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Jul 16, 2016 0:33:20 GMT
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Post by WeAreTheGas on Jul 16, 2016 0:33:20 GMT
I don't think it's too much of a problem really.
Taylor is obvious first choice.
Lucas will probably go out on loan, hopefully to a L2 club where he'll get lots of football.
Easter was a bit-part/impact player for us in L2 last season and seemed happy enough with that role, so imagine he'll carry out the same role this year.
So IMO that leaves Gaffney, Harrison and James to battle it out to partner Taylor. Gaffney is probably at the front of the queue but needs to find his scoring boots again.
There will be injuries, suspensions and changes in formation though - so I'm sure everyone will get plenty of game time.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2016 6:24:31 GMT
Didn't we score 75+ goals last season? How many of those goals came from players with recent League Two experience? No idea why people are so scared of League One that we suddenly need superstars. We've are where we are on merit, just relax. Interesting. When does this notion become unacceptable? Would it be ok to start the championship without experience at that level? The prem? How about dropping into the conference without some know how of the way it is down there? Why is LG1 any different? Is it fair to assume that the players will be a bit better than those in LG2? If so, our squad will need to perform better than last year's exploits otherwise it will be a long struggle. Before the predictable polar opposite post comes my way....I'm not suggesting spending willy nilly! However, I think it would be a signal of intent if we saw a signing or 2 that proved that we aren't here to make up the numbers. I don't think that retaining all of the players who helped us to promotion over the last 2 years is wise management of a forward looking club at all. Great for loyalty but it doesn't make any sense if we are trying to climb in standard. |
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Jul 16, 2016 6:43:22 GMT
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Post by beaver132 on Jul 16, 2016 6:43:22 GMT
I love the way a thread titled 'problem' has turned into an entirely positive thing.... 'some people' haven't posted yet.... |
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Jul 16, 2016 6:45:55 GMT
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Post by beaver132 on Jul 16, 2016 6:45:55 GMT
Didn't we score 75+ goals last season? How many of those goals came from players with recent League Two experience? No idea why people are so scared of League One that we suddenly need superstars. We've are where we are on merit, just relax. Interesting. When does this notion become unacceptable? Would it be ok to start the championship without experience at that level? The prem? How about dropping into the conference without some know how of the way it is down there? Why is LG1 any different? Is it fair to assume that the players will be a bit better than those in LG2? If so, our squad will need to perform better than last year's exploits otherwise it will be a long struggle. Before the predictable polar opposite post comes my way....I'm not suggesting spending willy nilly! However, I think it would be a signal of intent if we saw a signing or 2 that proved that we aren't here to make up the numbers. I don't think that retaining all of the players who helped us to promotion over the last 2 years is wise management of a forward looking club at all. Great for loyalty but it doesn't make any sense if we are trying to climb in standard. Bournemouth did ok. Most of their players weren't prem players. |
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Post by garygas on Jul 16, 2016 6:50:06 GMT
Didn't we score 75+ goals last season? How many of those goals came from players with recent League Two experience? No idea why people are so scared of League One that we suddenly need superstars. We've are where we are on merit, just relax. Interesting. When does this notion become unacceptable? Would it be ok to start the championship without experience at that level? The prem? How about dropping into the conference without some know how of the way it is down there? Why is LG1 any different? Is it fair to assume that the players will be a bit better than those in LG2? If so, our squad will need to perform better than last year's exploits otherwise it will be a long struggle. Before the predictable polar opposite post comes my way....I'm not suggesting spending willy nilly! However, I think it would be a signal of intent if we saw a signing or 2 that proved that we aren't here to make up the numbers. I don't think that retaining all of the players who helped us to promotion over the last 2 years is wise management of a forward looking club at all. Great for loyalty but it doesn't make any sense if we are trying to climb in standard. We have had players in league 2 with championship experience in the past and look where that got us. Hard work and a bit of talent can take you a long way in football and this team/squad works harder than any rovers team I have watched. |
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Jul 16, 2016 7:37:35 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2016 7:37:35 GMT
Didn't we score 75+ goals last season? How many of those goals came from players with recent League Two experience? No idea why people are so scared of League One that we suddenly need superstars. We've are where we are on merit, just relax. hHowever, I think it would be a signal of intent if we saw a signing or 2 that proved that we aren't here to make up the numbers. I don't think that retaining all of the players who helped us to promotion over the last 2 years is wise management of a forward looking club at all. Given we were always going to make 4 or 5 signings and we've made 3, we may well get some more L1 experience. The group exceeded expectations last season, think it's worth giving them a chance. PT's 2007-2009 side was full of hard workers with less ability, 2009-10 was a side full of 'quality' but not much work. As I said, just relax. No point moaning until there's a reason to  |
