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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2016 18:40:34 GMT
As mentioned before on here, I was born and raised in London and came to Bristol about nine years ago. My best friend at school (left school in 1990) lived in Haywards Heath and travelled to London every day to our school in west London. Most weekends were would either watch my team Chelsea or his Brighton - we went all over the country aged 14 onwards. In 1987 we travelled to Bristol on British Rail to watch Brighton play City (3-1 City). From that day I remember being able to see over the stand and seeing a lot of green land. There was a bit of fighting after and I remember thinking City fans were a bunch of scummers. A fortnight ago my mate asked me to go watch Brighton again at Trashton (29 years after our first visit) - he'd acquired tickets through work but in the City end. At first I resisted - rather have my head boiled - but hadn't seen him in yonks and thought I take a look at the competition. My big concern was clapping politely if City scored - I wasn't going to! Fortunately Brighton won 4-0 so I didn't have to, we did laugh when Brighton scored their fourth. Anyway, back to the point; the stadium. It's going to be big when finished but they won't fill it. It's going be disjointed - one of the stands doesn't fit right and you get those corners where the wind gets in. The atmosphere was awful, nothing but moaning throughout. The view was poor too, all I could see was the cross bar so spent the whole match standing up - which was greeted with verbals. The City singers were behind the goal besides the away fans and their sang four times. Brighton fans sang "shall we sing a song for you" about ten times. I liked the concourses with large photos of ex-players and the kiosks were fast and had beer (though didn't see anyone selling programmes). The location is difficult and oddly placed - parking was a mare. This leads me to the UWE or something similar. With a bowl you block out the wind and retain the singing. It will be ideally placed to mill about outside and hopefully have decent concourses. Stoke City hold five-a-side games for kids in the concourses before games (child members at Stoke have a full day programme pre-match including lunch; legendary) / Reading have discos after games in one of their concourses (I've been to a London Irish game and after they had a band and bar that went on to 10pm.) I grew up watching Chelsea (as did our new chairman) and stood in the shed and then when Roman took over sat in the stands and saw the atmosphere change ('tis about getting singers grouped together). However, all away games were beamed back to the bridge and would sell out. The stadium tour was popular and a money maker. I worked in Fulham and had my lunch at the Chelsea burger bar. The club megastore was great and had all the trophies in it. It had become a day out - everything for a fan is catered for. BRFC could become like that and I'm sure our Chairman wants this for us. UWE would become my new local where I pop in for a beer during the week, watch the away game on a Tuesday night with thousands of Gasheads or just potter around the rovers megastore buying stuff I don't need but my children might. We are the decent club in Bristol. The future is bright, the future is blue and white quartered. UTG!
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Post by BishopstonBRFC on Mar 2, 2016 18:53:35 GMT
Had an unfortunate visit to Trashton with the missus as she's from an egg chasing family. Have to say I agree with what you said about how disjointed the stadium actually looks. There's no continuity between stands and entrances from the concourse to seating areas are all over the place making it all look a bit clapped together.
Them there's the ridiculous stand which is replacing the Williams. It is a monstrosity and looks so out of place. I'm guessing that they had to do it to actually increase the capacity as the rest couldn't really be expanded. If they're going to become the sporting institute equivalent to Barcelona that SL says he wants then surely they will need another new ground as there's no more room to expand? Also £45m seems a hell of a lot of money for 5500 extra seats.
Lastly, I disagree re the concourse under the Dolman. As someone who works in the building trade it really looked like an attempt at polishing a turd and looks a bit cheap to be honest.
Give me (hopefully) the UWE any day!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 2, 2016 18:55:13 GMT
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Post by sircolbytit on Mar 3, 2016 13:26:13 GMT
Had an unfortunate visit to Trashton with the missus as she's from an egg chasing family. Have to say I agree with what you said about how disjointed the stadium actually looks. There's no continuity between stands and entrances from the concourse to seating areas are all over the place making it all look a bit clapped together. Them there's the ridiculous stand which is replacing the Williams. It is a monstrosity and looks so out of place. I'm guessing that they had to do it to actually increase the capacity as the rest couldn't really be expanded. If they're going to become the sporting institute equivalent to Barcelona that SL says he wants then surely they will need another new ground as there's no more room to expand? Also £45m seems a hell of a lot of money for 5500 extra seats. Lastly, I disagree re the concourse under the Dolman. As someone who works in the building trade it really looked like an attempt at polishing a turd and looks a bit cheap to be honest. Give me (hopefully) the UWE any day! Hello blue neighbours
I like the disjointed look, much prefer that to a generic bowl, which is why I'm very pleased we didn't proceed with Ashton Vale.
