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Post by CrispPusher on Aug 5, 2016 10:12:39 GMT
I reserve the right to call a "supporter" taking actions that are incredibly detrimental to the club's future anything I like. In this case scab is probably the kindest thing I could call them. By attending you legitimise B teams, you say I think this is acceptable", you help pave the way for league three and b teams in the pyramid. Anyone that thinks that was has clearly been labotomised or is genuinely a scab. You attend and you're playing with the club's future. If you want to give the club your enterence fee fine, pop it into the FFS, that's what I've done. Don't be a scab though. I am against B Teams in this comp and the league and wont hlgo the Reading game I stilk dont get the against League 3 thing I dont think channge and restructure is necessarily a bad idea as long as it doesnt.involve B team being parachuted in The loss of 4 competitive home fixtures a season would have a massive financial effect on not only the clubs with few season ticket holders and small attendances, many of whom struggle to make ends meet as it is, but also clubs like ours and the surrounding businesses that cater to their supporters. The majority of Football League clubs wouldn't be naive enough to vote for it anyway, without considerable bullying/bribing from the Premier League, imo so it's a bit of a non-issue currently. With regards to the joke of playing the youth side of a club only one division above; I'll just buy an extra pint and pasty at a real game as like most people, I have much better ways to spend my free time than watching reserve football.
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Post by baggins on Aug 5, 2016 10:15:25 GMT
What if you're going just because you fancy watching the Rovers? Then you're a dastardly . Better than scab I suppose.
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Post by countygroundhotel on Aug 5, 2016 10:23:14 GMT
I am against B Teams in this comp and the league and wont hlgo the Reading game I stilk dont get the against League 3 thing I dont think channge and restructure is necessarily a bad idea as long as it doesnt.involve B team being parachuted in The loss of 4 competitive home fixtures a season would have a massive financial effect on not only the clubs with few season ticket holders and small attendances, many of whom struggle to make ends meet as it is, but also clubs like ours and the surrounding businesses that cater to their supporters. The majority of Football League clubs wouldn't be naive enough to vote for it anyway, without considerable bullying/bribing from the Premier League, imo so it's a bit of a non-issue currently. With regards to the joke of playing the youth side of a club only one division above; I'll just buy an extra pint and pasty at a real game as like most people, I have much better ways to spend my free time than watching reserve football. They were naive enough to vote for premier league u21s and look what we actually got.
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Post by peterparker on Aug 5, 2016 10:23:29 GMT
I have not suggested i trust the FL.
The EFL trophy doesnt need to be succesful if they are adamant to get B team in the league does it?
I made my position clear, i will boycott Reading but not the real games. If everyone did that it would send just as clear a message as boycotting all games
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Post by countygroundhotel on Aug 5, 2016 10:27:22 GMT
I have not suggested i trust the FL. The EFL trophy doesnt need to be succesful if they are adamant to get B team in the league does it? I made my position clear, i will boycott Reading but not the real games. If everyone did that it would send just as clear a message as boycotting all games That's your opinion that must of us believe is wrong. I'm sure the FL will pat you on the back when they declare it a success
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Post by chewbacca on Aug 5, 2016 10:32:00 GMT
Then you're a dastardly . Better than scab I suppose. As well as a scab.
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Post by chewbacca on Aug 5, 2016 10:32:30 GMT
I have not suggested i trust the FL. The EFL trophy doesnt need to be succesful if they are adamant to get B team in the league does it? I made my position clear, i will boycott Reading but not the real games. If everyone did that it would send just as clear a message as boycotting all games Sounds scabby.
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Post by peterparker on Aug 5, 2016 10:36:34 GMT
I have not suggested i trust the FL. The EFL trophy doesnt need to be succesful if they are adamant to get B team in the league does it? I made my position clear, i will boycott Reading but not the real games. If everyone did that it would send just as clear a message as boycotting all games That's your opinion that must of us believe is wrong. I'm sure the FL will pat you on the back when they declare it a success What quantifies success though and does it matter if they are adamant to get B Teams in the league as they will make it happen. If 3000 turned up for Yeovil and only 300 for Reading.i would suggest that is as clear a message of what people want to see as opposed to 300 for both
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Post by Okebournegas on Aug 5, 2016 10:43:22 GMT
That's your opinion that must of us believe is wrong. I'm sure the FL will pat you on the back when they declare it a success What quantifies success though and does it matter if they are adamant to get B Teams in the league as they will make it happen. If 3000 turned up for Yeovil and only 300 for Reading.i would suggest that is as clear a message of what people want to see as opposed to 300 for both It's really quite simple , stay away from all games . Not just reading , stay away from all games of this farcical experiment.
