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Post by beaver132 on May 28, 2016 17:43:57 GMT
A salutary lesson with a profile of two of our opponents for the season ahead. Coventry city with their financial crisis centring around the access to matchday revenue at the Ricoh Arena and Sheffield United still being marooned in league one, despite being bankrolled by a Saudi. Billionaire and having a wage bill of 6 million last season. We need to get things right off the pitch with the UWE and ensure revenue streams are beneficial to the club, as well as realising that if you splash the cash it means little without a class manager and team spirit.
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Post by Topper Gas on May 28, 2016 17:57:51 GMT
Why's it a lesson for us, Coventry sold Highfield Rd and moved into a stadium owned by another company, our new stadium will always be owned by the Al-Qadi's?
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Post by long john silver on May 28, 2016 19:02:08 GMT
Why's it a lesson for us, Coventry sold Highfield Rd and moved into a stadium owned by another company, our new stadium will always be owned by the Al-Qadi's? it will be owned by BRFC, wael isnt putting a penny in, its being paid for by investors. |
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Post by beaver132 on May 28, 2016 20:51:32 GMT
Why's it a lesson for us, Coventry sold Highfield Rd and moved into a stadium owned by another company, our new stadium will always be owned by the Al-Qadi's? Because we seemed, before the takeover, to be sleepwalking into a similar situation with regards to match day revenue and not owning the freehold. I meant it to reflect the fact that if we take it a bit longer to get it right, or if we walk away and start again, it's better to get it right. No disrespect or anything to the eay it's going. Also that tons of cash doesn't always translate to success if it's not backed up by a talented manager. |
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Post by hargravegas on May 30, 2016 6:00:37 GMT
Match day revenue is key, and also was going to be quite an earner for UWE, so presumably that's the bit where negotiation is much more difficult now we want the club to have that.
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Post by warehamgas on May 30, 2016 7:59:31 GMT
I guess the Coventry example is a lesson to everyone that just because something is new and shiny it doesn't mean it's good for you. The conditions esp the freehold is key to it all and as many have said take time to get the conditions and preparation correct and it will be better in the long run. We can always learn from the mistakes of others esp in football type stuff.
UTG!
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Post by Deleted on May 30, 2016 9:38:53 GMT
Match day revenue is key, and also was going to be quite an earner for UWE, so presumably that's the bit where negotiation is much more difficult now we want the club to have that. Match day revenue is vital. Look at Germany. Dortmund get crowds of 80,000, yet cannot compete agaimst Bayern. In fact, Dortmund, despite beng the 'second' team in Germany are now just a feeder club for Bayern. Dortmund do not own their ground. Eintracht Frankfurt, with regular gates of 50,000 just managed to avoid relegation. They never splash the cash on players, because they don't have any. Eintracht do not own their ground. |
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Post by lpgas on May 31, 2016 13:06:54 GMT
I am glad the new ground is taking time, hopefully I will qualify for the OAP ticket when it is built
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Post by Topper Gas on May 31, 2016 15:08:39 GMT
Why's it a lesson for us, Coventry sold Highfield Rd and moved into a stadium owned by another company, our new stadium will always be owned by the Al-Qadi's? it will be owned by BRFC, wael isnt putting a penny in, its being paid for by investors. But who owns BRFC > BRFC(1883) > Dwane Sports who I assume are owned by Al-Qadi's? Not sure there is any evidence yet Wael/the Al-Qadi's are not putting a penny in, even if they are looking for investors. |
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Post by long john silver on May 31, 2016 15:15:40 GMT
it will be owned by BRFC, wael isnt putting a penny in, its being paid for by investors. But who owns BRFC > BRFC(1883) > Dwane Sports who I assume are owned by Al-Qadi's? Not sure there is any evidence yet Wael/the Al-Qadi's are not putting a penny in, even if they are looking for investors. to be fair they have made it pretty clear how the stadium is being funded and been very transparent about where they are with it. |
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Post by youmadethatup on May 31, 2016 16:54:59 GMT
But who owns BRFC > BRFC(1883) > Dwane Sports who I assume are owned by Al-Qadi's? Not sure there is any evidence yet Wael/the Al-Qadi's are not putting a penny in, even if they are looking for investors. to be fair they have made it pretty clear how the stadium is being funded and been very transparent about where they are with it. The stadium won't happen.....the finance world has laughed at the idea of providing capital and wael has only got a few quid in his bank account. This is the reason a bit of diy has happened at the mem recently. This is FACT .....on OTIB....... |