Obviously the new Williams isn't finished yet, I'm sure it won't look like a "monstrosity" when finished. My only concern is how the atmosphere will suffer if we end up in league one again once it is finished. Nothing worse than half filled stadiums.
Given the choice, would you rather have the Mem completely redeveloped with four brand new stands, or a new bowl at UWE?
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Post by scoobydoogas on Mar 3, 2016 13:27:51 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2016 13:31:11 GMT
As mentioned before on here, I was born and raised in London and came to Bristol about nine years ago. My best friend at school (left school in 1990) lived in Haywards Heath and travelled to London every day to our school in west London. Most weekends were would either watch my team Chelsea or his Brighton - we went all over the country aged 14 onwards. In 1987 we travelled to Bristol on British Rail to watch Brighton play City (3-1 City). From that day I remember being able to see over the stand and seeing a lot of green land. There was a bit of fighting after and I remember thinking City fans were a bunch of scummers. A fortnight ago my mate asked me to go watch Brighton again at Trashton (29 years after our first visit) - he'd acquired tickets through work but in the City end. At first I resisted - rather have my head boiled - but hadn't seen him in yonks and thought I take a look at the competition. My big concern was clapping politely if City scored - I wasn't going to! Fortunately Brighton won 4-0 so I didn't have to, we did laugh when Brighton scored their fourth. Anyway, back to the point; the stadium. It's going to be big when finished but they won't fill it. It's going be disjointed - one of the stands doesn't fit right and you get those corners where the wind gets in. The atmosphere was awful, nothing but moaning throughout. The view was poor too, all I could see was the cross bar so spent the whole match standing up - which was greeted with verbals. The City singers were behind the goal besides the away fans and their sang four times. Brighton fans sang "shall we sing a song for you" about ten times. I liked the concourses with large photos of ex-players and the kiosks were fast and had beer (though didn't see anyone selling programmes). The location is difficult and oddly placed - parking was a mare. This leads me to the UWE or something similar. With a bowl you block out the wind and retain the singing. It will be ideally placed to mill about outside and hopefully have decent concourses. Stoke City hold five-a-side games for kids in the concourses before games (child members at Stoke have a full day programme pre-match including lunch; legendary) / Reading have discos after games in one of their concourses (I've been to a London Irish game and after they had a band and bar that went on to 10pm.) I grew up watching Chelsea (as did our new chairman) and stood in the shed and then when Roman took over sat in the stands and saw the atmosphere change ('tis about getting singers grouped together). However, all away games were beamed back to the bridge and would sell out. The stadium tour was popular and a money maker. I worked in Fulham and had my lunch at the Chelsea burger bar. The club megastore was great and had all the trophies in it. It had become a day out - everything for a fan is catered for. BRFC could become like that and I'm sure our Chairman wants this for us. UWE would become my new local where I pop in for a beer during the week, watch the away game on a Tuesday night with thousands of Gasheads or just potter around the rovers megastore buying stuff I don't need but my children might. We are the decent club in Bristol. The future is bright, the future is blue and white quartered. UTG!  |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Mar 3, 2016 13:32:27 GMT
Had an unfortunate visit to Trashton with the missus as she's from an egg chasing family. Have to say I agree with what you said about how disjointed the stadium actually looks. There's no continuity between stands and entrances from the concourse to seating areas are all over the place making it all look a bit clapped together. Them there's the ridiculous stand which is replacing the Williams. It is a monstrosity and looks so out of place. I'm guessing that they had to do it to actually increase the capacity as the rest couldn't really be expanded. If they're going to become the sporting institute equivalent to Barcelona that SL says he wants then surely they will need another new ground as there's no more room to expand? Also £45m seems a hell of a lot of money for 5500 extra seats. Lastly, I disagree re the concourse under the Dolman. As someone who works in the building trade it really looked like an attempt at polishing a turd and looks a bit cheap to be honest. Give me (hopefully) the UWE any day! Hello blue neighbours
I like the disjointed look, much prefer that to a generic bowl, which is why I'm very pleased we didn't proceed with Ashton Vale.
