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Post by Severncider on Mar 4, 2016 6:57:04 GMT
I do not work for BRFC so have nothing to fear. But you seem to be making allegations that something untoward has taken place by the previous BoD before the sale, you can still be sued for liable regardless of whether your a club employee or not. I personally feel we should just move on and support the new BoD not keep trying to dig up dirt on the old BoD, after all without them we wouldn't have the new owners. If the new owners want to dish the dirt in the future then that's their prerogative. Not correct.
I will be asking questions at the AGM to ascertain if others have made money out of BRFC recently, nowhere have I said anything is untoward.
Are you happy that an ex Director appears to be making a profit of over £100k over a transaction involving his "beloved" team?
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Post by countygroundhotel on Mar 4, 2016 9:10:54 GMT
But you seem to be making allegations that something untoward has taken place by the previous BoD before the sale, you can still be sued for liable regardless of whether your a club employee or not. I personally feel we should just move on and support the new BoD not keep trying to dig up dirt on the old BoD, after all without them we wouldn't have the new owners. If the new owners want to dish the dirt in the future then that's their prerogative. Not correct.
I will be asking questions at the AGM to ascertain if others have made money out of BRFC recently, nowhere have I said anything is untoward.
Are you happy that an ex Director appears to be making a profit of over £100k over a transaction involving his "beloved" team?
You're changing your tune in your opening post you were saying it was £250k he was making. Which figure is it going to be next?
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Post by gashead1981 on Mar 4, 2016 11:13:56 GMT
But you seem to be making allegations that something untoward has taken place by the previous BoD before the sale, you can still be sued for liable regardless of whether your a club employee or not. I personally feel we should just move on and support the new BoD not keep trying to dig up dirt on the old BoD, after all without them we wouldn't have the new owners. If the new owners want to dish the dirt in the future then that's their prerogative. Not correct.
I will be asking questions at the AGM to ascertain if others have made money out of BRFC recently, nowhere have I said anything is untoward.
Are you happy that an ex Director appears to be making a profit of over £100k over a transaction involving his "beloved" team?
I feel I need to step in. Severn, I know Ed personally, very well in fact and have done for many years, and you are creating a bit of a slur and a storm in a teacup. I know exactly why this transaction took place and its not for any kind of unrighteous gain. Whilst it looks on face value like a profit is being made and using the club to make a healthy profit, I can assure you its not what you are insinuating. Perhaps you have evidence that something is underhand? If so, you may wish to present that so others on here can be well informed instead of taking your conjecture and opinion as a degree of fact. I will not say what I know, I will leave that to the club to do if they feel its necessary, it isn't my place. Whether you like Ed Ware or not, and I am not sure if you do know him personally, but he has been involved with Rovers for an awful long time and poured a lot of time, energy and financial resources into the club, which may have not been significant a contribution as Higgs, but a hell of a lot more than the average fan and quite frankly, he did so, because he had the money and he loves the club and through the years he has done as much as he possibly can. He is Rovers through and through and always has been. I know you have an axe to grind against a lot of the old gaurd and it maybe that this week Ed Ware is the latest beating pole. But I would be very careful as to what you post, his wife after all is a very good barrister and I would advise any claims you should make should be substantiated with evidence. That is all I will add to this thread.
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Post by curlywurly on Mar 4, 2016 11:33:39 GMT
Not correct.
I will be asking questions at the AGM to ascertain if others have made money out of BRFC recently, nowhere have I said anything is untoward.
Are you happy that an ex Director appears to be making a profit of over £100k over a transaction involving his "beloved" team?
I feel I need to step in. Severn, I know Ed personally, very well in fact and have done for many years, and you are creating a bit of a slur and a storm in a teacup. I know exactly why this transaction took place and its not for any kind of unrighteous gain. Whilst it looks on face value like a profit is being made and using the club to make a healthy profit, I can assure you its not what you are insinuating. Perhaps you have evidence that something is underhand? If so, you may wish to present that so others on here can be well informed instead of taking your conjecture and opinion as a degree of fact. I will not say what I know, I will leave that to the club to do if they feel its necessary, it isn't my place. Whether you like Ed Ware or not, and I am not sure if you do know him personally, but he has been involved with Rovers for an awful long time and poured a lot of time, energy and financial resources into the club, which may have not been significant a contribution as Higgs, but a hell of a lot more than the average fan and quite frankly, he did so, because he had the money and he loves the club and through the years he has done as much as he possibly can. He is Rovers through and through and always has been. I know you have an axe to grind against a lot of the old gaurd and it maybe that this week Ed Ware is the latest beating pole. But I would be very careful as to what you post, his wife after all is a very good barrister and I would advise any claims you should make should be substantiated with evidence. That is all I will add to this thread. I thought we were well beyond threats of legal action on the forum. Apparently not.
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Post by Severncider on Mar 4, 2016 11:42:55 GMT
Not correct.
I will be asking questions at the AGM to ascertain if others have made money out of BRFC recently, nowhere have I said anything is untoward.
