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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2016 8:56:09 GMT
I read quite often how this issue is hotly debated in Bristol, and I have the solution.
Here in Germany, once you drive into a residential area, the speed limit is 30kph, which is as near as dammit, 20mph. There are very few signs stating this, no road markings, no costs, and it is very easy to enforce, so how is it done?
Simples, as you are driving along, any turning on the right has the right of way, therefore, when you approach any turning on the right you have to slow down in case a car comes out. For Bristol (or the UK) just change the right to the left, so any turning on your left would have right of way. You have to drive slower whenever you approach a turning on your left.
Simple, cost free, and effective. Just a small change in the rules of driving, and hey presto, speeds are instantly reduced in residential areas.
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Post by supergas on Mar 10, 2016 13:32:08 GMT
I read quite often how this issue is hotly debated in Bristol, and I have the solution. Here in Germany, once you drive into a residential area, the speed limit is 30kph, which is as near as dammit, 20mph. There are very few signs stating this, no road markings, no costs, and it is very easy to enforce, so how is it done? Simples, as you are driving along, any turning on the right has the right of way, therefore, when you approach any turning on the right you have to slow down in case a car comes out. For Bristol (or the UK) just change the right to the left, so any turning on your left would have right of way. You have to drive slower whenever you approach a turning on your left. Simple, cost free, and effective. Just a small change in the rules of driving, and hey presto, speeds are instantly reduced in residential areas. DO NOT give our lunatic Mayor any more ideas....please.... 20 mph zones, Resident parking zones, none of these were mentioned in his manifesto before he was elected so I can only assume the chaos he will impose if he gets back in in May... |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2016 13:38:44 GMT
20 mph zones are standard here in residential areas, and as I said, slow cars down by introducing that one simple rule.
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Post by supergas on Mar 10, 2016 13:51:01 GMT
20 mph zones are standard here in residential areas, and as I said, slow cars down by introducing that one simple rule. The problem is George Ferguson was elected and at no point before-hand did he ever mention 20mph zones. Once he was elected hundreds of thousands of pounds were spent on a policy that no-one voted for and isn't even enforced anywhere in the city.... ...overall I don't care what the speed limit is but he's a dictatorial Mayor with too many links to Green Party lunatics and an inability to i) improve the City overall and ii) actually get done the things he said he would before he was elected without squandering cash (as least £7m on the Green Capital City)...20mph isn't important. Who imposed it and how/why it was imposed is the actual issue.... |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2016 13:54:50 GMT
I agree, the bloke is a complete tosser. The red trousers thing is just plain stupid.
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Post by supergas on Mar 10, 2016 15:42:27 GMT
I agree, the bloke is a complete tosser. The red trousers thing is just plain stupid. The trousers are well down the 'stupid' list....  |
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Post by aghast on Mar 10, 2016 15:43:21 GMT
So disciplined German drivers confidently pull out of a side turning feeling safe in the knowledge that obedient disciplined German drivers on the main road will give way?
If they tried that here it would be like carmaggedon.
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Post by Deleted on Mar 10, 2016 17:32:25 GMT
So disciplined German drivers confidently pull out of a side turning feeling safe in the knowledge that obedient disciplined German drivers on the main road will give way? If they tried that here it would be like carmaggedon. No, you don't just pull out. Even with right of way you take it carefully, but the point is that the drivers HAVE to slow down. |
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Post by inee on Mar 10, 2016 18:30:16 GMT
So disciplined German drivers confidently pull out of a side turning feeling safe in the knowledge that obedient disciplined German drivers on the main road will give way? If they tried that here it would be like carmaggedon. They have to as even in germany Bmw indicators are only an accessory they don't work Beside the 20mph limit is a fooking joke, causes more damage to cars and the environment ,uses more petrol, but hey lets not worry about that it's irrelevant |
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Post by aghast on Mar 10, 2016 18:37:39 GMT
We won't have to worry about all this when we're tootling along at 15mph in our driverless electric Google cars.