Obviously the new Williams isn't finished yet, I'm sure it won't look like a "monstrosity" when finished. My only concern is how the atmosphere will suffer if we end up in league one again once it is finished. Nothing worse than half filled stadiums.
Given the choice, would you rather have the Mem completely redeveloped with four brand new stands, or a new bowl at UWE?
The Mem is a shitehole and needs to go. The UWE or any other ground has to be an improvement. I haven't looked at AG because it doesn't interest me but there is something nice about 4 separate stands but I'm certain an atmosphere can be generated in any shape of ground if you have the right fans in it. AG has had a reported problem with atmosphere for a long time. I'm not sure if that's anything to do with its design. |
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Mar 3, 2016 13:33:53 GMT
Given the choice, would you rather have the Mem completely redeveloped with four brand new stands, or a new bowl at UWE?
Problem with the Mem (among a number of other problems), to get a decent stadium out of it, we'd have to move the pitch a bit further than you had to move yours. |
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Mar 3, 2016 13:34:33 GMT
Given the choice, would you rather have the Mem completely redeveloped with four brand new stands, or a new bowl at UWE?
Problem with the Mem (among a number of other problems), to get a decent stadium out of it, we'd have to move the pitch a bit further than you had to move yours. Yeah, about 5 miles. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 3, 2016 13:35:49 GMT
Hello blue neighbours
I like the disjointed look, much prefer that to a generic bowl, which is why I'm very pleased we didn't proceed with Ashton Vale.
Obviously the new Williams isn't finished yet, I'm sure it won't look like a "monstrosity" when finished. My only concern is how the atmosphere will suffer if we end up in league one again once it is finished. Nothing worse than half filled stadiums.
Given the choice, would you rather have the Mem completely redeveloped with four brand new stands, or a new bowl at UWE?
The Mem is a shitehole and needs to go. The UWE or any other ground has to be an improvement. I haven't looked at AG because it doesn't interest me but there is something nice about 4 separate stands but I'm certain an atmosphere can be generated in any shape of ground if you have the right fans in it. AG has had a reported problem with atmosphere for a long time. I'm not sure if that's anything to do with its design. Speak to any sh!thead and they will tell you the lack of atmosphere is down to the acoustics of the stands, the only stand that had any atmosphere was the east end because it was so low(nothing to do with the fact it housed the away fans...) Also nothing to do with the fact the Sh1!heads don't make any atmosphere themselves mind... |
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Post by lulworthgas on Mar 3, 2016 13:37:50 GMT
Had an unfortunate visit to Trashton with the missus as she's from an egg chasing family. Have to say I agree with what you said about how disjointed the stadium actually looks. There's no continuity between stands and entrances from the concourse to seating areas are all over the place making it all look a bit clapped together. Them there's the ridiculous stand which is replacing the Williams. It is a monstrosity and looks so out of place. I'm guessing that they had to do it to actually increase the capacity as the rest couldn't really be expanded. If they're going to become the sporting institute equivalent to Barcelona that SL says he wants then surely they will need another new ground as there's no more room to expand? Also £45m seems a hell of a lot of money for 5500 extra seats. Lastly, I disagree re the concourse under the Dolman. As someone who works in the building trade it really looked like an attempt at polishing a turd and looks a bit cheap to be honest. Give me (hopefully) the UWE any day! Hello blue neighbours
I like the disjointed look, much prefer that to a generic bowl, which is why I'm very pleased we didn't proceed with Ashton Vale.
Obviously the new Williams isn't finished yet, I'm sure it won't look like a "monstrosity" when finished. My only concern is how the atmosphere will suffer if we end up in league one again once it is finished. Nothing worse than half filled stadiums.
Given the choice, would you rather have the Mem completely redeveloped with four brand new stands, or a new bowl at UWE?
Anything that has a roof over the stands to keep me dry in the winter. You lot go on about our poor home attendances but not sure many of you have actually tried standing on a terrace in the mem on a wet November night. You'd quickly realise how shockingly bad it is. I'm sure whatever we build will follow the national trend on new build stadiums and see an increase in our attendances. I for one will buy season tickets for me and 2 kids if they had somewhere decent to watch football. Me, I endure, my kids, deserve better. |
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Post by sircolbytit on Mar 3, 2016 13:43:46 GMT
Hello blue neighbours
I like the disjointed look, much prefer that to a generic bowl, which is why I'm very pleased we didn't proceed with Ashton Vale.