Are you happy that an ex Director appears to be making a profit of over £100k over a transaction involving his "beloved" team?
I feel I need to step in. Severn, I know Ed personally, very well in fact and have done for many years, and you are creating a bit of a slur and a storm in a teacup. I know exactly why this transaction took place and its not for any kind of unrighteous gain. Whilst it looks on face value like a profit is being made and using the club to make a healthy profit, I can assure you its not what you are insinuating. Perhaps you have evidence that something is underhand? If so, you may wish to present that so others on here can be well informed instead of taking your conjecture and opinion as a degree of fact. I will not say what I know, I will leave that to the club to do if they feel its necessary, it isn't my place. Whether you like Ed Ware or not, and I am not sure if you do know him personally, but he has been involved with Rovers for an awful long time and poured a lot of time, energy and financial resources into the club, which may have not been significant a contribution as Higgs, but a hell of a lot more than the average fan and quite frankly, he did so, because he had the money and he loves the club and through the years he has done as much as he possibly can. He is Rovers through and through and always has been. I know you have an axe to grind against a lot of the old gaurd and it maybe that this week Ed Ware is the latest beating pole. But I would be very careful as to what you post, his wife after all is a very good barrister and I would advise any claims you should make should be substantiated with evidence. That is all I will add to this thread. I have NEVER said that there is anything underhand.
I have indicated that we are being asked to confirm that BRFC can pay Edward Ware £525k plus £125k when he paid £395k, according to Land Registry, plus stamp duty and legal fees, that is approx. £250k+ over what he appears to have paid.
There could well be a very good explanation for this difference, I'd just like to know. This is the reason why questions will be asked before voting on this resolution.
I cannot believe that anyone is suggesting that we cannot ask such a question.
I know Edward Ware and am well aware of his wife's occupation.
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 4, 2016 13:27:38 GMT
Pretty sure most of us are reading the following comments as you implying something underhand was taking place regarding "payments"?
"I have a few other questions to be answered which may uncover some more "payments" made to ex directors as the takeover was taking place."
If the payments made are all above board then why mention them in the first place?
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Post by roverstillidie on Mar 4, 2016 14:52:45 GMT
Heres a quick question...what the F##k has any of this got to do with anyone reading this forum?
Has anything illegal taken place? It doesn't look like it to me,mind your own fcking business and move on.
Why not focus on the events of the past couple of weeks and look to the future with a degree of optimism rather than mudslinging and attempts to discredit individuals.
UTG
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Mar 4, 2016 15:05:53 GMT
Heres a quick question...what the F##k has any of this got to do with anyone reading this forum? Has anything illegal taken place? It doesn't look like it to me,mind your own fcking business and move on. Why not focus on the events of the past couple of weeks and look to the future with a degree of optimism rather than mudslinging and attempts to discredit individuals. UTG It is our business. It's in the AGM of our club. It has as much to do with us as who DC picks at left back and whether that goal was offside. And this is a forum for discussing the club.
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Post by roverstillidie on Mar 4, 2016 15:14:19 GMT
Heres a quick question...what the F##k has any of this got to do with anyone reading this forum? Has anything illegal taken place? It doesn't look like it to me,mind your own fcking business and move on. Why not focus on the events of the past couple of weeks and look to the future with a degree of optimism rather than mudslinging and attempts to discredit individuals. UTG It is our business. It's in the AGM of our club. It has as much to do with us as who DC picks at left back and whether that goal was offside. And this is a forum for discussing the club. So lets discuss the left back and off sides and stop all the sh** stirring and discrediting of individuals
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Post by phillistine on Mar 4, 2016 15:19:22 GMT
I dont know the ins and outs of anything but i do know that the new owner seems to be a shrewd operator and he surrounds himself by people who know what they are doing. I feel it unlikely that he will be unprepared for the AGM and whilst it is almost inevitable that "certain matters will come out in the wash" - they do in every takeover that occurs- he is more than capable of dealing with them.
I would warn against getting too emotionally involved in something when you don't necessarily have all the facts as this can cause either loss of face or even a legal dispute which does no-one any good
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Mar 4, 2016 15:22:08 GMT
It is our business. It's in the AGM of our club. It has as much to do with us as who DC picks at left back and whether that goal was offside. And this is a forum for discussing the club. So lets discuss the left back and off sides and stop all the sh** stirring and discrediting of individuals
Ok, it was never offside.
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Post by Severncider on Mar 4, 2016 15:52:18 GMT
I dont know the ins and outs of anything but i do know that the new owner seems to be a shrewd operator and he surrounds himself by people who know what they are doing. I feel it unlikely that he will be unprepared for the AGM and whilst it is almost inevitable that "certain matters will come out in the wash" - they do in every takeover that occurs- he is more than capable of dealing with them. I would warn against getting too emotionally involved in something when you don't necessarily have all the facts as this can cause either loss of face or even a legal dispute which does no-one any good He has already been made aware of some of the questions that will be asked as it would be totally unfair to spring it on him at the AGM.