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Post by pirateman on Mar 10, 2016 21:12:05 GMT
So disciplined German drivers confidently pull out of a side turning feeling safe in the knowledge that obedient disciplined German drivers on the main road will give way? If they tried that here it would be like carmaggedon. They have to as even in germany Bmw indicators are only an accessory they don't work Beside the 20mph limit is a fooking joke, causes more damage to cars and the environment ,uses more petrol, but hey lets not worry about that it's irrelevant My road is 20mph. Waste of money. It is a narrowish road with a lot of parking and most people drive at 20 ish anyway. Those who drive faster aint gonna stop. Anyone who looked at it and thought (okay unrealistic for politicians) would have seen that a one way street would be a better option.
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Post by Thatslife on Mar 10, 2016 23:00:39 GMT
There is now a report from Portsmouth I think, that shows that in the 20 mph zones the amount of crashes has gone up.
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Post by William Wilson on Mar 11, 2016 8:03:22 GMT
20 mph zones are standard here in residential areas, and as I said, slow cars down by introducing that one simple rule. The problem is George Ferguson was elected and at no point before-hand did he ever mention 20mph zones. Once he was elected hundreds of thousands of pounds were spent on a policy that no-one voted for and isn't even enforced anywhere in the city.... ...overall I don't care what the speed limit is but he's a dictatorial Mayor with too many links to Green Party lunatics and an inability to i) improve the City overall and ii) actually get done the things he said he would before he was elected without squandering cash (as least £7m on the Green Capital City)...20mph isn't important. Who imposed it and how/why it was imposed is the actual issue.... It is being enforced. A mate of mine was done for doing 26mph, down Ladies Mile. Also, as I was going into work last week, a police speed van was parked half way down Wellington Hill West, ( just before you get to the Beehive ). I bet they had rich pickings. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2016 8:34:37 GMT
The problem is George Ferguson was elected and at no point before-hand did he ever mention 20mph zones. Once he was elected hundreds of thousands of pounds were spent on a policy that no-one voted for and isn't even enforced anywhere in the city.... ...overall I don't care what the speed limit is but he's a dictatorial Mayor with too many links to Green Party lunatics and an inability to i) improve the City overall and ii) actually get done the things he said he would before he was elected without squandering cash (as least £7m on the Green Capital City)...20mph isn't important. Who imposed it and how/why it was imposed is the actual issue.... It is being enforced. A mate of mine was done for doing 26mph, down Ladies Mile. Also, as I was going into work last week, a police speed van was parked half way down Wellington Hill West, ( just before you get to the Beehive ). I bet they had rich pickings. Are you talking about the Ladies Mile on the Downs? If so, then it's common sense that has gone missing. The 20 mph limits should only apply to residential areas, or by places like schools etc. |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2016 12:05:42 GMT
The problem is George Ferguson was elected and at no point before-hand did he ever mention 20mph zones. Once he was elected hundreds of thousands of pounds were spent on a policy that no-one voted for and isn't even enforced anywhere in the city.... ...overall I don't care what the speed limit is but he's a dictatorial Mayor with too many links to Green Party lunatics and an inability to i) improve the City overall and ii) actually get done the things he said he would before he was elected without squandering cash (as least £7m on the Green Capital City)...20mph isn't important. Who imposed it and how/why it was imposed is the actual issue.... It is being enforced. A mate of mine was done for doing 26mph, down Ladies Mile. Also, as I was going into work last week, a police speed van was parked half way down Wellington Hill West, ( just before you get to the Beehive ). I bet they had rich pickings. And what was your mate doing at the ladies mile..? Just going for a walk in the bushes....  |
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Post by Deleted on Mar 11, 2016 12:29:03 GMT
It is being enforced. A mate of mine was done for doing 26mph, down Ladies Mile. Also, as I was going into work last week, a police speed van was parked half way down Wellington Hill West, ( just before you get to the Beehive ). I bet they had rich pickings. And what was your mate doing at the ladies mile..? Just going for a walk in the bushes.... It's the 'mate'....yeah, right. |
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