post by pucklegas on Mar 2, 2016 19:17:06 GMT
I wonder what the quickest build time could be, is it conceivable that we could be in there at the start of the 2017-2018 season? Wael ain't messing around, had these guys lined up before he bought the club, they all seem to have excellent CV S, can't believe this is happening to us!
Boom boom boom everyone sing Wael, Wael!
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Post by ipswichrover on Mar 2, 2016 19:33:55 GMT
I wonder what the quickest build time could be, is it conceivable that we could be in there at the start of the 2017-2018 season? Wael ain't messing around, had these guys lined up before he bought the club, they all seem to have excellent CV S, can't believe this is happening to us! Boom boom boom everyone sing Wael, Wael! The build time was stated to be 62 weeks in an old article I found, which would require a start by May, although in his interview, the ex Wembley guy stresses the importance of planning. My guess would be that given nothing is agreed with UWE that we know of, that there might be some changes to the original plans and that the new owners have talked about the importance of assessing what is already in place, a start in under 3 months from now seems a bit unlikely. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 2, 2016 21:19:26 GMT
I wonder what the quickest build time could be, is it conceivable that we could be in there at the start of the 2017-2018 season? Wael ain't messing around, had these guys lined up before he bought the club, they all seem to have excellent CV S, can't believe this is happening to us! Boom boom boom everyone sing Wael, Wael! The build time was stated to be 62 weeks in an old article I found, which would require a start by May, although in his interview, the ex Wembley guy stresses the importance of planning. My guess would be that given nothing is agreed with UWE that we know of, that there might be some changes to the original plans and that the new owners have talked about the importance of assessing what is already in place, a start in under 3 months from now seems a bit unlikely. That was NH's estimation, hopefully, with his construction back ground it was a reasonable estimation but could it be reduced dramatically if Wael threw more money at the build? Surely working longer hours onsite, pp permitting, could lead to a quicker build? Although if we build a bigger stadium it could take longer to build than the present plans? I could be wrong but you sense somebody like Mike Cunney wouldn't want to spend too long on this project?? |
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Mar 2, 2016 21:52:03 GMT
The build time was stated to be 62 weeks in an old article I found, which would require a start by May, although in his interview, the ex Wembley guy stresses the importance of planning. My guess would be that given nothing is agreed with UWE that we know of, that there might be some changes to the original plans and that the new owners have talked about the importance of assessing what is already in place, a start in under 3 months from now seems a bit unlikely. That was NH's estimation, hopefully, with his construction back ground it was a reasonable estimation but could it be reduced dramatically if Wael threw more money at the build? Surely working longer hours onsite, pp permitting, could lead to a quicker build? Although if we build a bigger stadium it could take longer to build than the present plans? I could be wrong but you sense somebody like Mike Cunney wouldn't want to spend too long on this project?? I got the impression from what he was saying that he will not be rushed. He already said that the way forward is to keep the planning stage as long as possible. |
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Post by justin blue on Mar 2, 2016 21:55:26 GMT
It all sounds great, but I'll believe it when I'm sat in it. Changed my mind after a visit to the OS and listening to the interviews this is happening, The future has just exeeded my imagination. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 2, 2016 22:17:06 GMT
It all sounds great, but I'll believe it when I'm sat in it. Changed my mind after a visit to the OS and listening to the interviews this is happening, The future has just exeeded my imagination. I'll second that although not sure what Lee Atkins was implying near to the end of his interview when he said he was investigating how to finance the UWE, as I assumed the Al-Qadi's had that side of the project covered.? Did Mike Cunnah really answer "I was the FA" to one question about Wembley? LOL |
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Post by youmadethatup on Mar 2, 2016 22:39:59 GMT
Glad to see that lame phrase "state-of-the-art" has been dropped in favour of "world class" ....that's a high target ! So I look forward to seeing the revised plans.
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Post by chippenhamgas on Mar 2, 2016 22:40:24 GMT
It's happening, the sheeds are uploading mock uwe images on otib, even they've accepted it! I love the fact they are still trawling the internet trying to find evidence that wael is just a market stall trader!
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Post by gasincider on Mar 2, 2016 22:48:02 GMT
Far be it for me to p*ss on anyone's chips, but don't go getting ahead of yourselves with regard to an imminent stadium.
Wael was in the bar last night and I bumped into him. As usual he was extremely courteous and happy to chat. So I asked him if a stadium was on the horizon. His answer worried me. He said that negotiations had indeed taken place earlier in the day with UWE, and something came up which he viewed as extremely worrying.
He wouldn't say what, and I didn't ask, but I mentioned stories I had heard about UWE upping the cost of the land, and seemingly wanting more and more of the income streams from the stadium. He didn't confirm any of it, but more importantly he didn't downplay it either. He seemed to suggest that he was at last made aware of something that he had no previous knowledge of and was therefore holding fire on the next stage of the development until whatever it was had been resolved.
I felt that what was happening was that UWE are trying to squeeze us until the pips squeak, but I also felt he will not proceed unless the club can get an equitable share of the revenue streams. This has to be the right course, as the club has to have the ability into the future to make itself self sustaining. He said that he could no more build a stadium than I could, and he had now put in place a team that could do so as long as negotiations proceeded in an acceptable manner.
He is determined to build a stadium, but quite rightly, he will not do it at any cost. He was however, positive about being able to resolve whatever the problems were, as he felt common sense had to prevail, ( my words not his)
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Post by justin blue on Mar 2, 2016 22:53:41 GMT
Changed my mind after a visit to the OS and listening to the interviews this is happening, The future has just exeeded my imagination. I'll second that although not sure what Lee Atkins was implying near to the end of his interview when he said he was investigating how to finance the UWE, as I assumed the Al-Qadi's had that side of the project covered.? Did Mike Cunnah really answer " I was the FA" to one question about Wembley? LOL He really did and in a matter of fact way like that's how it was. I just got the impression that these guys want to rebuild the club properly from top to bottom. |
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Post by chippenhamgas on Mar 2, 2016 23:26:02 GMT
Far be it for me to p*ss on anyone's chips, but don't go getting ahead of yourselves with regard to an imminent stadium. Wael was in the bar last night and I bumped into him. As usual he was extremely courteous and happy to chat. So I asked him if a stadium was on the horizon. His answer worried me. He said that negotiations had indeed taken place earlier in the day with UWE, and something came up which he viewed as extremely worrying. He wouldn't say what, and I didn't ask, but I mentioned stories I had heard about UWE upping the cost of the land, and seemingly wanting more and more of the income streams from the stadium. He didn't confirm any of it, but more importantly he didn't downplay it either. He seemed to suggest that he was at last made aware of something that he had no previous knowledge of and was therefore holding fire on the next stage of the development until whatever it was had been resolved. I felt that what was happening was that UWE are trying to squeeze us until the pips squeak, but I also felt he will not proceed unless the club can get an equitable share of the revenue streams. This has to be the right course, as the club has to have the ability into the future to make itself self sustaining. He said that he could no more build a stadium than I could, and he had now put in place a team that could do so as long as negotiations proceeded in an acceptable manner. He is determined to build a stadium, but quite rightly, he will not do it at any cost. He was however, positive about being able to resolve whatever the problems were, as he felt common sense had to prevail, ( my words not his) I hope he realises how difficult it is to build anything in this city, even the arena has now been held up! We will never find another piece of land as good as this with the necessary transport links, and with pp, ready to go. Back to to the drawing board could mean ten years, by which time the new owners may lose interest. For the club to progress this has to happen asap. |
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