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Post by Langford Gas on Jul 16, 2016 7:41:50 GMT
I think we can safely leave the running of our special club in the capable hands of DC. The man's a genius, and the board ought to sign him to a 10 year contract. I'm sure the reason he signed for 3 years is because he's been assured the new stadium and training facility will happen, and soon, and that he has the opportunity to build something special. Spot on, I also believe that DC can be for us what Bill Shankly was for Liverpool |
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Post by Langford Gas on Jul 16, 2016 7:43:57 GMT
Only turns into a problem if they're all on top form. Taylor and Gaffney will be the front two IMO. Probably see Ellis and Lucas out on loan with a option to recall them leaving Easter for experience and young Luke James trying to force their way in. There will not be an option to recall anyone on short notice. That is no longer possible. That's why clubs need bigger squads to cover injuries etc. Does that also apply to loans to non-league i.e if Lucas went to FGR can we still not call him back ? |
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Post by warehamgas on Jul 16, 2016 8:35:52 GMT
Didn't we score 75+ goals last season? How many of those goals came from players with recent League Two experience? No idea why people are so scared of League One that we suddenly need superstars. We've are where we are on merit, just relax. Interesting. When does this notion become unacceptable? Would it be ok to start the championship without experience at that level? The prem? How about dropping into the conference without some know how of the way it is down there? Why is LG1 any different? Is it fair to assume that the players will be a bit better than those in LG2? If so, our squad will need to perform better than last year's exploits otherwise it will be a long struggle. Before the predictable polar opposite post comes my way....I'm not suggesting spending willy nilly! However, I think it would be a signal of intent if we saw a signing or 2 that proved that we aren't here to make up the numbers. I don't think that retaining all of the players who helped us to promotion over the last 2 years is wise management of a forward looking club at all. Great for loyalty but it doesn't make any sense if we are trying to climb in standard. Although I understand your argument about league 1 experience I disagree with your view about offering last season's players a contract again. I think it was a piece of inspired psychology from DC. All those players, come the last 6 matches knew that if we went up they would get the offer of a contract. And didn't they all play out of their skins in that time? They all had a part to play and all felt part of it. There was no "I won't be part of this so it doesn't matter", it was "I want to be part of this". I suspect some of them are having success they didn't think they would have and others, more experienced, Macca, Easter, Manse are having the most successful parts of their careers fairly late on. Seeing the substitutions all help create or score goals was proof of this. DC has a record of improving players and seeing Easter, Gos, Mansell, Macca, Lee B, Leads, TL, Bodin, Sinclair, Taylor, Gaffney and loads more improve under DC I think what DC did with the contracts was inspired. I see no reason why some of them can't continue to improve in a higher league. ps last season seeing Cambridge and Notts Co sign half the league in the summer and everyone said they'de be up there just because they signed so many. This season PVale, Oldham, Fleetwood and others have been buying double figures in players. I am delighted we have a manager with a plan who knows what he's got and surrounds himself with trusted players. UTG! |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2016 9:28:56 GMT
Didn't we score 75+ goals last season? How many of those goals came from players with recent League Two experience? No idea why people are so scared of League One that we suddenly need superstars. We've are where we are on merit, just relax. Interesting. When does this notion become unacceptable? Would it be ok to start the championship without experience at that level? The prem? How about dropping into the conference without some know how of the way it is down there? Why is LG1 any different? Is it fair to assume that the players will be a bit better than those in LG2? If so, our squad will need to perform better than last year's exploits otherwise it will be a long struggle. Before the predictable polar opposite post comes my way....I'm not suggesting spending willy nilly! However, I think it would be a signal of intent if we saw a signing or 2 that proved that we aren't here to make up the numbers. I don't think that retaining all of the players who helped us to promotion over the last 2 years is wise management of a forward looking club at all. Great for loyalty but it doesn't make any sense if we are trying to climb in standard. mildenhall lines easter byron moore, hartley lawrence all players with league 1 and above experience? |
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Post by Topper Gas on Jul 16, 2016 10:10:57 GMT