These are questions to do with the 2014/15 Accounts and nothing to do with any questions in the Q & A session.
I have never fallen out with any of the previous Directors. I have had some very good discussions with them at away games when having hospitality.
NH has 95% of the time been very honest in answering questions I have asked him, the other 5% usually involve matters that are sensitive or confidential.
The new owners are just as open when you ask them questions. I foresee a great future with them and they have the ability to move this club forward.
Having said that, if a difficult question needs to be asked of them in public or private, I will ask it.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2016 16:05:25 GMT
Was anybody else at Somerton Park when Micky Barrett hit an absolute screamer which was disallowed due to Paul Randall being stood offside? Nowadays that one would have been goal of the season.
As to the other stuff, the time to question the previous regime has passed so no point in flaming the embers.
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Post by Henbury Gas on Mar 4, 2016 16:08:54 GMT
Was anybody else at Somerton Park when Micky Barrett hit an absolute screamer which was disallowed due to Paul Randall being stood offside? Nowadays that one would have been goal of the season. As to the other stuff, the time to question the previous regime has passed so no point in flaming the embers. Remember it well RIP Micky
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 4, 2016 16:18:18 GMT
I dont know the ins and outs of anything but i do know that the new owner seems to be a shrewd operator and he surrounds himself by people who know what they are doing. I feel it unlikely that he will be unprepared for the AGM and whilst it is almost inevitable that "certain matters will come out in the wash" - they do in every takeover that occurs- he is more than capable of dealing with them. I would warn against getting too emotionally involved in something when you don't necessarily have all the facts as this can cause either loss of face or even a legal dispute which does no-one any good He has already been made aware of some of the questions that will be asked as it would be totally unfair to spring it on him at the AGM.
These are questions to do with the 2014/15 Accounts and nothing to do with any questions in the Q & A session.
I have never fallen out with any of the previous Directors. I have had some very good discussions with them at away games when having hospitality.
NH has 95% of the time been very honest in answering questions I have asked him, the other 5% usually involve matters that are sensitive or confidential.
The new owners are just as open when you ask them questions. I foresee a great future with them and they have the ability to move this club forward.
Having said that, if a difficult question needs to be asked of them in public or private, I will ask it.
No wonder NH became so defensive when after two weeks of virtually non stop good news we now have fans threatening to ask our new owners "difficult" questions in a couple of weeks time - I give up!
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Post by Deleted on Mar 4, 2016 16:29:24 GMT
He has already been made aware of some of the questions that will be asked as it would be totally unfair to spring it on him at the AGM.
These are questions to do with the 2014/15 Accounts and nothing to do with any questions in the Q & A session.
I have never fallen out with any of the previous Directors. I have had some very good discussions with them at away games when having hospitality.
NH has 95% of the time been very honest in answering questions I have asked him, the other 5% usually involve matters that are sensitive or confidential.
The new owners are just as open when you ask them questions. I foresee a great future with them and they have the ability to move this club forward.
Having said that, if a difficult question needs to be asked of them in public or private, I will ask it.
No wonder NH became so defensive when after two weeks of virtually non stop good news we now have fans threatening to ask our new owners "difficult" questions in a couple of weeks time - I give up! I don't think the questions will be difficult for the new owners as they have nothing to hide. I just don't see why somebody wants to dish the dirt now when the opportunity to change things has gone. As to the resolution, if the new owners aren't happy with it then they have 92% of the shareholding to reject it and somebody with 0.0000001% share holding won't sway them.
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Post by peterparker on Mar 4, 2016 16:41:39 GMT
Heres a quick question...what the F##k has any of this got to do with anyone reading this forum? Has anything illegal taken place? It doesn't look like it to me,mind your own fcking business and move on. Why not focus on the events of the past couple of weeks and look to the future with a degree of optimism rather than mudslinging and attempts to discredit individuals. UTG Perhaps because we are shareholders I am not saying anybody should be attacked, but we have a right and a duty to ask what is going on/or has happened at the club
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Post by roverstillidie on Mar 4, 2016 17:07:46 GMT
Fair enough. Didn't mean to cause any offence to anyone. UTG
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Post by mehewmagic on Mar 4, 2016 19:08:15 GMT
Fair enough. Didn't mean to cause any offence to anyone. UTG why write it then? Surely you must have had some inkling when you wrote it and press that 'reply' button you might be writing something extremely forceful and frankly well OTT.
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Post by roverstillidie on Mar 4, 2016 19:22:46 GMT
Fair enough. Didn't mean to cause any offence to anyone. UTG why write it then? Surely you must have had some inkling when you wrote it and press that 'reply' button you might be writing something extremely forceful and frankly well OTT. I'll tell you why I replied shall I..?! Because I'm sick of coming on here, in what should and could be potentially the most exciting phase in our Clubs History and reading negative posts by people on subjects like this, that have no impact on them as individuals whatsoever....Have you lost or are going to lose money on the sale of this property? Does it affect you as an individual? If the answer to either of these questions is yes, then I apologise.
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