Obviously the new Williams isn't finished yet, I'm sure it won't look like a "monstrosity" when finished. My only concern is how the atmosphere will suffer if we end up in league one again once it is finished. Nothing worse than half filled stadiums.
Given the choice, would you rather have the Mem completely redeveloped with four brand new stands, or a new bowl at UWE?
The Mem is a shitehole and needs to go. The UWE or any other ground has to be an improvement. I haven't looked at AG because it doesn't interest me but there is something nice about 4 separate stands but I'm certain an atmosphere can be generated in any shape of ground if you have the right fans in it. AG has had a reported problem with atmosphere for a long time. I'm not sure if that's anything to do with its design. I think the mixture of all seater stadiums and the changing demographic of fans has combined to adversely affect the atmosphere at a lot of clubs.
I really feel sorry for younger fans that have never experienced footy on a packed terrace in the 70/80's. Absolutely incomparable to today's experience. You're right, the atmosphere at AG hasn't been good for a while. The last time I can remember a really exceptional atmosphere was our play off games against Palace a few years back.
Hopefully after the redevelopment is finished the singers will once again congregate in the same area. We do have a number of fans that make an effort to bring the atmosphere back, and Crystal Palace are a very good example of what can be achieved.
Thanks for not banning me after my first post. I managed to last a few years on the old Rovers forum, and even ended up making a few cyber fwends 
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Mar 3, 2016 13:55:53 GMT
The Mem is a shitehole and needs to go. The UWE or any other ground has to be an improvement. I haven't looked at AG because it doesn't interest me but there is something nice about 4 separate stands but I'm certain an atmosphere can be generated in any shape of ground if you have the right fans in it. AG has had a reported problem with atmosphere for a long time. I'm not sure if that's anything to do with its design. I think the mixture of all seater stadiums and the changing demographic of fans has combined to adversely affect the atmosphere at a lot of clubs.
I really feel sorry for younger fans that have never experienced footy on a packed terrace in the 70/80's. Absolutely incomparable to today's experience. You're right, the atmosphere at AG hasn't been good for a while. The last time I can remember a really exceptional atmosphere was our play off games against Palace a few years back.
Hopefully after the redevelopment is finished the singers will once again congregate in the same area. We do have a number of fans that make an effort to bring the atmosphere back, and Crystal Palace are a very good example of what can be achieved.
Thanks for not banning me after my first post. I managed to last a few years on the old Rovers forum, and even ended up making a few cyber fwends
Football has changed a lot since the 70s and 80s Kids won't know those days so won't miss it like the older fans do. Before long all grounds will be full of middle age people who have only known seats and the more "modern" atmosphere of today. |
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Post by wiaww on Mar 3, 2016 14:13:55 GMT
As mentioned before on here, I was born and raised in London and came to Bristol about nine years ago. My best friend at school (left school in 1990) lived in Haywards Heath and travelled to London every day to our school in west London. Most weekends were would either watch my team Chelsea or his Brighton - we went all over the country aged 14 onwards. In 1987 we travelled to Bristol on British Rail to watch Brighton play City (3-1 City). From that day I remember being able to see over the stand and seeing a lot of green land. There was a bit of fighting after and I remember thinking City fans were a bunch of scummers. A fortnight ago my mate asked me to go watch Brighton again at Trashton (29 years after our first visit) - he'd acquired tickets through work but in the City end. At first I resisted - rather have my head boiled - but hadn't seen him in yonks and thought I take a look at the competition. My big concern was clapping politely if City scored - I wasn't going to! Fortunately Brighton won 4-0 so I didn't have to, we did laugh when Brighton scored their fourth. Anyway, back to the point; the stadium. It's going to be big when finished but they won't fill it. It's going be disjointed - one of the stands doesn't fit right and you get those corners where the wind gets in. The atmosphere was awful, nothing but moaning throughout. The view was poor too, all I could see was the cross bar so spent the whole match standing up - which was greeted with verbals. The City singers were behind the goal besides the away fans and their sang four times. Brighton fans sang "shall we sing a song for you" about ten times. I liked the concourses with large photos of ex-players and the kiosks were fast and had beer (though didn't see anyone selling programmes). The location is difficult and oddly placed - parking was a mare. This leads me to the UWE or something