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Post by BishopstonBRFC on May 25, 2016 16:27:40 GMT
Agreed. The experience of Penney, McGhee and Ward worked wonders. The latter two certainly worked the oracle in their first season. It was the following seasons it went to pot,for them both. True. They seemed to be able to turn other people's teams around but when allowed to make their won signings it all fell apart.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on May 25, 2016 17:06:31 GMT
Agreed. The experience of Penney, McGhee and Ward worked wonders. The latter two certainly worked the oracle in their first season. It was the following seasons it went to pot,for them both. That's just the honeymoon period. Can't really judge them on half a season when they have come half way through.
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Post by beaver132 on May 25, 2016 17:23:49 GMT
Feeling really waterd off, so if this upsets... IF DC goes, I hope we all remember the loyalty of managers and players is transitory. It doesn't matter what they say, at this club they're off like the proverbial rat at a sniff of the barmaids apron. He's done exceptionally well here, he's riding on a crest of a wave, Leeds are a basket case, and IF he goes, it shows none of that matters one jot when the cash is flashed. Hope this is just my melancholy attitude after being spoken at by management behaving like evangelical missionaries and denying that the not only does the emperor have no clothes but they're the ones that took them off him.
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Post by Jon the Stripe on May 25, 2016 17:27:01 GMT
Experience worked out really well with John Ward..... I honestly disrepair sometimes! Holloway is a footballing dinosaur now so that is a no from me also. The answer is VERY obvious should the unthinkable happen... Stewart. Obviously. Why on earth would we want a new manager in now with new ideas when the current ideas are working so well?! Should DC decide that working for that clown is for him then we must look internally I believe. If it wasn't for John Ward we wouldn't be having this convo, he found us Darrell! ...... And the rest as they say is history. Praise the Ward.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2016 17:30:21 GMT
OK, I know I shouldn't do this but I will play: Gary Monk (for manager - based on a completely unfounded rumour I overheard someone start at the York game) Sandra Bullock (to replace the wife - Sorry Nobby she is mine!!!) Having said that, I wouldn't mind seeing Sandra Bullock managing the team either - she can multi-task, provided my supper is on the table at 5:30 every night. If we ever meet I'll give you such a Chinese Burn you won't stop wimpering for a week!
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Post by youmadethatup on May 25, 2016 17:34:16 GMT
Lee Johnson will be interested and I'm sure has a get out clause in his contract if a club with more potential comes along. Although why try to poach him now when he will probably be getting sacked come November.
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2016 17:38:00 GMT
Feeling really waterd off, so if this upsets... IF DC goes, I hope we all remember the loyalty of managers and players is transitory. It doesn't matter what they say, at this club they're off like the proverbial rat at a sniff of the barmaids apron. He's done exceptionally well here, he's riding on a crest of a wave, Leeds are a basket case, and IF he goes, it shows none of that matters one jot when the cash is flashed. Hope this is just my melancholy attitude after being spoken at by management behaving like evangelical missionaries and denying that the not only does the emperor have no clothes but they're the ones that took them off him. DC is an ambitious bloke. You'd think he'll see the situation at Leeds as a negative, but at the same time its a real opportunity for him to be a hero at that club which he may not have had if Leeds were a bit more stable - an opportunity for him to establish himself at the top of the game. That's the sort of thing he is aiming for, and it wouldn't surprise me if that drew him to the job. He is the sort of manager who sees the positives, rather than the risks. Do I hope he waits and goes to a club with more stability? Even better, do I hope he stays whilst we build the infrastructure we need and takes us to a stable position in the league above? Of course I do. Would I blame him for going to the biggest club outside of the top flight? Nope, he's done an amazing job and he owes us nothing.
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Post by seanclevedongas on May 25, 2016 17:50:08 GMT
I am a fan of Marcus and what he did as a player and what he does in the role he is in now but I just don't think he has the character or personality to be our Manager.
