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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2016 7:53:46 GMT
I was thinking about the game this morning, having a look at the table, stats etc. I went through the routine mental processes of thinking it would be great to get a win and bad to get beat etc etc.
Then realised that actually there is a bigger deal atm. This isn't a "What would you prefer" thread. It is a realisation that getting all narky about not being in the playoffs tonight or doing backflips if we win 0-3 are insignificant in light of the bigger picture right now.
I realised after reading Steveks thread about pace(relating to money for the squad) and he reactions after our defeat to Portsmouth, that our patience levels and ability to see past the ends of our noses could be drastically improved...especially since there are changes of epic proportions happening which hopefully will change the course of the club for the better in the long term.
Today's result or Lawrence's performance will have little impact on the grand plan.
This is alien to typical fans but I think we need to adopt the general mentality of the Brighton supporters during their time at the running track ground..They KNEW they had better times ahead, were confident that their ground was getting built eventually and were using that positivity to deal with the rubbish situation they were in.
I believe we have better times ahead and will adopt the long game mentality from now on because even what happens this season will bear little reflection on our status in 10 years time.
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Post by gregsy on Mar 5, 2016 8:01:14 GMT
it's true mate that we probably don't need to worry so much, but i'm sure you'd agree that it would be a sad day when we accepted below par perfomances, and bad managerial decisions just because 'we knew better times were ahead'....
i actually think it would be a very bad habbit to slip into....
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Mar 5, 2016 8:05:41 GMT
Love the optimism.
I think very few will take it on board until the footings of the new ground are being dug.
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Post by mjhgas on Mar 5, 2016 8:11:21 GMT
Don't forget that many fans have seen us play in the Championship (or old Div 2)!
They'll be happy when we return there!
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Mar 5, 2016 8:36:39 GMT
Not really sure why we need to police people's expectations or long-term/short-term views. Part of the thing with being a football fan is reacting to results/performances. Who wants to be told don't react like that because our long-term potential has changed, or don't criticise player X coz we now have grand plan Y. The takeover may have been a game-changer, but we're watching exactly the same game.
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Post by seanclevedongas on Mar 5, 2016 8:53:41 GMT
I was thinking about the game this morning, having a look at the table, stats etc. I went through the routine mental processes of thinking it would be great to get a win and bad to get beat etc etc. Then realised that actually there is a bigger deal atm. This isn't a "What would you prefer" thread. It is a realisation that getting all narky about not being in the playoffs tonight or doing backflips if we win 0-3 are insignificant in light of the bigger picture right now. I realised after reading Steveks thread about pace(relating to money for the squad) and he reactions after our defeat to Portsmouth, that our patience levels and ability to see past the ends of our noses could be drastically improved...especially since there are changes of epic proportions happening which hopefully will change the course of the club for the better in the long term. Today's result or Lawrence's performance will have little impact on the grand plan. This is alien to typical fans but I think we need to adopt the general mentality of the Brighton supporters during their time at the running track ground..They KNEW they had better times ahead, were confident that their ground was getting built eventually and were using that positivity to deal with the rubbish situation they were in. I believe we have better times ahead and will adopt the long game mentality from now on because even what happens this season will bear little reflection on our status in 10 years time. Amen |
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Post by stevek192 on Mar 5, 2016 9:00:54 GMT
Good post Gashead 79. Interesting views and I agree that I am looking at the smaller picture but one which could set up the greater future. I do feel however that it will be sad if we waste this opportunity due to failure to get in a couple of players and change the style we approach games slightly. Let's put it this way looking at the run in we will be lucky if we ever get a better run in as regards facing teams in the top 7 at the moment and this is an advantage that if taken could still see us finish in the top 3 but this will very much involve winning at places like Notts County.At least now we know that things off the pitch are moving and the lasting success could still be highly governed by what division we are in when the new stadium is built.
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Post by Antonio Fargas on Mar 5, 2016 9:16:42 GMT
Good post Gashead 79. Interesting views and I agree that I am looking at the smaller picture but one which could set up the greater future. I do feel however that it will be sad if we waste this opportunity due to failure to get in a couple of players and change the style we approach games slightly. Let's put it this way looking at the run in we will be lucky if we ever get a better run in as regards facing teams in the top 7 at the moment and this is an advantage that if taken could still see us finish in the top 3 but this will very much involve winning at places like Notts County.At least now we know that things off the pitch are moving and the lasting success could still be highly governed by what division we are in when the new stadium is built. You should probably not bother doing anymore match write-ups this season, coz we're getting a new scoreboard. Or something. |
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 5, 2016 10:28:16 GMT
Surely most football fans live for today and not tomorrow? If not I may as well go shopping with the misses this afternoon, forget about the game, and just check the score when I get chance over the weekend, as win or lose it's apparently irrelevant in the bigger picture?
Then again I could see today's game as vital, given from past experience of watching Rovers promotion challenges come around about once a decade, and if we blow this one now it might be years before we're in a similar position, although you hope that won't be the case.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2016 10:42:30 GMT
Strange OP.
If you can guarantee there will be better times ahead, I will happily write off this potential promotion season and relax more at the remaining games.
But you can't, so I probably won't.
