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Post by stevek192 on Jul 9, 2016 8:39:39 GMT
Well my first thought is I should have kept to my golden rule-avoid friendlies!! I would almost describe them as a training exercise gone wrong and the only use of this one (and very worthwhile) is to put money into a local clubs coffers. Anyway I expect what most people want to know is how various players played and whether we have any stars coming through.
In all honesty it is very difficult to judge on any one game and particularly when its against a local league side but overall I would say that Mildenhall looked very shaky and the defence as a whole was pretty well a shambles from start to finish but on saying that I wouldn't expect any of the back four to feature too much and probably only James Clarke will make the bench. Lyttle,Kilgour and Greenslade were I believe the other players none of whom I would say were up to playing against any higher level opposition - just my humble opinion but to put it in perspective I did once say that Marcus Stewart wouldn't make a striker as long as he had a hole in his arse!! and I have often been reminded of that so there is hope for all of them! The midfield four was Montano , Lines (Capt), Lawrence and Moore. Moore and Montano both looked very good or should I say they looked as you would expect them to against Mangos. Lines and Lawrence were ok but as you can imagine there was little ball winning in there and again no signs of Lines getting a shot in at the end of his long probing runs. Up front Gaffney won very little in the air and apart from scoring the first goal there were only a few glimpses of his skills until he limped off before half time to be replaced by Lucas. Alongside Gaffney was James our season long loanee and he did even less than Gaffney looking very lightweight and rarely getting a look in but as I said earlier you can't judge a player on one game whatever the opposition. For me there were two highlights in the first half 1) The first time probably since Newcastle at home all those years ago that I have seen a free kick given in the six yard box for a pass back and it was duly dispatched for the opening goal. 2) Our second goal which was superb- a long run from Byron Moore from deep in his own half and then a pin pointed defensive splitting pass that was finished sublimely by Montano.
The second half was littered with changes - Easter tried hard and looks very fit which is a good sign and the only other worth mentioning was Broom who looked outstanding and quickly scored two goals but again it is difficult to judge because Mangotsfield were by then visibly tiring and they couldn't cope with his pace. The other goal was a towering header by James Clarke. Mangotsfield scored at 2-1 to equalise and at 4-1 and on both occasions made our defence look awful although both were well taken efforts.
From this performance I can really only see the following in the side on day 1 and that of course if we don't sign anyone else.
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------------ Gaffney
Of the ones who appeared last night I would expect Montano, James Clarke, Liam Lawrence, Jermaine Easter pushing for places and Broom pushing for a regular place on the bench.
My own feeling at this stage is that we should be looking to sign four more - definitely a left back as Greenslade for me shows neither positional sense or the ability to mark a player, two strikers (One a target man and a PROVEN goalscorer at League 1 level , a midfield player and in the ideal world it would be 5.
I doubt I shall be attending any other friendlies and if not will see you all at Scunthorpe.
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Post by singupgas on Jul 9, 2016 9:36:50 GMT
Agree, cant go by one game, most players looked rusty last night which was to be expected.
Montano and Moore looked like they were both fit and positive in attack, can see them starting either side.
Back four for the first game of the season i would guess is going to Leadbitter, Lockyer, Hartley, Brown. Mchrystal isnt getting any younger but more than able from the subs bench. The young lads that played last night need more game time playing at a higher level than youth football.
Strikers; difficult to say at the moment, Taylor situation might cost us dearly in preparation. Going by end of season from Gaffney, cant question work rate but will the goals come in League 1. As for the player on loan need to see a bit more of him on the pitch. Think we could do with going out and actually buying a Striker from one of the League 2 play off clubs, need someone who has at least scored some league goals.
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 9, 2016 9:49:59 GMT
Well my first thought is I should have kept to my golden rule-avoid friendlies!! I would almost describe them as a training exercise gone wrong and the only use of this one (and very worthwhile) is to put money into a local clubs coffers. Anyway I expect what most people want to know is how various players played and whether we have any stars coming through.