To follow Darrell will take a special kind of person. In the past when we have lost a successful manager we have always gone through a succession of disappointments
E.G. after Gerry F we had Dobson, Rofe and Big Mal , after PT we had Patterson, Penny, Campbell, Buckle, McGee etc. I don't want the same to happen again and us to end up back in league 2
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Post by Parrot on May 25, 2016 17:50:23 GMT
Feeling really waterd off, so if this upsets... IF DC goes, I hope we all remember the loyalty of managers and players is transitory. It doesn't matter what they say, at this club they're off like the proverbial rat at a sniff of the barmaids apron. He's done exceptionally well here, he's riding on a crest of a wave, Leeds are a basket case, and IF he goes, it shows none of that matters one jot when the cash is flashed. Hope this is just my melancholy attitude after being spoken at by management behaving like evangelical missionaries and denying that the not only does the emperor have no clothes but they're the ones that took them off him. DC is an ambitious bloke. You'd think he'll see the situation at Leeds as a negative, but at the same time its a real opportunity for him to be a hero at that club which he may not have had if Leeds were a bit more stable - an opportunity for him to establish himself at the top of the game. That's the sort of thing he is aiming for, and it wouldn't surprise me if that drew him to the job. He is the sort of manager who sees the positives, rather than the risks. Do I hope he waits and goes to a club with more stability? Even better, do I hope he stays whilst we build the infrastructure we need and takes us to a stable position in the league above? Of course I do. Would I blame him for going to the biggest club outside of the top flight? Nope, he's done an amazing job and he owes us nothing. Oiii stop posting sense or you will be banned
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Post by dinsdale on May 25, 2016 18:21:49 GMT
If DC leaves we need to focus on a decent coaching and recruitment team as opposed to just going for a big name.
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Post by dinsdale on May 25, 2016 18:23:57 GMT
Also wouldn't be signing off any more player contracts. Why lumber a new manager with players they haven't chosen. Lots of scope for a total overhaul for a proper go at league 1
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Post by Parrot on May 25, 2016 18:28:00 GMT
Also wouldn't be signing off any more player contracts. Why lumber a new manager with players they haven't chosen. Lots of scope for a total overhaul for a proper go at league 1 Might be a bit late for that as they've been offered deals ?
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Post by lincsblue on May 25, 2016 18:36:44 GMT
Not convinced Leeds are the biggest team outside of the top flight when you have the likes of Villa and Newcastle in the Championship
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2016 18:38:39 GMT
The latter two certainly worked the oracle in their first season. It was the following seasons it went to pot,for them both. That's just the honeymoon period. Can't really judge them on half a season when they have come half way through. I know,that's why I said it went to pot the following season. I realise what the 'new manager' bounce has on a team. Still, McGhee was a really good candidate.....on paper!
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on May 25, 2016 18:40:43 GMT
That's just the honeymoon period. Can't really judge them on half a season when they have come half way through. I know,that's why I said it went to pot the following season. I realise what the 'new manager' bounce has on a team. Still, McGhee was a really good candidate.....on paper! Tbh I was jever fully sold on McGhee and always felt he was just a big name. I wanted Richard Money at the time.
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Post by Big Jock on May 25, 2016 18:49:21 GMT
Didnae like MM fro th' start fat hare lipped thundercunt
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Post by Deleted on May 25, 2016 18:51:09 GMT
I know,that's why I said it went to pot the following season. I realise what the 'new manager' bounce has on a team. Still, McGhee was a really good candidate.....on paper! Tbh I was jever fully sold on McGhee and always felt he was just a big name. I wanted Richard Money at the time. Richard Money? One success at Walsall. He Never entered my thoughts tbh. McGhee on the other hand had the lower league success. Promotions with Reading, Brighton and Millwall. On paper an excellent appointment but that second season after those shambolic signings showed he was on the whiskey too often. It didn't pan out how I thought it would!
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Post by z1zou on May 25, 2016 19:08:53 GMT
Also wouldn't be signing off any more player contracts. Why lumber a new manager with players they haven't chosen. Lots of scope for a total overhaul for a proper go at league 1 You've also got to look at it from the other perspective. All the guys offered deals will be waiting to see how this develops before they decide.
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Post by dinsdale on May 25, 2016 19:09:22 GMT
Also wouldn't be signing off any more player contracts. Why lumber a new manager with players they haven't chosen. Lots of scope for a total overhaul for a proper go at league 1 Might be a bit late for that as they've been offered deals ? Still needs two signatures on them. No disrespect to last years squad but a new manager will have their own ideas. How confident would you be that last years squad could compete in league 1 without DC ?
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Post by dinsdale on May 25, 2016 19:10:06 GMT
Also wouldn't be signing off any more player contracts. Why lumber a new manager with players they haven't chosen. Lots of scope for a total overhaul for a proper go at league 1 You've also got to look at it from the other perspective. All the guys offered deals will be waiting to see how this develops before they decide. The likes of Taylor would, most of the others would jump at the chance of league 1
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