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Post by aghast on May 31, 2016 17:09:45 GMT
But who owns BRFC > BRFC(1883) > Dwane Sports who I assume are owned by Al-Qadi's? Not sure there is any evidence yet Wael/the Al-Qadi's are not putting a penny in, even if they are looking for investors. to be fair they have made it pretty clear how the stadium is being funded and been very transparent about where they are with it. Can you explain more, because I must have missed this? Genuine question. |
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Post by Antonio Fargas on May 31, 2016 17:11:53 GMT
to be fair they have made it pretty clear how the stadium is being funded and been very transparent about where they are with it. Can you explain more, because I must have missed this? Genuine question. Basically, they've dodged the question, and mumbled something about external investment, every time they've been asked. If I were us, and I am, I'd give them the benefit of the doubt on this, for the next few months. |
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Post by youmadethatup on May 31, 2016 17:22:30 GMT
to be fair they have made it pretty clear how the stadium is being funded and been very transparent about where they are with it. Can you explain more, because I must have missed this? Genuine question. For those who missed it.....during the 1970's and 80's Mr Al Qadi senior collected lots of stamps after buying petrol for the family car. Wael like all youngsters happily stuck the stamps in the little books for his dad , as the months passed the full books mounted up . The family opened the catalogue and browsed what they could trade in their stamps for, nothing caught their imagination. The tuppaware was tempting but no they would save for something better. Mr Al Qadi senior kept getting the stamps and thinking nothing more of it just stuck them in the books and slowly filled the double garage with them. Finally mrs Al Qadi senior had had enough, "those green shield stamp books are taking over dear , we either throw them away or get something from the catalogue" The family gathered and browsed the catalogue each with their own preferences for goods but it was of no use . However many plastic salad tongs they got it wasn't going to make a dent into the 40,000,000 books of stamps they had. Wael now a grown man and up with the times said "hey pop ,why don't I look on the green shield stamp website and see if they have any deluxe items".....a few clicks later and the whole family was smiling...we have found the perfect thing. We can buy a football stadium called uwe ...and the rest they say is history. |
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Post by oldgas on May 31, 2016 19:20:54 GMT
But who owns BRFC > BRFC(1883) > Dwane Sports who I assume are owned by Al-Qadi's? Not sure there is any evidence yet Wael/the Al-Qadi's are not putting a penny in, even if they are looking for investors. to be fair they have made it pretty clear how the stadium is being funded and been very transparent about where they are with it. Didn't Wael pay £10 to JTS on the first Saturday fir his FFS subs? |
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Post by long john silver on May 31, 2016 19:43:47 GMT
to be fair they have made it pretty clear how the stadium is being funded and been very transparent about where they are with it. Can you explain more, because I must have missed this? Genuine question. the deal with the UWE was dependant on sainsburys going through and was voided when it didnt. lawyers have had to write up a whole new contract with UWE, hence why everything is taking so long. Wael is funding the stadium through external investors rarther than paying out his own pocket, which kind of makes sense given he's a very successful investment banker. |
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Post by stuart1974 on Jun 1, 2016 9:07:48 GMT
I found these graphics on Wiki which shows the club dispositions, they haven't been updated yet do you will need to substitute Wigan, Burton, Barnsley, Doncaster, Blackpool and Crewe for Bolton in the north and ourselves, Charlton, MK Dons, Wimbledon, Oxford and Northampton for Colchester in the south. Just shows how 'northern' last season was in League 1, a bit wider spread in League 2. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_League_Twoen.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_League_OneI can't copy the map itself directly so if someone is able to, please do. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 1, 2016 9:27:48 GMT
I found these graphics on Wiki which shows the club dispositions, they haven't been updated yet do you will need to substitute Wigan, Burton, Barnsley, Doncaster, Blackpool and Crewe for Bolton in the north and ourselves, Charlton, MK Dons, Wimbledon, Oxford and Northampton for Colchester in the south. Just shows how 'northern' last season was in League 1, a bit wider spread in League 2. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_League_Twoen.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_League_OneI can't copy the map itself directly so if someone is able to, please do.   |
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Post by stuart1974 on Jun 1, 2016 9:41:11 GMT
Thanks Gaz, maybe I should get my 3 year old to help me next time.
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