In all honesty it is very difficult to judge on any one game and particularly when its against a local league side but overall I would say that Mildenhall looked very shaky and the defence as a whole was pretty well a shambles from start to finish but on saying that I wouldn't expect any of the back four to feature too much and probably only James Clarke will make the bench. Lyttle,Kilgour and Greenslade were I believe the other players none of whom I would say were up to playing against any higher level opposition - just my humble opinion but to put it in perspective I did once say that Marcus Stewart wouldn't make a striker as long as he had a hole in his arse!! and I have often been reminded of that so there is hope for all of them! The midfield four was Montano , Lines (Capt), Lawrence and Moore. Moore and Montano both looked very good or should I say they looked as you would expect them to against Mangos. Lines and Lawrence were ok but as you can imagine there was little ball winning in there and again no signs of Lines getting a shot in at the end of his long probing runs. Up front Gaffney won very little in the air and apart from scoring the first goal there were only a few glimpses of his skills until he limped off before half time to be replaced by Lucas. Alongside Gaffney was James our season long loanee and he did even less than Gaffney looking very lightweight and rarely getting a look in but as I said earlier you can't judge a player on one game whatever the opposition. For me there were two highlights in the first half 1) The first time probably since Newcastle at home all those years ago that I have seen a free kick given in the six yard box for a pass back and it was duly dispatched for the opening goal. 2) Our second goal which was superb- a long run from Byron Moore from deep in his own half and then a pin pointed defensive splitting pass that was finished sublimely by Montano.
The second half was littered with changes - Easter tried hard and looks very fit which is a good sign and the only other worth mentioning was Broom who looked outstanding and quickly scored two goals but again it is difficult to judge because Mangotsfield were by then visibly tiring and they couldn't cope with his pace. The other goal was a towering header by James Clarke. Mangotsfield scored at 2-1 to equalise and at 4-1 and on both occasions made our defence look awful although both were well taken efforts.
From this performance I can really only see the following in the side on day 1 and that of course if we don't sign anyone else.
Mildenhall
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------------ Gaffney
Of the ones who appeared last night I would expect Montano, James Clarke, Liam Lawrence, Jermaine Easter pushing for places and Broom pushing for a regular place on the bench.
My own feeling at this stage is that we should be looking to sign four more - definitely a left back as Greenslade for me shows neither positional sense or the ability to mark a player, two strikers (One a target man and a PROVEN goalscorer at League 1 level , a midfield player and in the ideal world it would be 5.
I doubt I shall be attending any other friendlies and if not will see you all at Scunthorpe. Seems a bit harsh writing Greenslade off after one pre-season friendly, DC must see something in him or surely he would have been released, although it looks like he might already be lining up the lad from Reading, although we really need a left winger/FB/WB or otherwise he might spend all season waiting for Browner to pick up an injury! Midfield wise we have CL/LL/LM/OC plus JE you do have to wonder if DC will see how they perform before bringing in a 5th, or even 6th, CM? Striker wise I wouldn't be surprised i McBurnie or another similar young striker joined us unless DC got money to spend once MT finally decides his future but I doubt LJ was a bargain buy.
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Post by daniel300380 on Jul 9, 2016 9:53:46 GMT
Well my first thought is I should have kept to my golden rule-avoid friendlies!! I would almost describe them as a training exercise gone wrong and the only use of this one (and very worthwhile) is to put money into a local clubs coffers. Anyway I expect what most people want to know is how various players played and whether we have any stars coming through.