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Post by baggins on Aug 5, 2016 10:44:05 GMT
Better than scab I suppose. As well as a scab. Ah, scabby . Been called worse.
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Post by chewbacca on Aug 5, 2016 10:44:30 GMT
What quantifies success though and does it matter if they are adamant to get B Teams in the league as they will make it happen. If 3000 turned up for Yeovil and only 300 for Reading.i would suggest that is as clear a message of what people want to see as opposed to 300 for both It's really quite simple , stay away from all games . Not just reading , stay away from all games of this farcical experiment. By attending you legitimise the competition, by staying away from the whole thing you don't.
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Post by peterparker on Aug 5, 2016 10:45:26 GMT
Thank you for your views
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Post by baggins on Aug 5, 2016 10:48:52 GMT
It's really quite simple , stay away from all games . Not just reading , stay away from all games of this farcical experiment. By attending you legitimise the competition, by staying away from the whole thing you don't. Just admit you're going.
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Post by chewbacca on Aug 5, 2016 10:51:54 GMT
Thank you for your views
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Post by countygroundhotel on Aug 5, 2016 11:03:50 GMT
That's your opinion that must of us believe is wrong. I'm sure the FL will pat you on the back when they declare it a success What quantifies success though and does it matter if they are adamant to get B Teams in the league as they will make it happen. If 3000 turned up for Yeovil and only 300 for Reading.i would suggest that is as clear a message of what people want to see as opposed to 300 for both And then the FL will say there was an average attendance of 1,650. Easy enough to understand? As to what quantifies success I don't believe the FL have been so stupid as to state this upfront so they'll be free to look at the actual figures then present them in the best possible light, as I did in my first sentence. And let's not forget they sold this as being Premier league u21s and we've ended up with Championship u23s so it's not as if they haven't got form for moving the goal posts already is it? But you carry on supporting them.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2016 11:13:05 GMT
FL clubs would need to vote on any future 'B teams in the League' proposal.
What are they going to measure the potential success on? The EFL trophy. That's the only example they will have to predict any success/failure.
If nobody turns up and it hits the pockets of the football clubs for a maximum two games of the season, do people not think that would have some influence in any future vote? 'In the Football League we made £x through ticket sales, but in the EFL trophy we made much less.'
If you can't see how attending the B team games makes it more likely that we'll be playing them on Saturday afternoons in the future, then you need to quickly.
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Post by tommym9 on Aug 5, 2016 11:23:17 GMT
If anyone is worried about the club missing out on revenue you could always donate to the FFSC or buy an extra pasty and pint at a game as others have suggested.
The club will be fined if we send out a weakened team, so sending out the youth isn't really an option!
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Post by CrispPusher on Aug 5, 2016 12:17:09 GMT
The loss of 4 competitive home fixtures a season would have a massive financial effect on not only the clubs with few season ticket holders and small attendances, many of whom struggle to make ends meet as it is, but also clubs like ours and the surrounding businesses that cater to their supporters. The majority of Football League clubs wouldn't be naive enough to vote for it anyway, without considerable bullying/bribing from the Premier League, imo so it's a bit of a non-issue currently. With regards to the joke of playing the youth side of a club only one division above; I'll just buy an extra pint and pasty at a real game as like most people, I have much better ways to spend my free time than watching reserve football. They were naive enough to vote for premier league u21s and look what we actually got. True, however many have stated their regret already! The Premier League clubs that turned it down may have done us all a huge favour, hopefully the whole fiasco will be put to bed at the end of this trial season; although whilst I'm thinking positive we (or our youth team) won't be playing in the competition next season .
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Post by bs10er on Aug 5, 2016 13:21:23 GMT
What quantifies success though and does it matter if they are adamant to get B Teams in the league as they will make it happen. If 3000 turned up for Yeovil and only 300 for Reading.i would suggest that is as clear a message of what people want to see as opposed to 300 for both And then the FL will say there was an average attendance of 1,650. Easy enough to understand? As to what quantifies success I don't believe the FL have been so stupid as to state this upfront so they'll be free to look at the actual figures then present them in the best possible light, as I did in my first sentence. And let's not forget they sold this as being Premier league u21s and we've ended up with Championship u23s so it's not as if they haven't got form for moving the goal posts already is it? But you carry on supporting them. I was just going to miss the Reading game,but after reading,may not bother with any of them.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 5, 2016 13:59:48 GMT
If anyone is worried about the club missing out on revenue you could always donate to the FFSC or buy an extra pasty and pint at a game as others have suggested. The club will be fined if we send out a weakened team, so sending out the youth isn't really an option!
What about if we sent out the regular subs and the rest from the youth team? Surely as long as the majority are part of the first team squad we wont be breaking any rules.
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