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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2014 15:52:06 GMT
Thats because he is clueless. The same as he was last season. I will never accept he is manager of my club.He is the man who took us to hell It was ALL Johm Wards fault We were not in a relegation place when Ward stepped down.It was the useless Clarke that took as down.Much the same as Garry Thompson took us down that fateful season long ago.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 13, 2014 15:58:53 GMT
It was ALL Johm Wards fault We were not in a relegation place when Ward stepped down.It was the useless Clarke that took as down.Much the same as Garry Thompson took us down that fateful season long ago. Ok, it was Lennie Lawrence's fault
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Aug 17, 2014 15:08:11 GMT
Still give him a chance. Yesterday was the first worrying sign for me though.
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Post by RD on Aug 17, 2014 15:14:04 GMT
Still give him a chance. Yesterday was the first worrying sign for me though. Agreed. I'm starting to have my doubts now but still back him.
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Post by Hugo Admin on Aug 17, 2014 16:16:31 GMT
I'm willing to give him time but I am not convinced at all. This coming from someone who tends to fully back managers in favour of blaming players etc.
He needs to calm down and work out what he wants to play and stick to it. We don't want a world class tactician. We haven't got the players or nouse to change things every week. He needs to work out what we are gonna play and play it. Stop dicking around and costing us points.
A solid foundation from which to build is what we need right now. Dam sort it out.
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Post by Hugo Admin on Aug 17, 2014 16:18:40 GMT
I've never wanted a manager to do so well on a personal level.
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Post by Rovers 12th Man on Aug 17, 2014 16:21:24 GMT
It really pains me to say this as I think DC is a great bloke but after the last few games of last season and the start of this one, lots of doubts are starting to creep in.
But unfortunately I have even less faith in the board to appoint a suitable replacement and then back him if he was to go.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2014 16:26:51 GMT
Clarke knew what he was taking on when he took the job if he didn't think he could keep us up he should not have taken the job. He failed to keep us up and he should have gone after Mansfield tears or no tears. Our position is totally unacceptable we need to get rid now. We have probably blown our chance of an automatic promotion already, but if we can get someone else in soon we might have a chance of a playoff spot. Whatever happens in my view Clarke has had his chance and come up short he needs to go end of.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Aug 17, 2014 16:45:50 GMT
Clarke knew what he was taking on when he took the job if he didn't think he could keep us up he should not have taken the job. He failed to keep us up and he should have gone after Mansfield tears or no tears. Our position is totally unacceptable we need to get rid now. We have probably blown our chance of an automatic promotion already, but if we can get someone else in soon we might have a chance of a playoff spot. Whatever happens in my view Clarke has had his chance and come up short he needs to go end of. You really think a change of manager is going to make the difference required?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2014 17:14:40 GMT
Clarke knew what he was taking on when he took the job if he didn't think he could keep us up he should not have taken the job. He failed to keep us up and he should have gone after Mansfield tears or no tears. Our position is totally unacceptable we need to get rid now. We have probably blown our chance of an automatic promotion already, but if we can get someone else in soon we might have a chance of a playoff spot. Whatever happens in my view Clarke has had his chance and come up short he needs to go end of. You really think a change of manager is going to make the difference required? I am saying that I don't think the present manager is up to the job and needs to go. The simple fact is where we are is not acceptable we have not got the results required and that is the managers responsibility. It is then up to the club to appoint the right man to change our fortunes whether it works or not is a gamble that's football. I don't think that plodding along with an inept manager is the right option.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Aug 17, 2014 17:27:19 GMT
You really think a change of manager is going to make the difference required? I am saying that I don't think the present manager is up to the job and needs to go. The simple fact is where we are is not acceptable we have not got the results required and that is the managers responsibility. It is then up to the club to appoint the right man to change our fortunes whether it works or not is a gamble that's football. I don't think that plodding along with an inept manager is the right option. The manager isn't the problem. Or at least not the main problem. Who will your next scapegoat be then?
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Post by Centenary Gas on Aug 17, 2014 17:27:58 GMT
Are people really suggesting we sack the manager after THREE games? Do you know how rediculous that is?
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2014 17:32:35 GMT
Are people really suggesting we sack the manager after THREE games? Do you know how rediculous that is? No! I am saying he should have been bombed out after the Mansfield game when he got us relegated.