In all honesty it is very difficult to judge on any one game and particularly when its against a local league side but overall I would say that Mildenhall looked very shaky and the defence as a whole was pretty well a shambles from start to finish but on saying that I wouldn't expect any of the back four to feature too much and probably only James Clarke will make the bench. Lyttle,Kilgour and Greenslade were I believe the other players none of whom I would say were up to playing against any higher level opposition - just my humble opinion but to put it in perspective I did once say that Marcus Stewart wouldn't make a striker as long as he had a hole in his arse!! and I have often been reminded of that so there is hope for all of them! The midfield four was Montano , Lines (Capt), Lawrence and Moore. Moore and Montano both looked very good or should I say they looked as you would expect them to against Mangos. Lines and Lawrence were ok but as you can imagine there was little ball winning in there and again no signs of Lines getting a shot in at the end of his long probing runs. Up front Gaffney won very little in the air and apart from scoring the first goal there were only a few glimpses of his skills until he limped off before half time to be replaced by Lucas. Alongside Gaffney was James our season long loanee and he did even less than Gaffney looking very lightweight and rarely getting a look in but as I said earlier you can't judge a player on one game whatever the opposition. For me there were two highlights in the first half 1) The first time probably since Newcastle at home all those years ago that I have seen a free kick given in the six yard box for a pass back and it was duly dispatched for the opening goal. 2) Our second goal which was superb- a long run from Byron Moore from deep in his own half and then a pin pointed defensive splitting pass that was finished sublimely by Montano.
The second half was littered with changes - Easter tried hard and looks very fit which is a good sign and the only other worth mentioning was Broom who looked outstanding and quickly scored two goals but again it is difficult to judge because Mangotsfield were by then visibly tiring and they couldn't cope with his pace. The other goal was a towering header by James Clarke. Mangotsfield scored at 2-1 to equalise and at 4-1 and on both occasions made our defence look awful although both were well taken efforts.
From this performance I can really only see the following in the side on day 1 and that of course if we don't sign anyone else.
Mildenhall
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---------- Lines ----------- Moore
------------ Gaffney
Of the ones who appeared last night I would expect Montano, James Clarke, Liam Lawrence, Jermaine Easter pushing for places and Broom pushing for a regular place on the bench.
My own feeling at this stage is that we should be looking to sign four more - definitely a left back as Greenslade for me shows neither positional sense or the ability to mark a player, two strikers (One a target man and a PROVEN goalscorer at League 1 level , a midfield player and in the ideal world it would be 5.
I doubt I shall be attending any other friendlies and if not will see you all at Scunthorpe. Seems a bit harsh writing Greenslade off after one pre-season friendly, DC must see something in him or surely he would have been released, although it looks like he might already be lining up the lad from Reading, although we really need a left winger/FB/WB or otherwise he might spend all season waiting for Browner to pick up an injury! Midfield wise we have CL/LL/LM/OC plus JE you do have to wonder if DC will see how they perform before bringing in a 5th, or even 6th, CM? Striker wise I wouldn't be surprised i McBurnie or another similar young striker joined us unless DC got money to spend once MT finally decides his future but I doubt LJ was a bargain buy. Sinclair in midfield??
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jul 9, 2016 10:01:27 GMT
Well my first thought is I should have kept to my golden rule-avoid friendlies!! I would almost describe them as a training exercise gone wrong and the only use of this one (and very worthwhile) is to put money into a local clubs coffers. Anyway I expect what most people want to know is how various players played and whether we have any stars coming through.
In all honesty it is very difficult to judge on any one game and particularly when its against a local league side but overall I would say that Mildenhall looked very shaky and the defence as a whole was pretty well a shambles from start to finish but on saying that I wouldn't expect any of the back four to feature too much and probably only James Clarke will make the bench. Lyttle,Kilgour and Greenslade were I believe the other players none of whom I would say were up to playing against any higher level opposition - just my humble opinion but to put it in perspective I did once say that Marcus Stewart wouldn't make a striker as long as he had a hole in his arse!! and I have often been reminded of that so there is hope for all of them! The midfield four was Montano , Lines (Capt), Lawrence and Moore. Moore and Montano both looked very good or should I say they looked as you would expect them to against Mangos. Lines and Lawrence were ok but as you can imagine there was little ball winning in there and again no signs of Lines getting a shot in at the end of his long probing runs. Up front Gaffney won very little in the air and apart from scoring the first goal there were only a few glimpses of his skills until he limped off before half time to be replaced by Lucas. Alongside Gaffney was James our season long loanee and he did even less than Gaffney looking very lightweight and rarely getting a look in but as I said earlier you can't judge a player on one game whatever the opposition. For me there were two highlights in the first half 1) The first time probably since Newcastle at home all those years ago that I have seen a free kick given in the six yard box for a pass back and it was duly dispatched for the opening goal. 2) Our second goal which was superb- a long run from Byron Moore from deep in his own half and then a pin pointed defensive splitting pass that was finished sublimely by Montano.