similar. With a bowl you block out the wind and retain the singing. It will be ideally placed to mill about outside and hopefully have decent concourses. Stoke City hold five-a-side games for kids in the concourses before games (child members at Stoke have a full day programme pre-match including lunch; legendary) / Reading have discos after games in one of their concourses (I've been to a London Irish game and after they had a band and bar that went on to 10pm.) I grew up watching Chelsea (as did our new chairman) and stood in the shed and then when Roman took over sat in the stands and saw the atmosphere change ('tis about getting singers grouped together). However, all away games were beamed back to the bridge and would sell out. The stadium tour was popular and a money maker. I worked in Fulham and had my lunch at the Chelsea burger bar. The club megastore was great and had all the trophies in it. It had become a day out - everything for a fan is catered for. BRFC could become like that and I'm sure our Chairman wants this for us. UWE would become my new local where I pop in for a beer during the week, watch the away game on a Tuesday night with thousands of Gasheads or just potter around the rovers megastore buying stuff I don't need but my children might. We are the decent club in Bristol. The future is bright, the future is blue and white quartered. UTG! TL;DR Just kidding, good post. I'll definitely miss the Mem and its "character" but I think the UWE is absolutely the way forward. No doubt in 10 years time I'll look back at our cabbage patch with rose-tinted glasses and bemoan our soulless bowl though... |
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Post by roverstillidie on Mar 3, 2016 14:14:23 GMT
Just going off on a bit of a tangent here, but whilst we are on the subject of terracing/80's etc, there's something that has bugged me for years.
I remember going to a derby game 'over there' (was a bit watered tbh) in the late 80's, poss early 90's which I think we Won. We were crammed in like sardines in the away end and there was a minutes silence before the game, I think for a City player who died in a car crash.
The minutes silence was being perfectly observed by all, when one of that lot shouted 'Gas B'stards' from the Dolman Stand....obviously this was met by a reaction from our fans and I remember we were then condemned for so called disrespecting the minutes silence....can anyone remember this if so what was the date?
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Post by islaplanagas on Mar 3, 2016 14:26:32 GMT
I love 'old' grounds but time has moved on and we need to as well. Best ground (I think) for atmosphere was Twerton, small ground, always well over half full and the backs to the wall, low expectations of the fans.
I do agree with Sir Colby about the 'changing demographic' of fans. Good to see him back, he always posted well on the old forum.
Clever name as well, it is actually an anagram of 'sh1thead'....................or something similar.
IPG
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Post by mehewmagic on Mar 3, 2016 14:46:33 GMT
TBF
1 - What would our atmosphere be if we were losing 4-0 and still pretty low in the lge?
2 - I imagine their stadium will be good once finished. And a lot better than before.
3 - I'll give it all bertie big bollocks when the UWE is actually built. Until then I think i'll try to keep my gob shut.
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Post by sircolbytit on Mar 3, 2016 15:07:23 GMT
I love 'old' grounds but time has moved on and we need to as well. Best ground (I think) for atmosphere was Twerton, small ground, always well over half full and the backs to the wall, low expectations of the fans. I do agree with Sir Colby about the 'changing demographic' of fans. Good to see him back, he always posted well on the old forum. Clever name as well, it is actually an anagram of 'sh1thead'....................or something similar. IPG Fair shout, it took OTIB 10 years to work that anagram out!
I never went to Twerton, but remember being packed into the away end at Eastville as a young 'un. Good times.
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Post by lulworthgas on Mar 3, 2016 15:11:59 GMT
TBF 1 - What would our atmosphere be if we were losing 4-0 and still pretty low in the lge? 2 - I imagine their stadium will be good once finished. And a lot better than before. 3 - I'll give it all bertie big bollocks when the UWE is actually built. Until then I think i'll try to keep my gob shut. We need to remember that what they have just knocked down is better than anything rovers have ever played in. One of the main reasons why i am looking forward to seeing what a gas crowd would be like in a purpose built 21st century stadium, protected from the elements, with good facilities in terms of bars, scoff houses and bogs. All of which we have had to put up with shockingly bad examples regardless of where we called home. |
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Post by Henbury Gas on Mar 3, 2016 15:48:14 GMT
A stadium is only as good as the supporters who use it, so once a sh*thole always a sh*thole is Bristol Sport (trashton gate) Arena
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