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Post by Centenary Gas on Aug 17, 2014 17:40:16 GMT
Are people really suggesting we sack the manager after THREE games? Do you know how rediculous that is? No! I am saying he should have been bombed out after the Mansfield game when he got us relegated. Fair enough opinion, but saying he 'needs to go' would suggest you don't want to give him the benefit of a fourth game of the season.
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Post by Topper Gas on Aug 17, 2014 17:48:37 GMT
You really think a change of manager is going to make the difference required? I am saying that I don't think the present manager is up to the job and needs to go. The simple fact is where we are is not acceptable we have not got the results required and that is the managers responsibility. It is then up to the club to appoint the right man to change our fortunes whether it works or not is a gamble that's football. I don't think that plodding along with an inept manager is the right option. It's the managers responsibility? So the BoD and the players don't count whatsoever? Whilst it maybe up to the club to appoint the right manager there is little evidence they have the capability to that, also would a new manager deal with DC's players with little money to bring in their own players, after all sacking JW last season was hardly a great move. I'd give DC 3 games to turn things around, as if we are still struggling by our third home game then we have big problems.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2014 17:49:19 GMT
We probably can't even afford to pay Darrel Clarke off! It's looking bad but sacking him now and bringing in a new man to fire up players that have a lot of loyalty to Darrel Clarke(the new signings anyway)would seem a high risk gamble to me.difficult times but the man deserves a lot more than 3 games to get it right.
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Post by GasAttacK on Aug 17, 2014 17:49:35 GMT
A lot of people said DC shouldn't take any blame for last season but I'm afraid I disagree. Although he didn't have the final say he was working with the players from day 1 to the day we got relegated and in my opinion we were actually worse after he took full control.
He's had the opportunity to bring in 9 players and only Taylor has shown any real quality. Leadbitter in particular is an absolute liability and I still can't understand why we didn't sign Higgins.
I was chatting to the old Rovers scout Richard Everson today and he doesn't believe Clarke has any real knowledge of players or decent contacts in the game.
Not only would I question his signings but his tactics and team selection are equally poor.
I can't believe I'm even talking about sacking the manager after just 3 games but the performances have got progressively worse culminating in yesterdays shambles and I think in hindsight he should have gone after Mansfield.
I just can't see him turning it around. He's managed to make even some of our better players look poor and on yesterdays showing we'd have a job to beat a pub side. We don't seem to have any game plan, the team looks completely clueless and it's hard to believe they train at all. I'd also question his motivational skills and man maangement as some players looks disinterested.
Altrincham were a very poor part time side who we somehow managed to make look good. Grimsby aren't as good as we thought either having failed to beat both Nuneaton and Dover at home and even Barnet lost at home yesterday.
On current form we're in for another relegation battle and if Clarke stays in charge we could well end up the Stockport of the Conference South.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2014 17:56:31 GMT
I am saying that I don't think the present manager is up to the job and needs to go. The simple fact is where we are is not acceptable we have not got the results required and that is the managers responsibility. It is then up to the club to appoint the right man to change our fortunes whether it works or not is a gamble that's football. I don't think that plodding along with an inept manager is the right option. The manager isn't the problem. Or at least not the main problem. Who will your next scapegoat be then? I don't actually think holding a manager responsible for poor results is scapegoating, it is his job to get results.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 17, 2014 18:08:10 GMT
Are people really suggesting we sack the manager after THREE games? Do you know how rediculous that is? It is ridiculous but there is such a negativity over the club, an anger that has not been eased from last season. The board made all sorts of promises they have not kept then all buggered off on holiday whilst our under prepared squad limped through the first three games. What we need is for big changes at the club, we need new investment, new ideas and new optimism. The club is imploding and nothing makes sense right now. We need leadership and we need faith and belief in what we are doing. DCs appointment to the club was a complete farse which is why he is not being given the time a normal manager would get. Something has to happen to bring the club back together a very strong statement of intent. Finally this is not about 3 games, its about a decade or more of failure, cut backs, no ambition and the endless downward march of this club under terrible leadership. DC has had almost 20 games in total and he needs a big result saturday.
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Post by Hugo Admin on Aug 17, 2014 18:21:20 GMT
Right all. Get ready for my fishing analogy.
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