The second half was littered with changes - Easter tried hard and looks very fit which is a good sign and the only other worth mentioning was Broom who looked outstanding and quickly scored two goals but again it is difficult to judge because Mangotsfield were by then visibly tiring and they couldn't cope with his pace. The other goal was a towering header by James Clarke. Mangotsfield scored at 2-1 to equalise and at 4-1 and on both occasions made our defence look awful although both were well taken efforts.
From this performance I can really only see the following in the side on day 1 and that of course if we don't sign anyone else.
Mildenhall
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---------- Lines ----------- Moore
------------ Gaffney
Of the ones who appeared last night I would expect Montano, James Clarke, Liam Lawrence, Jermaine Easter pushing for places and Broom pushing for a regular place on the bench.
My own feeling at this stage is that we should be looking to sign four more - definitely a left back as Greenslade for me shows neither positional sense or the ability to mark a player, two strikers (One a target man and a PROVEN goalscorer at League 1 level , a midfield player and in the ideal world it would be 5.
I doubt I shall be attending any other friendlies and if not will see you all at Scunthorpe. Seems a bit harsh writing Greenslade off after one pre-season friendly, DC must see something in him or surely he would have been released, although it looks like he might already be lining up the lad from Reading, although we really need a left winger/FB/WB or otherwise he might spend all season waiting for Browner to pick up an injury! Midfield wise we have CL/LL/LM/OC plus JE you do have to wonder if DC will see how they perform before bringing in a 5th, or even 6th, CM? Striker wise I wouldn't be surprised i McBurnie or another similar young striker joined us unless DC got money to spend once MT finally decides his future but I doubt LJ was a bargain buy. Maybe Steve has seen Greenslade a few times like myself and just not been impressed with him at anytime?
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 9, 2016 10:55:39 GMT
Seems a bit harsh writing Greenslade off after one pre-season friendly, DC must see something in him or surely he would have been released, although it looks like he might already be lining up the lad from Reading, although we really need a left winger/FB/WB or otherwise he might spend all season waiting for Browner to pick up an injury! Midfield wise we have CL/LL/LM/OC plus JE you do have to wonder if DC will see how they perform before bringing in a 5th, or even 6th, CM? Striker wise I wouldn't be surprised i McBurnie or another similar young striker joined us unless DC got money to spend once MT finally decides his future but I doubt LJ was a bargain buy. Maybe Steve has seen Greenslade a few times like myself and just not been impressed with him at anytime? Thought he did OK against FGR which is the only other really competitive game he plays for Rovers in recent times?
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 9, 2016 10:58:04 GMT
Seems a bit harsh writing Greenslade off after one pre-season friendly, DC must see something in him or surely he would have been released, although it looks like he might already be lining up the lad from Reading, although we really need a left winger/FB/WB or otherwise he might spend all season waiting for Browner to pick up an injury! Midfield wise we have CL/LL/LM/OC plus JE you do have to wonder if DC will see how they perform before bringing in a 5th, or even 6th, CM? Striker wise I wouldn't be surprised i McBurnie or another similar young striker joined us unless DC got money to spend once MT finally decides his future but I doubt LJ was a bargain buy. Sinclair in midfield?? Make that at least 5 already then, unless DC intends moving one on, which is unlikely?, there must be limited on how many CM's DC can sign?
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jul 9, 2016 11:49:09 GMT
Maybe Steve has seen Greenslade a few times like myself and just not been impressed with him at anytime? Thought he did OK against FGR which is the only other really competitive game he plays for Rovers in recent times? So he wasn't trying in the few matches I have seen him play?