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Post by socrates on Mar 5, 2016 10:44:04 GMT
I was thinking about the game this morning, having a look at the table, stats etc. I went through the routine mental processes of thinking it would be great to get a win and bad to get beat etc etc. Then realised that actually there is a bigger deal atm. This isn't a "What would you prefer" thread. It is a realisation that getting all narky about not being in the playoffs tonight or doing backflips if we win 0-3 are insignificant in light of the bigger picture right now. I realised after reading Steveks thread about pace(relating to money for the squad) and he reactions after our defeat to Portsmouth, that our patience levels and ability to see past the ends of our noses could be drastically improved...especially since there are changes of epic proportions happening which hopefully will change the course of the club for the better in the long term. Today's result or Lawrence's performance will have little impact on the grand plan. This is alien to typical fans but I think we need to adopt the general mentality of the Brighton supporters during their time at the running track ground..They KNEW they had better times ahead, were confident that their ground was getting built eventually and were using that positivity to deal with the rubbish situation they were in. I believe we have better times ahead and will adopt the long game mentality from now on because even what happens this season will bear little reflection on our status in 10 years time. Good post. A season is a marathon not a sprint. Our future is even longer ( until the take over I wasn't so sure) |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2016 10:46:36 GMT
An interesting thought process, are you turning into Edward de Bono?
Seriously though, it is important we keep do keep sight of the bigger picture and the greater goals but I also agree with Stevek's viewpoint about not missing a great opportunity to strengthen the squad and make that final push.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2016 13:01:56 GMT
Agree mostly with you G79 and after the Wycombe defeat I did have thoughts along the lines of well it doesn't matter really because we will go up next season anyway.Now,2 weeks on and the takeover news more embedded into the grey matter,my thoughts are now turning towards 'expectation'.There will be big pressure to go up next season no doubt,so the remainder of this season is now a 'free shot' if you like,without the expectation that we will go up on our shoulders.I would think it's worth the owners taking a small gamble by getting in a couple of good loan signings in now (pacy ones as Steve k suggests) without any danger to their long term vision,they may not see it that way of course and go with the don't upset the apple cart approach.
So long term and sustainable improvement in all aspects of the club = absolutely necessary.
Short term investment on the playing side = no brainer, small risk for a possible big reward,but may not happen.
A great future appears to be in our hands but managing fans expectations may be one of the owners more difficult tasks along a road that will inevitably see us hit bumps at some point.
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Post by Topper Gas on Mar 5, 2016 13:11:07 GMT
Agree mostly with you G79 and after the Wycombe defeat I did have thoughts along the lines of well it doesn't matter really because we will go up next season anyway.Now,2 weeks on and the takeover news more embedded into the grey matter,my thoughts are now turning towards 'expectation'.There will be big pressure to go up next season no doubt,so the remainder of this season is now a 'free shot' if you like,without the expectation that we will go up on our shoulders.I would think it's worth the owners taking a small gamble by getting in a couple of good loan signings in now (pacy ones as Steve k suggests) without any danger to their long term vision,they may not see it that way of course and go with the don't upset the apple cart approach. So long term and sustainable improvement in all aspects of the club = absolutely necessary. Short term investment on the playing side = no brainer, small risk for a possible big reward,but may not happen. A great future appears to be in our hands but managing fans expectations may be one of the owners more difficult tasks along a road that will inevitably see us hit bumps at some point. I can't believe any Rovers fans can be that arrogant? The new owners talk of evolution anyway so I can't see them throwing millions at the playing side of things just to try and buy promotion next season. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 5, 2016 13:21:56 GMT
Agree mostly with you G79 and after the Wycombe defeat I did have thoughts along the lines of well it doesn't matter really because we will go up next season anyway.Now,2 weeks on and the takeover news more embedded into the grey matter,my thoughts are now turning towards 'expectation'.There will be big pressure to go up next season no doubt,so the remainder of this season is now a 'free shot' if you like,without the expectation that we will go up on our shoulders.I would think it's worth the owners taking a small gamble by getting in a couple of good loan signings in now (pacy ones as Steve k suggests) without any danger to their long term vision,they may not see it that way of course and go with the don't upset the apple cart approach. So long term and sustainable improvement in all aspects of the club = absolutely necessary. Short term investment on the playing side = no brainer, small risk for a possible big reward,but may not happen. A great future appears to be in our hands but managing fans expectations may be one of the owners more difficult tasks along a road that will inevitably see us hit bumps at some point. I can't believe any Rovers fans can be that arrogant? The new owners talk of evolution anyway so I can't see them throwing millions at the playing side of things just to try and buy promotion next season. As I said,just early musings before the reality of the takeover had sunk in.Your the one who's saying about millions not me,there will have to be a better budget available though for next season no? |
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Post by youmadethatup on Mar 5, 2016 14:07:35 GMT
I was thinking about the game this morning, having a look at the table, stats etc. I went through the routine mental processes of thinking it would be great to get a win and bad to get beat etc etc. Then realised that actually there is a bigger deal atm. This isn't a "What would you prefer" thread. It is a realisation that getting all narky about not being in the playoffs tonight or doing backflips if we win 0-3 are insignificant in light of the bigger picture right now. I realised after reading Steveks thread about pace(relating to money for the squad) and he reactions after our defeat to Portsmouth, that our patience levels and ability to see past the ends of our noses could be drastically improved...especially since there are changes of epic proportions happening which hopefully will change the course of the club for the better in the long term. Today's result or Lawrence's performance will have little impact on the grand plan. This is alien to typical fans but I think we need to adopt the general mentality of the Brighton supporters during their time at the running track ground..They KNEW they had better times ahead, were confident that their ground was getting built eventually and were using that positivity to deal with the rubbish situation they were in. I believe we have better times ahead and will adopt the long game mentality from now on because even what happens this season will bear little reflection on our status in 10 years time. Good post. A season is a marathon not a sprint. Our future is even longer ( until the take over I wasn't so sure) If one was to consider the first season after the end of WW2 BRFC finished 14th in division three (south) . If the expectation was simply to finish one position higher each season and was achieved (for arguments sake) then the club would be a top end premier league club by now competing in Europe. All from the modest expectation of finishing one place higher. How much extra investment is needed to improve one position a season ? A multitude of factors mean this won't happen but as a long term model ....achievable ? |
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