Interesting. When does this notion become unacceptable? Would it be ok to start the championship without experience at that level? The prem? How about dropping into the conference without some know how of the way it is down there? Why is LG1 any different? Is it fair to assume that the players will be a bit better than those in LG2? If so, our squad will need to perform better than last year's exploits otherwise it will be a long struggle. Before the predictable polar opposite post comes my way....I'm not suggesting spending willy nilly! However, I think it would be a signal of intent if we saw a signing or 2 that proved that we aren't here to make up the numbers. I don't think that retaining all of the players who helped us to promotion over the last 2 years is wise management of a forward looking club at all. Great for loyalty but it doesn't make any sense if we are trying to climb in standard. mildenhall lines easter byron moore, hartley lawrence all players with league 1 and above experience? Was just thinking the same thing, McChrystal, Montano, James, Mansell (I think) also have Div 1 experience and you'd hope Lockyer & Brown will make the transition OK, only really the likes of Leadbitter, Sincs & Gosling may find it a step too far but you know they'll give 110% to prove they are good enough. Posters are talking nonsense saying we shouldn't have offered all the players new contract when it's worked two season's running, if Gosling had know he was about to be released would he have played so well in the D&R game? Now the MT saga is finally settled DC will know how much he's got left in the kitty too spend and where he needs to spend it, CM would be the position I'd target, followed by winger/cover at LB/LWB, possibly goalie if Mildenhall is looking another year older in pre-season. Although with 3 decent recruits already I'm not too concerned. |
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Jul 16, 2016 12:57:30 GMT
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Post by socrates on Jul 16, 2016 12:57:30 GMT
why do people think we need a striker with league 1 experience.... we haven't got a manager, a board, a chairman with league 1 experience.... lets mix it up boys, because it's fresh.... Because the club won't go anywhere without goals (other than down to league 2). So it would be nice to have a proven striker at this level. Taylor wasn't proven in league 2 this time last year. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2016 13:13:42 GMT
For the record I think Taylor will notch 15+. It would be nice to have a proven striker at this level alongside him. No disrespect to Gaffers and Easter like.
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Post by Hugo the Elder on Jul 16, 2016 13:15:23 GMT
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Post by Dr Gas on Jul 16, 2016 13:23:44 GMT
why do people think we need a striker with league 1 experience.... we haven't got a manager, a board, a chairman with league 1 experience.... lets mix it up boys, because it's fresh.... Because the club won't go anywhere without goals (other than down to league 2). So it would be nice to have a proven striker at this level. Getting a proven striker at this level does not mean he is going to guarantee goals any more than a non proven striker. For comparison I give you Mickey Evans, proven at this level AND higher but the pits for us: On the other hand, Barry Hayles who was unproven above non league, so not even fourth tier experience, but he DID do the business at this level. |
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Post by Gastafari on Jul 16, 2016 13:51:56 GMT
Didn't we score 75+ goals last season? How many of those goals came from players with recent League Two experience? No idea why people are so scared of League One that we suddenly need superstars. We've are where we are on merit, just relax. Interesting. When does this notion become unacceptable? Would it be ok to start the championship without experience at that level? The prem? How about dropping into the conference without some know how of the way it is down there? Why is LG1 any different? Is it fair to assume that the players will be a bit better than those in LG2? If so, our squad will need to perform better than last year's exploits otherwise it will be a long struggle. Before the predictable polar opposite post comes my way....I'm not suggesting spending willy nilly! However, I think it would be a signal of intent if we saw a signing or 2 that proved that we aren't here to make up the numbers. I don't think that retaining all of the players who helped us to promotion over the last 2 years is wise management of a forward looking club at all. Great for loyalty but it doesn't make any sense if we are trying to climb in standard. Steve Mildenhall, Mark Mccrystal,Chris Lines, Jermaine Easter and Liam Lawrence have all played at League 1 or higher during their careers. Plus we've signed Byron Moore who has experience of League 1. Leicester won the Premier League last season and the majority of that squad had little to no Premier League experience. Jamie Vardy, Mahrez, Kante, Okazaki, Drinkwater, Wes Morgan etc had never played in The Premier League before. You'll need a few wise, experienced heads around the place, but just because most of the squad havent played at that level before isn't a problem. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2016 14:28:56 GMT
More than happy with our forward options now Mattee is on board.Got a good feeling Luke James will score plenty for us and spur Mattee on at the same time.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2016 15:17:14 GMT
Mildy, macca, Easter, Lawrence could all be described as past it if we wanted to be cynical.
They all ended up below LG1 for some reason or another right?
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Jul 16, 2016 16:18:22 GMT
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Post by gasandelectricity on Jul 16, 2016 16:18:22 GMT
More than happy with our forward options now Mattee is on board.Got a good feeling Luke James will score plenty for us and spur Mattee on at the same time. Have rated James in the games I've seen him play so far, even if he hasn't hit the net. Think he'll be more of a Bodin / Easter type player |
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Jul 16, 2016 17:46:13 GMT
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Post by Okebournegas on Jul 16, 2016 17:46:13 GMT
Mildy, macca, Easter, Lawrence could all be described as past it if we wanted to be cynical. They all ended up below LG1 for some reason or another right? I was going to write pretty much the same thing. Totally see where you're coming from , which is a bastard as I do enjoy out little disagreements at times !!! |
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