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Post by stevek192 on Jul 9, 2016 12:03:08 GMT
As said just my opinion on Greenslade.Seen him a couple of times and just don't feel he will cut it in League 1.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jul 9, 2016 12:09:20 GMT
As said just my opinion on Greenslade.Seen him a couple of times and just don't feel he will cut it in League 1. Agreed. Topper arguing for arguing sake again.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2016 14:47:20 GMT
As said just my opinion on Greenslade.Seen him a couple of times and just don't feel he will cut it in League 1. Agreed. Topper arguing for arguing sake again.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2016 15:06:12 GMT
Regarding Broom, he stood out for me last pre season. Never got a real run out during the season, we are one step higher this year so will be interesting to see if he gets any sub appearances or starts like Lyttle did against Orient.
I'm impressed with the lad, he looks a real threat. Anyone know how he got on at Salisbury?
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Post by stapletongas on Jul 9, 2016 15:42:42 GMT
My first thoughts are 2 games that mean nothing more than gaining fitness.
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jul 9, 2016 17:25:35 GMT
My first thoughts are 2 games that mean nothing more than gaining fitness. True on the whole but interesting to see how new players and young players get in as they in particular will have a point to prove.
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Post by oldgas on Jul 9, 2016 17:40:38 GMT
Regarding Broom, he stood out for me last pre season. Never got a real run out during the season, we are one step higher this year so will be interesting to see if he gets any sub appearances like Lyttle did against Orient. Know I'm impressed with the lad, he looks a real threat. Anyone know how he got on at Salisbury? Very strong, fast and direct. Played as if his future depended on it. Lucas played a simila game n the second half. l don't know what they're feeding our lads on, it must be raw steak, sherry and eggs going by their body mass! You could Certanly tell the difference in muscle and strength between the professional and amateur players.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 9, 2016 17:49:04 GMT
Regarding Broom, he stood out for me last pre season. Never got a real run out during the season, we are one step higher this year so will be interesting to see if he gets any sub appearances like Lyttle did against Orient. Know I'm impressed with the lad, he looks a real threat. Anyone know how he got on at Salisbury? Very strong, fast and direct. Played as if his future depended on it. Lucas played a simila game n the second half. l don't know what they're feeding our lads on, it must be raw steak, sherry and eggs going by their body mass! You could Certanly tell the difference in muscle and strength between the professional and amateur players. Thanks for that. I remember he showed a similar attitude last pre-season. Cant believe how lean the lads look. Prob helps not having Parkesy in the pics!
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Post by bluegas on Jul 9, 2016 18:18:10 GMT
My first thoughts are 2 games that mean nothing more than gaining fitness. My thoughts exactly. & put a few quid the way of clubs we owe one to.
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Post by bluegas on Jul 9, 2016 18:30:09 GMT
Regarding Broom, he stood out for me last pre season. Never got a real run out during the season, we are one step higher this year so will be interesting to see if he gets any sub appearances like Lyttle did against Orient. I'm impressed with the lad, he looks a real threat. Anyone know how he got on at Salisbury? He surprised me. He looks tall on the pitch but when he stood next to me at the bar he only came up to my shoulder. And I'm not 6 ft.. (& he was drinking J20)
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Post by richardstad on Jul 10, 2016 10:30:25 GMT
At Salisbury yesterday. Only a pre season game but for what it's worth...
Stand out players were Bodin (a must start in the team), Leads and Broom
Closely followed by Gosling and Brown
Chad Field could be one for future. I saw him play v well most of last season at Bognor Regis Town in their excellent league campaign and one game from Wembley in FA Trophy
Roll on Sabadell
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Post by Gas Go Marching In on Jul 10, 2016 10:33:50 GMT
At Salisbury yesterday. Only a pre season game but for what it's worth... Stand out players were Bodin (a must start in the team), Leads and Broom Closely followed by Gosling and Brown Chad Field could be one for future. I saw him play v well most of last season at Bognor Regis Town in their excellent league campaign and one game from Wembley in FA Trophy Roll on Sabadell Thanks for this. Yes, it is only a friendly but is interesting to hear how players are doing especially new players/young uns. Where did Broom play out of interest?
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